# 3 Reason why the " palestinian state" is DOA

[Beelzebub]

No one should be allowed to do mass murder Phoney. Where did you get that idea?

Well, no. The problem stems from mass immigration and armed invasion of Palestine by a selfish group of Europeans with an overinflated appreciation of their own deservedness.

If you get any mass influx of people to an area which tries to deprive the natives of their land, possessions, freedom and lives, you will cause ... uh ... a little friction.

Religion really has very little to do with it, apart from being Team Badge for the simple minded.
In reality, religion does not determine which side people think is right on any given issue or sub-issue, or wrong.

Which very adequately illustrates that the issue is not one of religion.
It is about territory and power. And theft.

 

[proudveteran06]

The WB is going to have to be Jewish, and the Palestinians are going to have move east of the WB. It is the only way the Jews can protect their homeland.

Well done on your honesty, with your proposal there Jake.
Shame on you, for your buy-in to unjust land theft and annexation.
What's it like living with no desire for Justice Jake?

You lost. Get over it.

The Arabs should have thought about " justice" before the 67 War. If they had won your perception of " justice" would have been quite different, you hypocrite.

 

[proudveteran06]

Do you believe that the Palestinian people have no legitimate grievances?

Not since they attacked Israel in 1948 after being given the chance to be equal partners.

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

Slight difference between Japan, Germany, and the Arabs . Japan and Germany hasn't started 5 Wars with us. Get it? Of course not.I will be concerned about the " Rights of Palestinians" when they recognize our right to exist and live as a predominently Jewish Nation .

 

[Phoenall]

Then get the **** out of the WB all of it.

The WB is going to have to be Jewish, and the Palestinians are going to have move east of the WB. It is the only way the Jews can protect their homeland.

Well done on your honesty, with your proposal there Jake.
Shame on you, for your buy-in to unjust land theft and annexation.
What's it like living with no desire for Justice Jake?

That's rich coming from a muslim who have stolen more land since Israel's rebirth than any other nation. So how do you justify the muslim unjust land theft and annexation, how can you live with yourself and your hypocrisy concerning Justice ..........

 

[toastman]

Do you believe that the Palestinian people have no legitimate grievances?

Not since they attacked Israel in 1948 after being given the chance to be equal partners.

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

First of all, anyone who follows the conflict knows that when it cones to propaganda, no one does it better than the Palestinians
Second, no one cares what a Holocaust denying scumbag like yourself thinks about Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

Well done on your honesty, with your proposal there Jake.
Shame on you, for your buy-in to unjust land theft and annexation.
What's it like living with no desire for Justice Jake?

You lost. Get over it.

Well, no.
There are millions of Palestinians who have not been robbed of their homes and properties yet. Nor their lives.

How is it that you want them to be robbed of these things?
Do you hate rule of law, as well as Justice?
If they should be robbed, dispossessed and murdered , should you be too?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then we said "Never again" and gave the Jews a Homeland, and said "Build it on Palestinian bones."
Some Jews protested. Some said: "Hell, yeah!" and called themselves "Zionists."
Some Christians also wanted to be Zionists, because it is STRONG. "Never Again." Remember. "Hell yeah!" for the Zionists. Never A gain.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

How dare you when you are defending muslim land theft, muslim barbarity, muslim atrocities, muslim violence, muslim terrorism, muslim disregard for law, muslim disregard for justice and above all else muslim world domination.
Would those Palestinian bones be the bones of mass murdered Jews and Christians at the hands of psychopathic muslims who followed the commands of their false prophet and moon god's.

 

[Phoenall]

Do you believe that the Palestinian people have no legitimate grievances?

Not since they attacked Israel in 1948 after being given the chance to be equal partners.

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

Why should I look up the ANTI SEMITIC extremist Jew site when I already know what they are saying. Were is the JUSTICE for the many millions of Jews mass murdered by the muslims since Mohamed invented islam ?

By the way the Japanese and Germans both sat down and negotiated a peace deal, and were the stronger for it. Both went on to be world superpowers and to become world leaders in INDUSTRY and PEACE. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated to bring peace and economic stability ?

 

[Beelzebub]

You lost. Get over it.

Well, no.
There are millions of Palestinians who have not been robbed of their homes and properties yet. Nor their lives.

How is it that you want them to be robbed of these things?
Do you hate rule of law, as well as Justice?
If they should be robbed, dispossessed and murdered , should you be too?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then we said "Never again" and gave the Jews a Homeland, and said "Build it on Palestinian bones."
Some Jews protested. Some said: "Hell, yeah!" and called themselves "Zionists."
Some Christians also wanted to be Zionists, because it is STRONG. "Never Again." Remember. "Hell yeah!" for the Zionists. Never A gain.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

How dare you when you are defending muslim land theft, muslim barbarity, muslim atrocities, muslim violence, muslim terrorism, muslim disregard for law, muslim disregard for justice and above all else muslim world domination.
Would those Palestinian bones be the bones of mass murdered Jews and Christians at the hands of psychopathic muslims who followed the commands of their false prophet and moon god's.

You seem to be becoming unhinged Phoney.

Now, calm down and try to be specific over what I have said that you disagree with, and a brief explanation of your, ahem, logic.

 

[montelatici]

Do you believe that the Palestinian people have no legitimate grievances?

Not since they attacked Israel in 1948 after being given the chance to be equal partners.

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

Surrounding states attempted to stop the European Jews from destroying the Christian and Muslim villages and ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims from within and around the Jewish part of the partition as per the Jewish Plan Dalet which called for the expulsion of all non-Jews. Had the surrounding states not intervened to try to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing all the non-Jews, the few Christians and Muslims that were not expelled (their offspring are the current Israeli Arabs) would have also been murdered or expelled by the Jews.


""..... a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948".......At least 55% of the total of the (non-Jewish, ed.) exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population."


The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

"The Palestinian Christian Population greatly decreased from 1948 to 1967. Most fled or were expelled during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War."

Palestinian Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Beelzebub]

By the way the Japanese and Germans both sat down and negotiated a peace deal, and were the stronger for it. Both went on to be world superpowers and to become world leaders in INDUSTRY and PEACE.

No. You misunderstand what the situation was Phoney.

Germany and Japan signed the document of surrender, and the terms were dictated by the Allies, not 'negotiated'.

However, your point is noted.
We will look forward to the future, with Palestine as a World Power.
The ancient Phoneticians would be proud.

 

[toastman]

Not since they attacked Israel in 1948 after being given the chance to be equal partners.

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

Surrounding states attempted to stop the European Jews from destroying the Christian and Muslim villages and ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims from within and around the Jewish part of the partition as per the Jewish Plan Dalet which called for the expulsion of all non-Jews. Had the surrounding states not intervened to try to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing all the non-Jews, the few Christians and Muslims that were not expelled (their offspring are the current Israeli Arabs) would have also been murdered or expelled by the Jews.


""..... a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948".......At least 55% of the total of the (non-Jewish, ed.) exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population."


The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

"The Palestinian Christian Population greatly decreased from 1948 to 1967. Most fled or were expelled during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War."

Palestinian Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can make any excuse you want, but those 5 Arab states attacked Israel and not the other way around. Not to mention that the war they started made the situation for the Palestinians a hell of a log worse.

They went in to attack and destroy Israel, no matter how many excuses you make for them.

 

[Beelzebub]

They did.
I wouldn't debate that point.

However Israel is an evil state, doing evil things. You can understand their desire to lance the boil.

 

[Phoenall]

No one should be allowed to do mass murder Phoney. Where did you get that idea?

Well, no. The problem stems from mass immigration and armed invasion of Palestine by a selfish group of Europeans with an overinflated appreciation of their own deservedness.

If you get any mass influx of people to an area which tries to deprive the natives of their land, possessions, freedom and lives, you will cause ... uh ... a little friction.

Religion really has very little to do with it, apart from being Team Badge for the simple minded.
In reality, religion does not determine which side people think is right on any given issue or sub-issue, or wrong.

Which very adequately illustrates that the issue is not one of religion.
It is about territory and power. And theft.

From the Koran and hadiths, then from hearing the imams and clerics preaching such filth in 90% of the mosques in my country. Then watching the violent protests were muslims are heard calling for the murder of non muslims so that islam can dominate.

What about the mass migration of a psychotic religion into palestine because they were fed BLOOD LIBELS by an ISLAMONAZI who preached the death of all Jews.

The influx of Jews was agreed with the arab leaders, and the legal owners of the land invited them to come so how was it a mass armed invasion. Just another ISLANONAZI BLOOD LIBEL.

Which happened when the illegal arab muslims migrants came and stole the Jews property using force of arms and numbers. So how do you expect the Jews to act and react when they have the chance to retaliate to 1400 years of violence and mass murders.

When it is a religious command to a semi literate people already indoctrinated and brainwashed into violence then it has a lot to do with it. Just take the mass murders of Jews in Hebron after Hussieni issued a BLOOD LIBEL that the Jews were trying to take the Islamic holy places. That is how much religion matters to the Palestinians.

The muslims don't understand right or wrong in the first place, it has been bred out of them. All they know is violence, rape, murder, bloodlust and hate.

If the muslims did not have a command from their moon gods giving them the whole of the world as theirs then they would not want the power and land.

While they are engaging in violence and terrorism then the world will never defend their actions, and Israel will keep on defending its citizens with aggression. So you will have to get used to the death of Palestinians engaging in attacks on Israel.

 

[Beelzebub]

The muslims don't understand right or wrong in the first place, it has been bred out of them. All they know is violence, rape, murder, bloodlust and hate.

Wow!
Phoenall...

You are full of hate and anger, and thoughts of Righteous Violence, and then come out with this, implying that Muslims are a lesser breed, or maybe a sub species.

Are you sure you haven't read and absorbed too much Nazi doctrine?
The dehumanising of a section of humanity was core to their thinking too.

 

[proudveteran06]

They did.
I wouldn't debate that point.

However Israel is an evil state, doing evil things. You can understand their desire to lance the boil.

I agree. It's " evil" of them to want to exist. It's " evil" of them to be a primarily Jewish State along a NJA or No Israelis Allowed State. Typical Racist Pro Palestinian Mentality.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

Surrounding states attempted to stop the European Jews from destroying the Christian and Muslim villages and ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims from within and around the Jewish part of the partition as per the Jewish Plan Dalet which called for the expulsion of all non-Jews. Had the surrounding states not intervened to try to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing all the non-Jews, the few Christians and Muslims that were not expelled (their offspring are the current Israeli Arabs) would have also been murdered or expelled by the Jews.


""..... a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948".......At least 55% of the total of the (non-Jewish, ed.) exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population."


The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

"The Palestinian Christian Population greatly decreased from 1948 to 1967. Most fled or were expelled during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War."

Palestinian Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can make any excuse you want, but those 5 Arab states attacked Israel and not the other way around. Not to mention that the war they started made the situation for the Palestinians a hell of a log worse.

They went in to attack and destroy Israel, no matter how many excuses you make for them.

Do you have any proof of that?

 

[montelatici]

No one should be allowed to do mass murder Phoney. Where did you get that idea?

Well, no. The problem stems from mass immigration and armed invasion of Palestine by a selfish group of Europeans with an overinflated appreciation of their own deservedness.

If you get any mass influx of people to an area which tries to deprive the natives of their land, possessions, freedom and lives, you will cause ... uh ... a little friction.

Religion really has very little to do with it, apart from being Team Badge for the simple minded.
In reality, religion does not determine which side people think is right on any given issue or sub-issue, or wrong.

Which very adequately illustrates that the issue is not one of religion.
It is about territory and power. And theft.

From the Koran and hadiths, then from hearing the imams and clerics preaching such filth in 90% of the mosques in my country. Then watching the violent protests were muslims are heard calling for the murder of non muslims so that islam can dominate.

What about the mass migration of a psychotic religion into palestine because they were fed BLOOD LIBELS by an ISLAMONAZI who preached the death of all Jews.

The influx of Jews was agreed with the arab leaders, and the legal owners of the land invited them to come so how was it a mass armed invasion. Just another ISLANONAZI BLOOD LIBEL.

Which happened when the illegal arab muslims migrants came and stole the Jews property using force of arms and numbers. So how do you expect the Jews to act and react when they have the chance to retaliate to 1400 years of violence and mass murders.

When it is a religious command to a semi literate people already indoctrinated and brainwashed into violence then it has a lot to do with it. Just take the mass murders of Jews in Hebron after Hussieni issued a BLOOD LIBEL that the Jews were trying to take the Islamic holy places. That is how much religion matters to the Palestinians.

The muslims don't understand right or wrong in the first place, it has been bred out of them. All they know is violence, rape, murder, bloodlust and hate.

If the muslims did not have a command from their moon gods giving them the whole of the world as theirs then they would not want the power and land.

While they are engaging in violence and terrorism then the world will never defend their actions, and Israel will keep on defending its citizens with aggression. So you will have to get used to the death of Palestinians engaging in attacks on Israel.

Get a grip Phony or it will end up like before.

 

[montelatici]

I see. By that notion we should never have any relations with Japan or Germany.

Look up Jews for Justice and get an unbiased rundown of the issue. The Israeli Lobby has been feeding the propaganda machine for 70 plus years.

Surrounding states attempted to stop the European Jews from destroying the Christian and Muslim villages and ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims from within and around the Jewish part of the partition as per the Jewish Plan Dalet which called for the expulsion of all non-Jews. Had the surrounding states not intervened to try to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing all the non-Jews, the few Christians and Muslims that were not expelled (their offspring are the current Israeli Arabs) would have also been murdered or expelled by the Jews.


""..... a report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948".......At least 55% of the total of the (non-Jewish, ed.) exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population."


The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

"The Palestinian Christian Population greatly decreased from 1948 to 1967. Most fled or were expelled during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War."

Palestinian Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can make any excuse you want, but those 5 Arab states attacked Israel and not the other way around. Not to mention that the war they started made the situation for the Palestinians a hell of a log worse.

They went in to attack and destroy Israel, no matter how many excuses you make for them.

No, as has been now proven through the opening of previously classified documents/recordings. The surrounding states sent military to attempt to prevent the slaughter and ethnic cleansing of Christians and Muslims by the Jews who were implementing Plan Dalet.

 

[member]

"It's going to happen sooner or later, in the land(s) they occupy Jews will be the minority in only
a few decades and any claim to democracy means it's dissolution as the Jewish state."

oho, sounds like:


"THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD"

bye, bye jewish state ? then hello to the usual 3rd-world, backward, lawless, terrorist-ties, islamic hell hole.....


....we get a *sweet* tooth (after mayhem and death) "Palestine"

 

[Phoenall]

The muslims don't understand right or wrong in the first place, it has been bred out of them. All they know is violence, rape, murder, bloodlust and hate.

Wow!
Phoenall...

You are full of hate and anger, and thoughts of Righteous Violence, and then come out with this, implying that Muslims are a lesser breed, or maybe a sub species.

Are you sure you haven't read and absorbed too much Nazi doctrine?
The dehumanising of a section of humanity was core to their thinking too.

I have studied islam because of what I saw first hand one Christmas. How a group could do that in the name of their religion is beyond my understanding. The more I looked the more I realised that islam had brainwashed the muslims into blindly following their religion as interpreted by the ruling clerics and imams. Over time they were kept illiterate so they could never rise above their station, and were forced into learning the Koran line by line. This meant they could not string it all together ands understand its meaning. You can place as many words as you like in my mouth it will not silence the truth that is unpalatable to muslims the world over. How can a father stand their dispassionately as his wife and children burn to death before his eyes. Then show his anger and violent side when someone attempts to rescue them because they have insulted him by placing their hands on his wife and children. The only Nazi doctrine I have read has been that of the ISLAMNAZIS called the Koran and hadiths that spell out islam for everyone to see how vile and evil the rape death cult really is. They are fed on a mixture of BLOOD LIBELS, rape, murder, violence and gods forgiveness for their atrocities. They have no concept of right or wrong because they leave everything to god INSH ALLAH as they say