30,000 dead in just 13 days.

[Marion Morrison]

What in the hell does Missouri lead in other than hayfields?

Opening our economy apparently. You seem content to hide out indefinitely...so we'll blaze the trail for ya...Show You how it's done...and if we're really,
really lucky...we'll steal Telsa from ya in the process.

UPDATED: Joplin chamber pitches city to Tesla

Joplin has offered a $1 billion incentive package to bring to town a Tesla electric vehicle manufacturing plant that could employ up to 7,000 people.

www.joplinglobe.com

All yall going to do is start leading the nation in infections and deaths...well thats if you had enough people living there to do it.

Time will tell...but I'm pretty confident we'll come out smelling like a rose.

This entire thread has little to do with safety and much to do with power...hence the severe partisan divide. Since no one is going to stop us...the rest of the Midwest will follow. Then you'll have little choice but to open your economies or allow us to gobble up the customers your businesses rely on...so the argument is essentially over.

You sound just like Trump did when he said there was no problem. Only in America is fighting the pandemic considered a partisan discussion and a power divide.

Trump in TV now declaring this whole thing is over, while 750,000 Americans have now become ill and 40,000 have now died. At the current rate of death, that'll be more than 50,000 by this time next week.

Canuck sez "Trudeau is my prime minister", Canuck Canuck?

Your best bet is to focus on what hes doing, gf. Seriously

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I heard Trump has no authority to close, or open anything. That’s on the governors.

Trump did have the authority to institute TRAVEL BANS, TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, CLOSING BORDERS, and ISOLATION OF ANYONE STILL ALLOWED TO ENTER THE COUNTRY under special circumstances. But Trump only instituted on travel ban on China which was useless given that pathogen is spreading worldwide and penetration into the United States can come from ANY COUNTRY!

Not true. Get your shit together before it gets your ass beaten like every other day on this forum, dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I heard Trump has no authority to close, or open anything. That’s on the governors.

Trump did have the authority to institute TRAVEL BANS, TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, CLOSING BORDERS, and ISOLATION OF ANYONE STILL ALLOWED TO ENTER THE COUNTRY under special circumstances. But Trump only instituted on travel ban on China which was useless given that pathogen is spreading worldwide and penetration into the United States can come from ANY COUNTRY!

And you fuckwits said he was overreacting.

I recall some people saying it was racist to just ban travel from China and in a sense it was, because the pathogen can make it into the United States from any country.

If Trump had made the United States great, he should have been ahead of TAIWAN in fighting this pathogen!

Again, the failure of TRUMP can be best described by this statistic: only 6 dead in TAIWAN, but 40,265 dead in the United States.

The thing is that even after he put the restriction in place 40K people still came over from China, some from Wuhan, and landed all over the country.

In TAIWAN, it did not matter where you were from, if you were a citizen etc. You were not let in. If you were able to get a way in, eventually, you were held in quarantine for up to 25 days. TAIWAN treated anyone coming into the country as potentially carrying the pathogen and at risk for killing other people in TAIWAN. TAIWAN's EARLY and strict measures saved lives. Only 420 infections and 6 deaths.

Had Trump done anything close to what you libtards say he should have done, we would have had another health crisis of people with exploding heads.

 

[gipper]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

so should we let ewe decide when to open?

Yes. And you idiots need to sit down, shut up, and let us elect the next president too. That way we can fix all the shit your morons fucked up.

Again

Elect the next President too?

You didn't elect the last one, Window Licker.

NO, Vladimir manipulated you morons into doing it for him.

There it is again, Russia Russia Russia. You probably believe Epstein committed suicide and Seth Rich got killed in a robbery.

How come you always think there’s lying and corruption in the U.S., but you believe every other country is pure as snow?

I don’t know.

That’s not good enough. You have nothing but kind words for the tyrannical governments of Iran, Russia, China, etc., but are always harsh in your condemnation of the United States, even though here you’re granted freedoms you wouldn’t be granted in those other countries. What’s the source of your extreme anti American bias?

Yes I know. You want me executed. Nazi fuck!

 

[Pogo]

View attachment 325547

How the hell old is this chart? January? These numbers bear no relation to reality.

Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop Deaths/ 1M pop Total Tests Tests/ 1M pop World 2,406,900 +1,129 165,056 +47 617,004 1,624,840 54,218 309 21.2 USA 763,832 40,553 71,003 652,276 13,566 2,308 123 3,861,549 11,666 Spain 198,674 20,453 77,357 100,864 7,371 4,249 437 930,230 19,896 Italy 178,972 23,660 47,055 108,257 2,635 2,960 391 1,356,541 22,436 France 152,894 19,718 36,578 96,598 5,744 2,342 302 463,662 7,103 Germany 145,742 4,642 88,000 53,100 2,889 1,739 55 1,728,357 20,629 UK 120,067 16,060 N/A 103,663 1,559 1,769 237 482,063 7,101 Turkey 86,306 2,017 11,976 72,313 1,922 1,023 24 634,277 7,521 China 82,747 +12 4,632 77,084 1,031 81 57 3 Iran 82,211 5,118 57,023 20,070 3,456 979 61 341,662 4,068 Russia 42,853 361 3,291 39,201 8 294 2 1,940,000 13,294 Brazil 38,654 2,462 14,026 22,166 6,634 182 12 62,985 296 Belgium 38,496 5,683 8,757 24,056 1,081 3,322 490 153,778 13,269 Canada 35,056 1,587 11,843 21,626 557 929 42 536,062 14,203 Netherlands 32,655 3,684 250 28,721 1,176 1,906 215 154,911 9,041 Switzerland 27,740 1,393 17,800 8,547 386 3,205 161 221,263 25,566

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Taiwan is one small Island versus the U.S. that is fifty States not including territories like Guam and Puerto Rico...

It is easier to control points of entry on a small Island like Taiwan than it is for the U.S. ...

Controlling like Taiwan would mean the U.S. Government would have to override the Constitution and implement martial law which is not happening.

So let me make it clear Taiwan is a small Island with a different style of Government, so yes they will control it better than the U.S. and only a fool would compare the two!

 

[Missourian]

View attachment 325547

How the hell old is this chart? January? These numbers bear no relation to reality.

Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop Deaths/ 1M pop Total Tests Tests/ 1M pop World 2,406,900 +1,129 165,056 +47 617,004 1,624,840 54,218 309 21.2 USA 763,832 40,553 71,003 652,276 13,566 2,308 123 3,861,549 11,666 Spain 198,674 20,453 77,357 100,864 7,371 4,249 437 930,230 19,896 Italy 178,972 23,660 47,055 108,257 2,635 2,960 391 1,356,541 22,436 France 152,894 19,718 36,578 96,598 5,744 2,342 302 463,662 7,103 Germany 145,742 4,642 88,000 53,100 2,889 1,739 55 1,728,357 20,629 UK 120,067 16,060 N/A 103,663 1,559 1,769 237 482,063 7,101 Turkey 86,306 2,017 11,976 72,313 1,922 1,023 24 634,277 7,521 China 82,747 +12 4,632 77,084 1,031 81 57 3 Iran 82,211 5,118 57,023 20,070 3,456 979 61 341,662 4,068 Russia 42,853 361 3,291 39,201 8 294 2 1,940,000 13,294 Brazil 38,654 2,462 14,026 22,166 6,634 182 12 62,985 296 Belgium 38,496 5,683 8,757 24,056 1,081 3,322 490 153,778 13,269 Canada 35,056 1,587 11,843 21,626 557 929 42 536,062 14,203 Netherlands 32,655 3,684 250 28,721 1,176 1,906 215 154,911 9,041 Switzerland 27,740 1,393 17,800 8,547 386 3,205 161 221,263 25,566

It's deaths per capita. It's from like yesterday.

 

[Missourian]

Pogo from the 18th...yesterday...

Trump touts U.S. wins against coronavirus, lower per capita death rate than in Europe

President Trump on Saturday heralded gains made against the coronavirus pandemic and the relatively low mortality rate in the U.S. compared to other hard-hit countries.

m.washingtontimes.com

 

[Asclepias]

You sound just like Trump did when he said there was no problem. Only in America is fighting the pandemic considered a partisan discussion and a power divide.

Trump in TV now declaring this whole thing is over, while 750,000 Americans have now become ill and 40,000 have now died. At the current rate of death, that'll be more than 50,000 by this time next week.

I can only call 'em as I see 'em.

We are a country of over 360 MILLION. We cannot destroy our economy. The suffering that calamity would cause would make the last month look like a walk in the park. Dems can only see to the next election. Luckily for us Trump is still playing 3D chess.

He got the left to insist...no...demand that Trump didn't have the power to open the economy...so who has that power?

I'll give you a hint...in my state it's a Republican named Mike Parsons and two groups with a Republican Super Majority. How do you think that's going to work out? And who can stop us? Nobody. Then it's as simple as falling dominoes.

Thats the problem. Drumpf has his finger up his ass playing games instead of listening to people 100X smarter than he is. Drumpfs a transparent dumbass. He punked out on implementing an advisory for a national shutdown and now he wants to claim leadership for opening the economy back up. Only a fool would be tricked by that ruse. He didnt have the power to order a national shutdown nor does he have the power to order a reopening. Thats why he backpedaled after making that ridiculous ass statement about him having the authority. Looks to me only Drumpfbots actually believe and celebrate his partisan antics at a time of national emergency.

 

[Vandalshandle]

It’s gonna kill some sick and elderly people but otherwise just a handful and you don’t shut down a Nation trying to prevent the deaths of people who are within weeks or a month from being deceased anyway

I usually don't put assholes on "ignore" who have not repeatedly shown that they are totally clueless sociopaths with no compassion whatsoever, but I will make an exception occasionally for a new kid who shows no hope of social redemption, like you.

 

[Missourian]

You sound just like Trump did when he said there was no problem. Only in America is fighting the pandemic considered a partisan discussion and a power divide.

Trump in TV now declaring this whole thing is over, while 750,000 Americans have now become ill and 40,000 have now died. At the current rate of death, that'll be more than 50,000 by this time next week.

I can only call 'em as I see 'em.

We are a country of over 360 MILLION. We cannot destroy our economy. The suffering that calamity would cause would make the last month look like a walk in the park. Dems can only see to the next election. Luckily for us Trump is still playing 3D chess.

He got the left to insist...no...demand that Trump didn't have the power to open the economy...so who has that power?

I'll give you a hint...in my state it's a Republican named Mike Parsons and two groups with a Republican Super Majority. How do you think that's going to work out? And who can stop us? Nobody. Then it's as simple as falling dominoes.

Thats the problem. Drumpf has his finger up his ass playing games instead of listening to people 100X smarter than he is. Drumpfs a transparent dumbass. He punked out on implementing an advisory for a national shutdown and now he wants to claim leadership for opening the economy back up. Only a fool would be tricked by that ruse. He didnt have the power to order a national shutdown nor does he have the power to order a reopening. Thats why he backpedaled after making that ridiculous as statement about him having the authority. Looks to me only Drumpfbots actually believe and celebrate his partisan antics at a time of national emergency.

You're really in a pickle aren't ya. You're usually pretty calm cool and collected...until you realize you are losing...then you get angry and insulting. It's your tell.

But it is commendable that you recognise the battle is lost...you probably have a good idea how rare that is.

 

[Asclepias]

You sound just like Trump did when he said there was no problem. Only in America is fighting the pandemic considered a partisan discussion and a power divide.

Trump in TV now declaring this whole thing is over, while 750,000 Americans have now become ill and 40,000 have now died. At the current rate of death, that'll be more than 50,000 by this time next week.

I can only call 'em as I see 'em.

We are a country of over 360 MILLION. We cannot destroy our economy. The suffering that calamity would cause would make the last month look like a walk in the park. Dems can only see to the next election. Luckily for us Trump is still playing 3D chess.

He got the left to insist...no...demand that Trump didn't have the power to open the economy...so who has that power?

I'll give you a hint...in my state it's a Republican named Mike Parsons and two groups with a Republican Super Majority. How do you think that's going to work out? And who can stop us? Nobody. Then it's as simple as falling dominoes.

Thats the problem. Drumpf has his finger up his ass playing games instead of listening to people 100X smarter than he is. Drumpfs a transparent dumbass. He punked out on implementing an advisory for a national shutdown and now he wants to claim leadership for opening the economy back up. Only a fool would be tricked by that ruse. He didnt have the power to order a national shutdown nor does he have the power to order a reopening. Thats why he backpedaled after making that ridiculous as statement about him having the authority. Looks to me only Drumpfbots actually believe and celebrate his partisan antics at a time of national emergency.

You're really in a pickle aren't ya. You're usually pretty calm cool and collected...until you realize you are losing...then you get angry and insulting. It's your tell.

But it is commendable that you recognise the battle is lost...you probably have a good idea how rare that is.

When did I insult you? Am I pissed at Drumpf getting all these people killed? Of course I am.

 

[Missourian]

When did I insult you? Am I pissed at Drumpf getting all these people killed? Of course I am.

I just calls 'em as I sees 'em.

 

[Pogo]

View attachment 325547

How the hell old is this chart? January? These numbers bear no relation to reality.

Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop Deaths/ 1M pop Total Tests Tests/ 1M pop World 2,406,900 +1,129 165,056 +47 617,004 1,624,840 54,218 309 21.2 USA 763,832 40,553 71,003 652,276 13,566 2,308 123 3,861,549 11,666 Spain 198,674 20,453 77,357 100,864 7,371 4,249 437 930,230 19,896 Italy 178,972 23,660 47,055 108,257 2,635 2,960 391 1,356,541 22,436 France 152,894 19,718 36,578 96,598 5,744 2,342 302 463,662 7,103 Germany 145,742 4,642 88,000 53,100 2,889 1,739 55 1,728,357 20,629 UK 120,067 16,060 N/A 103,663 1,559 1,769 237 482,063 7,101 Turkey 86,306 2,017 11,976 72,313 1,922 1,023 24 634,277 7,521 China 82,747 +12 4,632 77,084 1,031 81 57 3 Iran 82,211 5,118 57,023 20,070 3,456 979 61 341,662 4,068 Russia 42,853 361 3,291 39,201 8 294 2 1,940,000 13,294 Brazil 38,654 2,462 14,026 22,166 6,634 182 12 62,985 296 Belgium 38,496 5,683 8,757 24,056 1,081 3,322 490 153,778 13,269 Canada 35,056 1,587 11,843 21,626 557 929 42 536,062 14,203 Netherlands 32,655 3,684 250 28,721 1,176 1,906 215 154,911 9,041 Switzerland 27,740 1,393 17,800 8,547 386 3,205 161 221,263 25,566

It's deaths per capita. It's from like yesterday.

From what site?
Because compare with the chart I just posted. It's not even remotely close.

First two for example -- your chart shows Italy three times higher than Spain while the actual numbers show Spain exceeding Italy. Not possible.

Pogo from the 18th...yesterday...

Trump touts U.S. wins against coronavirus, lower per capita death rate than in Europe

President Trump on Saturday heralded gains made against the coronavirus pandemic and the relatively low mortality rate in the U.S. compared to other hard-hit countries.

m.washingtontimes.com

I don't see a chart on that page

Comparison with "Europe" is bogus. We've been shooting that canard all day. Europe has been dealing with it way longer than we have. Many have flattened their curves.

I might add that chart or no chart, this link goes to the Moonie Times.

 

[skye]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Hospitals get more $$$$$$ if the person died of COVID19..... to go no further and as an example.....New York reclassified 3000 deaths to COVID19 last week.... Am I being suspicious here????

 

[Missourian]

View attachment 325547

How the hell old is this chart? January? These numbers bear no relation to reality.

Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop Deaths/ 1M pop Total Tests Tests/ 1M pop World 2,406,900 +1,129 165,056 +47 617,004 1,624,840 54,218 309 21.2 USA 763,832 40,553 71,003 652,276 13,566 2,308 123 3,861,549 11,666 Spain 198,674 20,453 77,357 100,864 7,371 4,249 437 930,230 19,896 Italy 178,972 23,660 47,055 108,257 2,635 2,960 391 1,356,541 22,436 France 152,894 19,718 36,578 96,598 5,744 2,342 302 463,662 7,103 Germany 145,742 4,642 88,000 53,100 2,889 1,739 55 1,728,357 20,629 UK 120,067 16,060 N/A 103,663 1,559 1,769 237 482,063 7,101 Turkey 86,306 2,017 11,976 72,313 1,922 1,023 24 634,277 7,521 China 82,747 +12 4,632 77,084 1,031 81 57 3 Iran 82,211 5,118 57,023 20,070 3,456 979 61 341,662 4,068 Russia 42,853 361 3,291 39,201 8 294 2 1,940,000 13,294 Brazil 38,654 2,462 14,026 22,166 6,634 182 12 62,985 296 Belgium 38,496 5,683 8,757 24,056 1,081 3,322 490 153,778 13,269 Canada 35,056 1,587 11,843 21,626 557 929 42 536,062 14,203 Netherlands 32,655 3,684 250 28,721 1,176 1,906 215 154,911 9,041 Switzerland 27,740 1,393 17,800 8,547 386 3,205 161 221,263 25,566

It's deaths per capita. It's from like yesterday.

From what site?
Because compare with the chart I just posted. It's not even remotely close.

First two for example -- your chart shows Italy three times higher than Spain while the actual numbers show Spain exceeding Italy. Not possible.

Pogo from the 18th...yesterday...

Trump touts U.S. wins against coronavirus, lower per capita death rate than in Europe

President Trump on Saturday heralded gains made against the coronavirus pandemic and the relatively low mortality rate in the U.S. compared to other hard-hit countries.

m.washingtontimes.com

I don't see a chart on that page

Comparison with "Europe" is bogus. We've been shooting that canard all day. Europe has been dealing with it way longer than we have. Many have flattened their curves.

I might add that chart or no chart, this link goes to the Moonie Times.

Can't find that chart anymore...but here's the same story from another source...

Trump: US doing better than Europe when it comes to coronavirus death rates

President Trump pushed back on reports that have cast the United States as the world’s worst coronavirus hot spot — and pulled out the charts to prove it. “The United States has p…

nypost.com

Flattening the curve should lower mortality rates...not raise them.

 

[OldLady]

View attachment 325547

How the hell old is this chart? January? These numbers bear no relation to reality.

Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop Deaths/ 1M pop Total Tests Tests/ 1M pop World 2,406,900 +1,129 165,056 +47 617,004 1,624,840 54,218 309 21.2 USA 763,832 40,553 71,003 652,276 13,566 2,308 123 3,861,549 11,666 Spain 198,674 20,453 77,357 100,864 7,371 4,249 437 930,230 19,896 Italy 178,972 23,660 47,055 108,257 2,635 2,960 391 1,356,541 22,436 France 152,894 19,718 36,578 96,598 5,744 2,342 302 463,662 7,103 Germany 145,742 4,642 88,000 53,100 2,889 1,739 55 1,728,357 20,629 UK 120,067 16,060 N/A 103,663 1,559 1,769 237 482,063 7,101 Turkey 86,306 2,017 11,976 72,313 1,922 1,023 24 634,277 7,521 China 82,747 +12 4,632 77,084 1,031 81 57 3 Iran 82,211 5,118 57,023 20,070 3,456 979 61 341,662 4,068 Russia 42,853 361 3,291 39,201 8 294 2 1,940,000 13,294 Brazil 38,654 2,462 14,026 22,166 6,634 182 12 62,985 296 Belgium 38,496 5,683 8,757 24,056 1,081 3,322 490 153,778 13,269 Canada 35,056 1,587 11,843 21,626 557 929 42 536,062 14,203 Netherlands 32,655 3,684 250 28,721 1,176 1,906 215 154,911 9,041 Switzerland 27,740 1,393 17,800 8,547 386 3,205 161 221,263 25,566

It's deaths per capita. It's from like yesterday.

From what site?
Because compare with the chart I just posted. It's not even remotely close.

First two for example -- your chart shows Italy three times higher than Spain while the actual numbers show Spain exceeding Italy. Not possible.

Pogo from the 18th...yesterday...

Trump touts U.S. wins against coronavirus, lower per capita death rate than in Europe

President Trump on Saturday heralded gains made against the coronavirus pandemic and the relatively low mortality rate in the U.S. compared to other hard-hit countries.

m.washingtontimes.com

I don't see a chart on that page

Comparison with "Europe" is bogus. We've been shooting that canard all day. Europe has been dealing with it way longer than we have. Many have flattened their curves.

I might add that chart or no chart, this link goes to the Moonie Times.

Missourian was using out of date numbers earlier in a thread about opening up Florida, too. He needs a different site.

 

[Rocko]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

so should we let ewe decide when to open?

Yes. And you idiots need to sit down, shut up, and let us elect the next president too. That way we can fix all the shit your morons fucked up.

Again

Elect the next President too?

You didn't elect the last one, Window Licker.

NO, Vladimir manipulated you morons into doing it for him.

There it is again, Russia Russia Russia. You probably believe Epstein committed suicide and Seth Rich got killed in a robbery.

How come you always think there’s lying and corruption in the U.S., but you believe every other country is pure as snow?

I don’t know.

That’s not good enough. You have nothing but kind words for the tyrannical governments of Iran, Russia, China, etc., but are always harsh in your condemnation of the United States, even though here you’re granted freedoms you wouldn’t be granted in those other countries. What’s the source of your extreme anti American bias?

Yes I know. You want me executed. Nazi fuck!

You’re a paranoid delusional

 

[Pogo]

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How the hell old is this chart? January? These numbers bear no relation to reality.

Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop Deaths/ 1M pop Total Tests Tests/ 1M pop World 2,406,900 +1,129 165,056 +47 617,004 1,624,840 54,218 309 21.2 USA 763,832 40,553 71,003 652,276 13,566 2,308 123 3,861,549 11,666 Spain 198,674 20,453 77,357 100,864 7,371 4,249 437 930,230 19,896 Italy 178,972 23,660 47,055 108,257 2,635 2,960 391 1,356,541 22,436 France 152,894 19,718 36,578 96,598 5,744 2,342 302 463,662 7,103 Germany 145,742 4,642 88,000 53,100 2,889 1,739 55 1,728,357 20,629 UK 120,067 16,060 N/A 103,663 1,559 1,769 237 482,063 7,101 Turkey 86,306 2,017 11,976 72,313 1,922 1,023 24 634,277 7,521 China 82,747 +12 4,632 77,084 1,031 81 57 3 Iran 82,211 5,118 57,023 20,070 3,456 979 61 341,662 4,068 Russia 42,853 361 3,291 39,201 8 294 2 1,940,000 13,294 Brazil 38,654 2,462 14,026 22,166 6,634 182 12 62,985 296 Belgium 38,496 5,683 8,757 24,056 1,081 3,322 490 153,778 13,269 Canada 35,056 1,587 11,843 21,626 557 929 42 536,062 14,203 Netherlands 32,655 3,684 250 28,721 1,176 1,906 215 154,911 9,041 Switzerland 27,740 1,393 17,800 8,547 386 3,205 161 221,263 25,566

It's deaths per capita. It's from like yesterday.

From what site?
Because compare with the chart I just posted. It's not even remotely close.

First two for example -- your chart shows Italy three times higher than Spain while the actual numbers show Spain exceeding Italy. Not possible.

Pogo from the 18th...yesterday...

Trump touts U.S. wins against coronavirus, lower per capita death rate than in Europe

President Trump on Saturday heralded gains made against the coronavirus pandemic and the relatively low mortality rate in the U.S. compared to other hard-hit countries.

m.washingtontimes.com

I don't see a chart on that page

Comparison with "Europe" is bogus. We've been shooting that canard all day. Europe has been dealing with it way longer than we have. Many have flattened their curves.

I might add that chart or no chart, this link goes to the Moonie Times.

Can't find that chart anymore...but here's the same story from another source...

Trump: US doing better than Europe when it comes to coronavirus death rates

President Trump pushed back on reports that have cast the United States as the world’s worst coronavirus hot spot — and pulled out the charts to prove it. “The United States has p…

nypost.com

Flattening the curve should lower mortality rates...not raise them.

Still no chart, but obviously as I proved to you, that bar graph bore no resemblance to any kind of reality at all.

And yes, flattening the curve lowers infection rates and eventually mortality.

Couple I have handy:

Again, note the timeline. Iceland (in this case) got out in front of it early and tested comprehensively. They've tested at least ten times more than we have and there's the result.

And again your source on this second link is as unreliable as they come, and again he's FAILING to take TIME into account. Mortality rates are too early to settle but using the current numbers for Italy and Spain plus the US, 33% of Italy's cases that have resolved in either recovery or death, resolved in death. For Spain the level is 21%. For the US it's 36%. That again illustrates that Italy and Spain have had more time dealing with the virus, and hence more time for recoveries to run their course. ALL those figures will decline once ample time for recoveries happens, but to suggest we're somehow doing "better" than Europe just can't be supported.

 

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So Mr. Know I. All OP, what's your solution for the people that are losing everything because their jobs are closed down ?