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Given the SCOTUS is upholding lower court rulings that gay marriage is legal in 5 more states has anyone started a suicide watch for Silhouette?
Ah, but that was then and this is now. Times have changed. And so apparently has the demeanor of SCOTUS towards the individual voters of Utah. It acted to protect their rights to self-rule in the interim.
Their right to self-rule is unquestioned and can never be questioned unless Loving applies.
Which it hasn't yet to "gay marriage". Or if it has, granting Utah the stay is SCOTUS de facto overruling of that finding by a lower court in favor of self-rule.
Same-sex couples are marrying in at least six more states today, after the Supreme Court left in place lower courts' rulings against bans on gay marriage. But couples have been turned away in Kansas, one of several states that share federal jurisdiction with states where bans were lifted.
October 07, 2014 1:28 PM ET
State By State In Gay Marriage s New Landscape Glee Confusion And Resistance The Two-Way NPR
Utah AG drops same-sex marriage recognition appeal
SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah Attorney General’s Office is asking the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to dismiss it’s appeal of a lawsuit over recognition of same-sex marriages.
FOX 13 first reported on Tuesday morning that Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes was seeking to dismiss Evans v. Herbert, a lawsuit filed by the ACLU of Utah over state recognition of same-sex marriages performed in the state. By mid-day, they had filed with the federal appeals court in Denver.
“With this Court’s mandate in effect, Utah is constitutionally required to recognize the marriages of the same-sex couples who were plaintiffs in this action. Therefore, the State of Utah’s appeal of the district court’s order of preliminary injunction requiring such recognition, as the law stands today, is moot,” Utah Attorney General’s Federal Solicitor Parker Douglas wrote.
Utah AG drops same-sex marriage recognition appeal fox13now.com
Back to California now. Since that stay was granted in Utah, all 50 states voters have the right to appeal for clarity on whether or not their vote on defining marriage in their state counts as well. And that's a rhetorical question because you and I both know about the equal application of civil rights across the 50 states. No favoritism.
[/quote]So in short, SCOTUS' granting the stay to Utah is the same as them granting the stay in all 50 states because of the civil rights of voters. Those can NEVER be disenfranchised or given special bias state to state ...even for 5 minutes, 5 weeks, 5 months or 5 years...
Doesn't America have any guts? No to homosexual marriage. Hell NO. If you can't imaginably biology have babies, you don't need marriage. Why is this even an issue? Everyone has the same rights, period. marriage is about the children, not manipulation. But that is what gays are all about.
According to the CA constitution, complete with link, every voter in California, like Utah, on the question of gay marriage currently has the right to have that vote count and be enforceable law. This isn't a philosophy. It's in the CA constitution. Right there in black and white.The court decided, and you are unhappy.
We all realize that.
Your political philosophy is yours and not mandatory on anyone.
I specifically responded to what you said (that was incorrect BTW) about the California Constitution and the idea that when something is ruled unconstitutional it is still operative until it is removed through a future amenemdent.
You were wrong.
Doesn't America have any guts? No to homosexual marriage. Hell NO. If you can't imaginably biology have babies, you don't need marriage. Why is this even an issue? Everyone has the same rights, period. marriage is about the children, not manipulation. But that is what gays are all about.
Doesn't America have any guts? No to homosexual marriage. Hell NO. If you can't imaginably biology have babies, you don't need marriage. Why is this even an issue? Everyone has the same rights, period. marriage is about the children, not manipulation. But that is what gays are all about.
Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Going to be 39 states by the time Obama leaves office, possibly even more.
I was for same sex marriage while I was republican... this before I switched to libertarian. So eat shit libtard.Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Going to be 39 states by the time Obama leaves office, possibly even more.
I'm sticking to my prediction that eventually Republicans will be claiming it was their idea to legalize same sex marriage.
Their spin, I will further predict, will be that they were for legalizing it but they didn't think the courts were the way to do it...
...they will claim they had a better plan.
And Obama did nothing to help gays... other than saying he was for it.... and the SCOTUS who just voted not to hear these cases.. yeah it's run by a conservative justice and has more conservatives on it than libs. So eat that.Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Going to be 39 states by the time Obama leaves office, possibly even more.
Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Going to be 39 states by the time Obama leaves office, possibly even more.
I'm sticking to my prediction that eventually Republicans will be claiming it was their idea to legalize same sex marriage.
Their spin, I will further predict, will be that they were for legalizing it but they didn't think the courts were the way to do it...
...they will claim they had a better plan.
And Obama did nothing to help gays... other than saying he was for it.... and the SCOTUS who just voted not to hear these cases.. yeah it's run by a conservative justice and has more conservatives on it than libs. So eat that.Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Going to be 39 states by the time Obama leaves office, possibly even more.
Nope, the far right conservatives opposed marriage equality all the way.
10th Amendment.
Windsor was affirmed on the State having the purview of marriage, where the State honored it, the Federal government could not discriminate in the form of DOMA.
And Obama did nothing to help gays... other than saying he was for it.... and the SCOTUS who just voted not to hear these cases.. yeah it's run by a conservative justice and has more conservatives on it than libs. So eat that.Hey what happened to anti-gay bigots' argument that same sex marriage was only legal in a few states?
Oops.
Going to be 39 states by the time Obama leaves office, possibly even more.