A federal judge just affirmed Trumps bump stock ban

[Frannie]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

 

[Preacher]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

 

[Pete7469]

Get your retroactive abortion soon.

 

[Intolerant]

Ah great another sock. Call me a criminal cause I have 5 of them.

 

[Frannie]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

You do not need a link if you have the brains to do a google search

 

[Rigby5]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

That would be illegal.
It is called the ex post facto principle.
That which you did in good faith legally, can not later be declared illegal.
For example, when Prohibition was passed, all existing stocks of alcohol could still be legally sold.
You can't make something illegal retroactively.
So anyone with a bumpstock can not have it take from them.

However, you can make the sale of future bumpstocks prohibited once the current inventory supply is gone.

 

[Rigby5]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

You do not need a link if you have the brains to do a google search

Everyone needs a link to the claim that those currently owning bumpstocks would be required to surrender them.
That is not how law works, and it would need a link to show that was the working of the current law.
Because then the law would easily be struck down on appeals.

And it does appear the BATF is attempting to violate the law:
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ATF’s bump-stock ban is slated to go into effect March 26. At that point, bump-stock owners will be required to destroy the devices by melting or shattering them or to drop them off at an ATF office.

In its rule change, ATF simply clarified the definitions of words such as “automatic” and phrases such as “single function of the trigger.” The agency has been debating whether certain types of bump stocks should be banned since at least 2002. It decided that a single type of bump stock was illegal in 2006 before expanding that interpretation to all bump stocks in December.

The gun-rights groups also tried to challenge the validity of the rule on the grounds that then-acting attorney general Matthew G. Whitaker had been unconstitutionally appointed by Trump. Friedrich found that this argument also lacked any merit.

But while support for banning bump stocks is strong on the left, at least some Democrats opposed the ATF rule change. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) argued that the authority to make such changes should rest with Congress.

Feinstein predicted in commentary for The Washington Post that the ban would end up entangled in litigation, possibly preventing it from taking effect.

“Support for banning bump stocks is widespread, and it’s encouraging to see the Trump administration take action on gun safety,” she wrote. “But let’s not celebrate too quickly. Presidents can rescind regulations just as easily as they create them, and in this case, the bump stock ban will likely be tied up in court for years.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d-federal-judge-rules/?utm_term=.e402fef3df0d

The ex post facto principle is that what was legal can not now be considered a crime.
It is illegal to try to make people turn in things they legally purchased and owned.

 

[Preacher]

I

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

You do not need a link if you have the brains to do a google search

Its the rules of the forum, just giving you a heads up..could just report this and they will delete it stop being a **** I was offering friendly advice AND telling you ALL threads need a link when posted in certain places on the forum.

 

[Frannie]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

That would be illegal.
It is called the ex post facto principle.
That which you did in good faith legally, can not later be declared illegal.
For example, when Prohibition was passed, all existing stocks of alcohol could still be legally sold.
You can't make something illegal retroactively.
So anyone with a bumpstock can not have it take from them.

However, you can make the sale of future bumpstocks prohibited once the current inventory supply is gone.

Dude if you own a bumpstock you must destroy it or turn it over to the atf.. once the ban goes into effect. Furthermore during prohibition found alcohol was spilled not sold. You seem to be living in the twilight zone

 

[Frannie]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

You do not need a link if you have the brains to do a google search

Everyone needs a link to the claim that those currently owning bumpstocks would be required to surrender them.
That is not how law works, and it would need a link to show that was the working of the current law.
Because then the law would easily be struck down on appeals.

Dude you just said that internet links determine the law. Graduate 8th grade then come back

 

[Frannie]

I

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

You do not need a link if you have the brains to do a google search

Its the rules of the forum, just giving you a heads up..could just report this and they will delete it stop being a **** I was offering friendly advice AND telling you ALL threads need a link when posted in certain places on the forum.

I have a link but the forum will not let me post it.
Friendly advice for you

 

[keepitreal]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

ROFLMFAO

Just create bump stock sanctuary cities

 

[Frannie]

[/QUOTE]
Its the rules of the forum, just giving you a heads up..could just report this and they will delete it stop being a **** I was offering friendly advice AND telling you ALL threads need a link when posted in certain places on the forum.[/QUOTE]
Type [arizona republic bump stock ban] and read

So either you turn it in or go to the pokey for up to 10 years

 

[Frannie]

Ah great another sock. Call me a criminal cause I have 5 of them.

The atf.. might just be tracing your Id.. very soon

 

[Intolerant]

Ah great another sock. Call me a criminal cause I have 5 of them.

The atf.. might just be tracing your Id.. very soon

The government knows all about me. I already have your IP.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Yeah, fuck you. We don't give a shit because we WILL have machine guns soon. Piss your pants and cry.

 

[Frannie]

Ah great another sock. Call me a criminal cause I have 5 of them.

The atf.. might just be tracing your Id.. very soon

The government knows all about me. I already have your IP.

March 26 you are a criminal and I will let the atf.. know that u just bragged about owning 5 bump stocks.... they have a tip line

Next doofus

 

[Rigby5]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

That would be illegal.
It is called the ex post facto principle.
That which you did in good faith legally, can not later be declared illegal.
For example, when Prohibition was passed, all existing stocks of alcohol could still be legally sold.
You can't make something illegal retroactively.
So anyone with a bumpstock can not have it take from them.

However, you can make the sale of future bumpstocks prohibited once the current inventory supply is gone.

Dude if you own a bumpstock you must destroy it or turn it over to the atf.. once the ban goes into effect. Furthermore during prohibition found alcohol was spilled not sold. You seem to be living in the twilight zone

I think bumpstocks are stupid and would never own one, but anyone attempting to TAKE a bumpstock from anyone who legally bought it, would be a criminal who should be shot.
The BATF can NOT legally criminalize something retroactively.
You clearly do not understand the law.
Here is the law on ex post facto principle.

{...
An ex post facto law (corrupted from Latin: ex postfacto, lit. 'out of the aftermath') is a law that retroactively changes the legal consequences (or status) of actions that were committed, or relationships that existed, before the enactment of the law. In criminal law, it may criminalize actions that were legal when committed; it may aggravate a crime by bringing it into a more severe category than it was in when it was committed; it may change the punishment prescribed for a crime, as by adding new penalties or extending sentences; or it may alter the rules of evidencein order to make conviction for a crime likelier than it would have been when the deed was committed.

Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly called an amnesty law may decriminalize certain acts. (Alternatively, rather than redefining the relevant acts as non-criminal, it may simply prohibit prosecution; or it may enact that there is to be no punishment, but leave the underlying conviction technically unaltered.) A pardon has a similar effect, in a specific case instead of a class of cases (though a pardon more often leaves the conviction itself – the finding of guilt – unaltered, and occasionally pardons are refused for this reason).

Other legal changes may alleviate possible punishments (for example by replacing the death sentence with lifelong imprisonment) retroactively. Such legal changes are also known by the Latin term in mitius.

Some common-law jurisdictions do not permit retroactive criminal legislation, though new precedent generally applies to events that occurred before the judicial decision. Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws). In some nations that follow the Westminster system of government, such as the United Kingdom, ex post facto laws are technically possible, because the doctrine of parliamentary supremacy allows Parliament to pass any law it wishes. In a nation with an entrenched bill of rights or a written constitution, ex post facto legislation may be prohibited.

While American jurisdictions generally prohibit ex post facto laws, European countries apply the principle of lex mitior ("the milder law"). It provides that, if the law has changed after an offense was committed, the version of the law that applies is the one that is more advantageous for the accused. This means that ex post facto laws apply in European jurisdictions to the extent that they are the milder law.
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Ex post facto law - Wikipedia

The BATF is notorious for violating the law, and if they try to implement this, they will not get away with it.

And no, alcohol WAS sold AFTER Prohibition.
Existing stocks could not legally be confiscated without due compensation.
All alcohol has a tax stamp showing when it was made.
Prohibition could NOT at all prevent the sale of alcohol made before the amendment was passed.
Learn the law.

 

[Frannie]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Yeah, fuck you. We don't give a shit because we WILL have machine guns soon. Piss your pants and cry.

U go girl

250000 dollar fine and 10 years is what you will have

 

[Rigby5]

The NRA commented that you can take their bump stock from their cold dead hands.....

Anyone in possession of a bump stock will soon be a criminal

So NRA turds take your Vegas vacation soon

Need a link. Also this will be appealed to SC...

You do not need a link if you have the brains to do a google search

Everyone needs a link to the claim that those currently owning bumpstocks would be required to surrender them.
That is not how law works, and it would need a link to show that was the working of the current law.
Because then the law would easily be struck down on appeals.

Dude you just said that internet links determine the law. Graduate 8th grade then come back

No, what I wrote was that a link is needed because it is so controversial.
And it is not a link to the fact the BATF wants to make bumpstocks illegal.
It is whether the BATF is going to try to make them illegal retroactively.
The BATF can easily make them illegal, but the BATF can never legally make them illegal retroactively.
That is strictly in violation of the ex post facto law in the US.