81 years ago today

[Little-Acorn]

On Dec. 5, 1933, the state of Utah ratified the 21st amendment to the Constitution, giving the measure the 3/4 of the states needed to make it part of the Constitution, and repealing the 18th amendment (Prohibition of alcohol).

Thus ended the biggest liberal do-gooder attempt to use government to save U.S. citizens from themselves. Such attempts didn't resume until the passage of Social Security, years after the initial passage of Prohibition.

The only difference between the two programs was that the government acknowledged the Feds didn't have the authority to prohibit alcohol, so they passed the 18th amendment give themselves that authority. But to pass the equally-unconstitutional Social Security program, they simply lied and called it a "tax program", though it was far more than that. The charade of Social Security legality remains to this day.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

On Dec. 5, 1933, the state of Utah ratified the 21st amendment to the Constitution, giving the measure the 3/4 of the states needed to make it part of the Constitution, and repealing the 18th amendment (Prohibition of alcohol).

I'll drink to that.

And Social Security is perfectly legal, into came into being just like the SEC and FAA, and it cane be ended with the stroke of a pen so that should make you happy.

 

[frigidweirdo]

In the Senate Democrats voted 36 in favor to 12 not in favor, Republicans voted 29 in favor to 8 not in favor. Seems to be both sides support this as much as the other in the Senate.

In the House it was 146 Democrats in favor to 64 against and Republicans 137 to 62. Almost the same.

Connecticut and Rhode Island, two left wing states rejected it.

The first states to pass this were Mississippi, Virginia, Kentucky, etc, mainly right wing states voted first followed by left wing states, though not necessarily as concrete as this.

Liberal do-gooders huh? Republican Party seems to be full of them. Bush, apparently was Liberal do-gooder number one for 8 years while invading Iraq, if you believe those on one thread.

 

[mamooth]

There are still dry counties out there, the red spots. They're not in liberal areas.

 

[occupied]

No liberal had a damned thing to do with Prohibition, it was what passed for social conservatives in those days trying to save us from sin.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No liberal had a damned thing to do with Prohibition, it was what passed for social conservatives in those days trying to save us from sin.

Christian do-gooders. Might have been come liberals in the mix. Damn fascists.

 

[bripat9643]

On Dec. 5, 1933, the state of Utah ratified the 21st amendment to the Constitution, giving the measure the 3/4 of the states needed to make it part of the Constitution, and repealing the 18th amendment (Prohibition of alcohol).

I'll drink to that.

And Social Security is perfectly legal, into came into being just like the SEC and FAA, and it cane be ended with the stroke of a pen so that should make you happy.

Neither the SEC nor the FAA are constitutional.

 

[Nyvin]

The 21st amendment was not opposed by liberals, it was social conservatives (particularly in the south) that were against it. Hence the list of states that did not ratify the 21st:

1. Georgia
2. Kansas
3. Louisiana
4. Mississippi
5. Nebraska
6. North Dakota
7. Oklahoma
8. South Dakota
9. North Carolina
10. South Carolina

All southern, socially conservative states (and the Dakotas, who were also socially conservative)

 

[PaintMyHouse]

On Dec. 5, 1933, the state of Utah ratified the 21st amendment to the Constitution, giving the measure the 3/4 of the states needed to make it part of the Constitution, and repealing the 18th amendment (Prohibition of alcohol).

I'll drink to that.

And Social Security is perfectly legal, into came into being just like the SEC and FAA, and it cane be ended with the stroke of a pen so that should make you happy.

Neither the SEC nor the FAA are constitutional.

Yes idiot, they are. What is Constitutional is decided by the Supreme Court, not by a 230 year-old document.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The 21st amendment was not opposed by liberals, it was social conservatives (particularly in the south) that were against it. Hence the list of states that did not ratify the 21st:

1. Georgia
2. Kansas
3. Louisiana
4. Mississippi
5. Nebraska
6. North Dakota
7. Oklahoma
8. South Dakota
9. North Carolina
10. South Carolina

All southern, socially conservative states (and the Dakotas, who were also socially conservative)

They don't call it the fly-over for no reason.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

What is Constitutional is decided by the Supreme Court, not by a 230 year-old document.

How does one determine what is constitutional without referring to the Constitution itself?

 

[Little-Acorn]

No liberal had a damned thing to do with Prohibition, it was what passed for social conservatives in those days trying to save us from sin.

Nothing conservative about using government to force people who aren't violating your rights, to change their ways anyway. That's modern-liberal to the core.

They were liberal do-gooders, regardless of what they called themselves.

 

[bripat9643]

What is Constitutional is decided by the Supreme Court, not by a 230 year-old document.

How does one determine what is constitutional without referring to the Constitution itself?

PMH just admitted that, like all libturds, he doesn't care what the Constitution says. These are the same morons marching in the street because the cops supposedly violated some guy's constitutional rights.

 

[Nyvin]

No liberal had a damned thing to do with Prohibition, it was what passed for social conservatives in those days trying to save us from sin.

Nothing conservative about using government to force people who aren't violating your rights, to change their ways anyway. That's modern-liberal to the core.

They were liberal do-gooders, regardless of what they called themselves.

You mean like gay marriage bans??

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What is Constitutional is decided by the Supreme Court, not by a 230 year-old document.

How does one determine what is constitutional without referring to the Constitution itself?

We refer mostly to the spirit of it, that's all. Got it now.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

What is Constitutional is decided by the Supreme Court, not by a 230 year-old document.

How does one determine what is constitutional without referring to the Constitution itself?

PMH just admitted that, like all libturds, he doesn't care what the Constitution says. These are the same morons marching in the street because the cops supposedly violated some guy's constitutional rights.

Hey dumbshit, I care what is constitutional more than I care what is in the Constitution. It was written before man new that germs caused disease after all you fucking moron.

 

[daveman]

So, now that we've acknowledged that banning things because we don't like them simply doesn't work...

...perhaps one of the irrational gun-haters here can explain why banning firearms will work great.

 

[Kondor3]

It was a Big Government social engineering initiative.

Close enough to Liberal Do-Gooder for government work.

If the labeling was in-error, then, in light of the above, it's easy to see how the mistake was made.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So, now that we've acknowledged that banning things because we don't like them simply doesn't work...

...perhaps one of the irrational gun-haters here can explain why banning firearms will work great.

Since you mostly kill yourselves, and people close to you, we don't care that much, but when guns are illegal just having one, when you aren't in uniform, will be a death sentence. Works out just fine,

 

[daveman]

So, now that we've acknowledged that banning things because we don't like them simply doesn't work...

...perhaps one of the irrational gun-haters here can explain why banning firearms will work great.

Since you mostly kill yourselves, and people close to you, we don't care that much, but when guns are illegal just having one, when you aren't in uniform, will be a death sentence. Works out just fine,