94% of NYC Chinese Virus patients had another disease.
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Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000www.theblaze.com
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.abcnews.go.com
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
Nostra
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Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Nostra
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Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
LordBrownTrout
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No, they went back to pull those records and change it to covid 19 because....
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Kinda makes you wonder how many actually died from the Chinese Virus. Also makes you wonder why NYC is infested with disease riddled people.
Nearly all NY coronavirus patients suffered underlying health issue, study finds
A new study by a medical journal revealed that most of the people in New York City who were hospitalized due to coronavirus had one or more underlying health issues.www.foxnews.com
Stupid questions from stupid people:
Why is New York infested with disease riddled people:
1. Largest number of travellers arriving from out of country in the world.
2. No testing at either airport for people arriving from world hot spots. Not in January when the disease started spreading outside China, and not today when it is spreading throughout the earth. The USA still does not have cheap, quick, reliable testing.
3. NYC is one of the most densely populated cities on earth and this is a disease which spreads early and spreads often. Social distancing is the only thing that halts the spread.
4. Because housing is so expensive, low wage workers, with no employer health care, working in the food and public service industries, share living quarters with others.
5. Personal space on mass transit during rush hour is non existent.
6. Few people can afford health insurance, and even fewer can afford a trip to emergency, so they're much sicker and they've been contagious for much longer before they go to emergency and get a $1000 bill for co-pays even if they do have insurance.
And that's just off the top of my head, without even googling. Why would a highly contagious disease which kills people with underlying conditions spread in a large metropolitan area first? Geez, Louise.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
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Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
esalla
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And 100 percent of them were sick of cuomoKinda makes you wonder how many actually died from the Chinese Virus. Also makes you wonder why NYC is infested with disease riddled people.
Nearly all NY coronavirus patients suffered underlying health issue, study finds
A new study by a medical journal revealed that most of the people in New York City who were hospitalized due to coronavirus had one or more underlying health issues.
Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
At least you admit that the President doing something saved us from the 1.5M death toll. Since it is 50K, Trump doing something saved 1.495M lives BY. YOUR. OWN. ADMISSION. We may have to amend the constitution to give him a third term but until then Bye Bye Joe The Rapist.
harmonica
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.....plus the pre-existing obesity is a killer..I'm betting many were overweight/obese
1. one of the world's largest health problems
2. obesity--a pre-existing KILLER helping C19
1. one of the world's largest health problems
2. obesity--a pre-existing KILLER helping C19
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
At least you admit that the President doing something saved us from the 1.5M death toll. Since it is 50K, Trump doing something saved 1.495M lives BY. YOUR. OWN. ADMISSION. We may have to amend the constitution to give him a third term but until then Bye Bye Joe The Rapist.
Figures never lie but liars often figure. THIS ISN'T OVER SKIPPY. IT'S 50,000 DEATHS WITH 135,000 "CLOSED CASES". THERE ARE 750,000 ACTIVE CASES TODAY AND 50,000 NEW CASES EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU'VE ALREADY PASSED BEST CASE SCENARIO, AND YOU'RE WELL INTO, WE NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER RIGHT FUCKING NOW TO PREVENT MORE LOSS OF LIFE.
EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES.
And that estimate of 60000, is only up to August 4th or so.....Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
I thought the 100k to 240k estimate with mitigation, was for the virus year....
Influenza virus deaths are counted on a yearly basis.
In average influenza year, 36000 people die....In the YEAR.
IN a bad flu year, where the particular flu spreading is missed and not in the vaccine, 60k to 90k deaths for THE YEAR.
Why is Trump using the revised 60k number, and using August as the date instead of a projected yearly deaths as the flu is calculated? So the deaths don't seem so high????
We will have more than the revised 60k before August, with us being over 50k the third week of April already....imo.
lantern2814
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Damn, what a drama queen. Putting your lies and hysterics in bold doesn’t make them true.Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
At least you admit that the President doing something saved us from the 1.5M death toll. Since it is 50K, Trump doing something saved 1.495M lives BY. YOUR. OWN. ADMISSION. We may have to amend the constitution to give him a third term but until then Bye Bye Joe The Rapist.
Figures never lie but liars often figure. THIS ISN'T OVER SKIPPY. IT'S 50,000 DEATHS WITH 135,000 "CLOSED CASES". THERE ARE 750,000 ACTIVE CASES TODAY AND 50,000 NEW CASES EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU'VE ALREADY PASSED BEST CASE SCENARIO, AND YOU'RE WELL INTO, WE NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER RIGHT FUCKING NOW TO PREVENT MORE LOSS OF LIFE.
EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Damn, what a drama queen. Putting your lies and hysterics in bold doesn’t make them true.Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
At least you admit that the President doing something saved us from the 1.5M death toll. Since it is 50K, Trump doing something saved 1.495M lives BY. YOUR. OWN. ADMISSION. We may have to amend the constitution to give him a third term but until then Bye Bye Joe The Rapist.
Figures never lie but liars often figure. THIS ISN'T OVER SKIPPY. IT'S 50,000 DEATHS WITH 135,000 "CLOSED CASES". THERE ARE 750,000 ACTIVE CASES TODAY AND 50,000 NEW CASES EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU'VE ALREADY PASSED BEST CASE SCENARIO, AND YOU'RE WELL INTO, WE NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER RIGHT FUCKING NOW TO PREVENT MORE LOSS OF LIFE.
EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES.
No, neither does endlessly repeating your Trumpian fairy tales of how there are literally millions of masks on their way to hospitals. Except hospitals all over American are begging for masks - still. Is Pence sending them by slow dog sled? Nurse in hot spot cities are still begging for masks.
Or Trump has saved millions of lives. He has done nothing of the kind. The USA wouldn't have the first world's highest rate of infection and death if Trump had done a good job.
Look at Germany, South Korea, New Zealand. Those countries did a good job. Trump is right up there with Spain, Italy, and Iran. Worst in the world.
Trump is pissing on you and telling you it's raining, and you're buying it.
lantern2814
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Link to me stating any of that? By the way, when you have one of the largest populations in the world, you are going to have more cases. Simple math. President Xi is most happy with you spreading the propaganda.Damn, what a drama queen. Putting your lies and hysterics in bold doesn’t make them true.Cuomo will guess so he can pad the number of deaths on his watch so he can whine and cry about the rest of America bailing him out from his mismanagemen.I don't know? With the woman in Calif who collapsed and died in her kitchen three weeks earlier than what we thought was our first COVID death in the USA, the coroner said her death was a heart attack on the death certificate,the morgue/ coroner had blood samples of her taken before she was buried.... And that's how they confirmed it.Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....Yes, as I said, with the exception of Cuomo adding nursing home deaths of covid to his count.While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now,Try not using your fake right wing news, where they intentionally leave out the details, but give you links to go to....Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths,Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.NYC has so many because they count "suspected cases" WITHOUT TESTING...
Since tests for people suspected of having Covid 19 have shown a 15-20% rate of positives, that means 80-85% percent of the people counted as dying of Covid 19 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE VIRUS!!!
And all those dying at home from covid are not counted because they were never tested.
A woman was on the news yesterday, whose husband died at home from the alleged flu want Ted her husband tested for flu and covid, the coroner said they didn't have tests to do that, so the woman hired a private autopsy company, who ran the covid test and flu and her husband died of COVID.
I do not know where you got that misinformation from, thAt you're erroneously spreading??
Once again you are caught in a blatant lie.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus
New York City's total coronavirus death toll saw a major spike on Tuesday, after officials added more than 3,700 fatalities to the count "including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it," the New York Times reported.
New York City adds thousands to COVID-19 death toll who never tested positive for the virus | Blaze Media
The inclusion of 3,700 'presumed' deaths from the coronavirus sent the total count over 10,000
GO IN TO THOSE LINKS, to make certain you get the full story....
In one of the links it verifies PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.
Only tested covid cases are counted as covid deaths, with the exception of nursing home deaths from it, which were not in the covid count until Cuomo added them, is my understanding.
CUOMO GAVE THE FIGURE IN HIS PRESSER AND Around 3500 from nursing homes, assisted homes or privately being assisted in private homes...
Here is what it says in the original source article....
NYC revises coronavirus death toll to over 10,000 with 'probable' deaths
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now claimed the lives of more than 125,000 people around the world.
New York City's Health Department is now attributing 3,778 more deaths to the coronavirus, officially citing them as "probable" cases.
These are deaths of people -- at nursing homes, assisted living facilities and private homes -- who never received a test, but are likely to have died of coronavirus in the last month.
While these deaths have not been included in publicly announced counts until now, city health officials have been cataloging these additional people and examining their symptoms and medical histories.
"We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of COVID-19 gets counted," New York Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot said in a statement.
While the state is attributing 7,905 deaths in New York City to coronavirus, this tally of 3,778 more "probable" deaths pushes New York City's death toll over 10,000 and puts the
Thanks for confirming they are now including people who were never tested in the Chinese Virus death count.
The CDC was not and still is not, counting ALL OF THE MASSIVE DEATHS taking place in nursing and assisted living homes.
The CDC only counts the patients or people given a COVID test, and positive....
Cuomo' s department of health is doing the RIGHT THING by gathering this information, determining who and how many, truly died from this disease....
Scientists need to know as well, and others who special in the spread of disease, so to better prepare us, for the next evil virus....
Cuomo said yesterday, his health dept is also going to review any of the pneumonia and flu like deaths in January and February at their homes, and see if any of them died of COVID....
It's important to know...
They will likely find that their first COVID death, was much sooner, just like California found earlier this week.
So, is Cuomo digging people up and testing them........or just assuming they died of the Chinese Virus like he is for all the other untested dead people?
Cuomo isn't in charge of the CDC or testing. Trump is.
In a "national emergency" is it the obligation of the federal government to take charge.
Anyone who has covid19 and dies as a result, would still be alive if not for the virus, so yes, those deaths should be attributed to Covid19, and not just the underlying condition. AIDS doesn't kill anyone. It destroys the immune system so patients die of heart failure, or pneumonia, but in reality, it was the AIDS which killed them.
Same with Covid19. It attacks the heart, the lungs, the kidneys. Those with stronger organs recover, those with weaker or damaged organs, can be vulnerable to pneumonia or hearth failure, which, absent the covid19, would not have happened.
Trumpists are trying to downplay the amount of blood on Donnie's hands. 50,000 and counting. 750,000 still sick. 37% of Closed cases in the USA result in death. You could be looking at an additional 275,000 people dying before the end of May. I thought this number would come down last week, but it's not going down. It was 37% when there was no testing at all, and it's still at 37% of closed cases. The world rate is 20%, but does include numbers from China.
The projection was well over a million deaths in the US, so Donald Two Term Trump has personally saved close to a million and a half people so far.
Bullshit. The projection was over a million deaths if the President did nothing. If he just let the thing run amok. Dr. Faucci said if you did everything right, and nothing went wrong, you could have as few as 60,000 deaths. You'll hit that number before the end of the month.
What I keep looking at is that 37% death rate among closed cases and more than 750,000 active cases. I kept waiting day, by day, over the past few weeks, for it to come down. I started to come down, and made it to 35, but then went back up to 37% again yesterday.
At least you admit that the President doing something saved us from the 1.5M death toll. Since it is 50K, Trump doing something saved 1.495M lives BY. YOUR. OWN. ADMISSION. We may have to amend the constitution to give him a third term but until then Bye Bye Joe The Rapist.
Figures never lie but liars often figure. THIS ISN'T OVER SKIPPY. IT'S 50,000 DEATHS WITH 135,000 "CLOSED CASES". THERE ARE 750,000 ACTIVE CASES TODAY AND 50,000 NEW CASES EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU'VE ALREADY PASSED BEST CASE SCENARIO, AND YOU'RE WELL INTO, WE NEED TO DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER RIGHT FUCKING NOW TO PREVENT MORE LOSS OF LIFE.
EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES.
No, neither does endlessly repeating your Trumpian fairy tales of how there are literally millions of masks on their way to hospitals. Except hospitals all over American are begging for masks - still. Is Pence sending them by slow dog sled? Nurse in hot spot cities are still begging for masks.
Or Trump has saved millions of lives. He has done nothing of the kind. The USA wouldn't have the first world's highest rate of infection and death if Trump had done a good job.
Look at Germany, South Korea, New Zealand. Those countries did a good job. Trump is right up there with Spain, Italy, and Iran. Worst in the world.
Trump is pissing on you and telling you it's raining, and you're buying it.
You mean like high blood pressure? Obesity?Kinda makes you wonder how many actually died from the Chinese Virus. Also makes you wonder why NYC is infested with disease riddled people.
Nearly all NY coronavirus patients suffered underlying health issue, study finds
A new study by a medical journal revealed that most of the people in New York City who were hospitalized due to coronavirus had one or more underlying health issues.
1 in 3 Americans have high blood pressure.
39% of Americans are considered obese.
Yeah- New York is 'infested with disease riddled people'- just like all of America is.
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