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One gets tired of responding to the same old opinions. Please show us where there was molten steel. I'm certain there was plenty of aluminum and maybe lead. But steel? What happened to it? Who removed it without it being shown? Why did someone have to photoshop the glow from so called molten steel to make people believe it? Who determined it was steel?
One the people who reported molten metal were in no position to tell us what it was. Two it has been proven that at least one Photo of so called molten metal was photoshopped. Once you start to fake photos, you've lost all credibility.
And no I do not believe in this phantom group of unknown unseen leaders.
And there is no way in hell you will convince anyone of sane mind that only a few dozen people could have planed executed and covered up this massive operation.......
Are you some kind of expert at building demolition, or are you just talking out of your ass? You do know that there was work going on in those buildings 24/7 for better than 6 months prior to 9/11, right? You do know that it was "upgrading the wiring" for Internet, phones, etc., right?One the people who reported molten metal were in no position to tell us what it was. Two it has been proven that at least one Photo of so called molten metal was photoshopped. Once you start to fake photos, you've lost all credibility.
And no I do not believe in this phantom group of unknown unseen leaders.
And there is no way in hell you will convince anyone of sane mind that only a few dozen people could have planed executed and covered up this massive operation.......
The demo rigging alone at the WTC would have taken dozens of workers at least a dozen weeks per building...
You don't think union cards can be counterfeited?...and their work would have been noisy, dirty, noticed and challenged by the union workers who maintain the WTC. Unions are extremely protective of their turf and do not quietly allow others to get some.
Really? Like who?Add to that all those in positions of power who would have had to be involved at every decision making level, the intermediaries who would have been charged to carrying out the orders from above...
You're being ridiculous, Sayit. Ask the FBI about 'Able Danger', and what happens when agents don't 'toe the line'......our entire MS media, the FBI, the CIA, every independent investigator (pro and amateur) our Justice Dept, etc, etc, etc.
Frankly, to buy into this CT silliness one must abandon all rationality and some here have done exactly that.
PNAC Document:And please Don't try comparing this to Pearl Harbor.......
Page 51:Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing eventlike a new Pearl Harbor"
One the people who reported molten metal were in no position to tell us what it was. Two it has been proven that at least one Photo of so called molten metal was photoshopped. Once you start to fake photos, you've lost all credibility.
And no I do not believe in this phantom group of unknown unseen leaders.
And there is no way in hell you will convince anyone of sane mind that only a few dozen people could have planed executed and covered up this massive operation.......
The demo rigging alone at the WTC would have taken dozens of workers at least a dozen weeks per building and their work would have been noisy, dirty, noticed and challenged by the union workers who maintain the WTC. Unions are extremely protective of their turf and do not quietly allow others to get some. Add to that all those in positions of power who would have had to be involved at every decision making level, the intermediaries who would have been charged to carrying out the orders from above, our entire MS media, the FBI, the CIA, every independent investigator (pro and amateur) our Justice Dept, etc, etc, etc.
Frankly, to buy into this CT silliness one must abandon all rationality and some here have done exactly that.
One gets tired of responding to the same old opinions. Please show us where there was molten steel. I'm certain there was plenty of aluminum and maybe lead. But steel? What happened to it? Who removed it without it being shown? Why did someone have to photoshop the glow from so called molten steel to make people believe it? Who determined it was steel?
Listen to the statements of those who were there, Ollie.
Even Rudy Giuliani states in this video that the temperature was OVER 2,000 degrees WEEKS after the collapses.
Pay particular attention to the portion of the video dealing with the 'cross' @ 2:30...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3Ot1JxNdE]Molten Steel At World Trade Center Site/Ground Zero after 9/11. - YouTube[/ame]
One the people who reported molten metal were in no position to tell us what it was. Two it has been proven that at least one Photo of so called molten metal was photoshopped. Once you start to fake photos, you've lost all credibility.
And no I do not believe in this phantom group of unknown unseen leaders.
And there is no way in hell you will convince anyone of sane mind that only a few dozen people could have planed executed and covered up this massive operation.......
The demo rigging alone at the WTC would have taken dozens of workers at least a dozen weeks per building...
Are you some kind of expert at building demolition, or are you just talking out of your ass? You do know that there was work going on in those buildings 24/7 for better than 6 months prior to 9/11, right? You do know that it was "upgrading the wiring" for Internet, phones, etc., right? You don't think union cards can be counterfeited?
Work is always ongoing at large commercial buildings, Princess, and I do indeed know how much time and effort is involved in rigging even a 10 story building for demo; dozens of highly trained professionals, heavy power tools and torches and 12 weeks plus a lot of very dangerous, highly explosive materials. Rather than waste your time scouring the fetid bowels of the Internet searching for "proof" of your foil-hat CTs, try researching what it would take to do the shit you seem to believe takes a couple of Mexicans 15 minutes to accomplish.
Bent, twisted, crumpled, Might have been a piece cut after the fact, in the first 2 minutes nothing shown being melted..........
do you mean this:OK Ollie, I notice you didn't even respond to several of the points I made, so no cookie for you.
I don't care about a photoshopped picture, Ollie. What did I say about disinformation? I saw video ON THE NEWS showing the molten steel 6 weeks after the towers came down.
I doesn't matter if you believe in the Shadow Government, either. They believe in you, and you're behaving just the way they want.
another intentionally misinterpreted phrase...by a debunked think tank.PNAC Document:And please Don't try comparing this to Pearl Harbor.......
Page 51:Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing eventlike a new Pearl Harbor"
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Can't let a good crisis go to waste right?
One gets tired of responding to the same old opinions. Please show us where there was molten steel. I'm certain there was plenty of aluminum and maybe lead. But steel? What happened to it? Who removed it without it being shown? Why did someone have to photoshop the glow from so called molten steel to make people believe it? Who determined it was steel?
Listen to the statements of those who were there, Ollie.
Even Rudy Giuliani states in this video that the temperature was OVER 2,000 degrees WEEKS after the collapses.
Pay particular attention to the portion of the video dealing with the 'cross' @ 2:30...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3Ot1JxNdE]Molten Steel At World Trade Center Site/Ground Zero after 9/11. - YouTube[/ame]
This is exactly what I am talking about. Not one expert nothing but normal everyday people with their opinions. A picture of the "meteorite with rebar sticking all through the concrete, and yes rebar would have melted long before any steel that they claim made up part of the piece. And the cross? Sorry but it was not welded together during the collapse but during the construction.
You really need to check things out a little closer.....
I have read it and you are so wrong it's laughable...One the people who reported molten metal were in no position to tell us what it was. Two it has been proven that at least one Photo of so called molten metal was photoshopped. Once you start to fake photos, you've lost all credibility.
And no I do not believe in this phantom group of unknown unseen leaders.
And there is no way in hell you will convince anyone of sane mind that only a few dozen people could have planed executed and covered up this massive operation.......
The demo rigging alone at the WTC would have taken dozens of workers at least a dozen weeks per building and their work would have been noisy, dirty, noticed and challenged by the union workers who maintain the WTC. Unions are extremely protective of their turf and do not quietly allow others to get some. Add to that all those in positions of power who would have had to be involved at every decision making level, the intermediaries who would have been charged to carrying out the orders from above, our entire MS media, the FBI, the CIA, every independent investigator (pro and amateur) our Justice Dept, etc, etc, etc.
Frankly, to buy into this CT silliness one must abandon all rationality and some here have done exactly that.
you have no clue of the logistics involved..and the fact remains..NIST has no real explanation for the collapse..if you ever read the NIST report you will see they only investigate up collapse initiation(how the collapse began)
to avoid the need to explain the entire collapse sequence
The demo rigging alone at the WTC would have taken dozens of workers at least a dozen weeks per building...
Are you some kind of expert at building demolition, or are you just talking out of your ass? You do know that there was work going on in those buildings 24/7 for better than 6 months prior to 9/11, right? You do know that it was "upgrading the wiring" for Internet, phones, etc., right? You don't think union cards can be counterfeited?
Work is always ongoing at large commercial buildings, Princess, and I do indeed know how much time and effort is involved in rigging even a 10 story building for demo; dozens of highly trained professionals, heavy power tools and torches and 12 weeks plus a lot of very dangerous, highly explosive materials. Rather than waste your time scouring the fetid bowels of the Internet searching for "proof" of your foil-hat CTs, try researching what it would take to do the shit you seem to believe takes a couple of Mexicans 15 minutes to accomplish.
You're full of shit, Sayit. CDI, the GRANDADDY of controlled demo, doesn't even HAVE "dozens of employees", and 12 weeks is the LONGEST time it's taken them to do ANY job.
Listen to the statements of those who were there, Ollie.
Even Rudy Giuliani states in this video that the temperature was OVER 2,000 degrees WEEKS after the collapses.
Pay particular attention to the portion of the video dealing with the 'cross' @ 2:30...
Molten Steel At World Trade Center Site/Ground Zero after 9/11. - YouTube
This is exactly what I am talking about. Not one expert nothing but normal everyday people with their opinions. A picture of the "meteorite with rebar sticking all through the concrete, and yes rebar would have melted long before any steel that they claim made up part of the piece. And the cross? Sorry but it was not welded together during the collapse but during the construction.
You really need to check things out a little closer.....
Here Ollie, I transcribed the man's words for you so you wouldn't make the same mistake again.
"And there, this cross, is fully extended, melted together with the intense heat, the two beams were never initially part of the same structure. Heat, literally melted them together, and the piece of metal that's draped over it was molten metal that had literally fallen over one of the arms."
I have read it and you are so wrong it's laughable...The demo rigging alone at the WTC would have taken dozens of workers at least a dozen weeks per building and their work would have been noisy, dirty, noticed and challenged by the union workers who maintain the WTC. Unions are extremely protective of their turf and do not quietly allow others to get some. Add to that all those in positions of power who would have had to be involved at every decision making level, the intermediaries who would have been charged to carrying out the orders from above, our entire MS media, the FBI, the CIA, every independent investigator (pro and amateur) our Justice Dept, etc, etc, etc.
Frankly, to buy into this CT silliness one must abandon all rationality and some here have done exactly that.
you have no clue of the logistics involved..and the fact remains..NIST has no real explanation for the collapse..if you ever read the NIST report you will see they only investigate up collapse initiation(how the collapse began)
to avoid the need to explain the entire collapse sequence
states its first objective was to “Determine why and how
another intentionally misinterpreted phrase...by a debunked think tank.PNAC Document:And please Don't try comparing this to Pearl Harbor.......
Page 51:Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing eventlike a new Pearl Harbor"
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Can't let a good crisis go to waste right?
