A Phenomenon Beyond Comprehension

[Indeependent]

You mean of the citizens who bother to vote?

Yes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Spoken like the true Fascist U R who basically dislikes and distrusts most of America and most Americans.

That's what is on the Ballot for the New Republican Party led by Benedict Donald.

Just vote them all out Ladies, they are not on our side.

Get lost, Elmer.

 

[BlindBoo]

Get lost, Elmer.

Poor stinky, the American hatin loser.

Why do you hate so many Americans, stinkpot?

 

[Indeependent]

Poor stinky, the American hatin loser.

Why do you hate so many Americans, stinkpot?

You are the self-serving jackass here.

 

[FA_Q2]

Always interesting to see the right proclaiming just how much they hate the first amendment.

It is not just wrong for you to hold a political ideology that you don't like, it should be ILLEGAL.

The rights fascination with supporting McCarthy has neve made any sense whatsoever. It is similar to the frantic adoration many currently have with Trump. It is also yet another hard proof that they do not want small government but rather massive, intrusive government that agrees with them.

 

[Indeependent]

Always interesting to see the right proclaiming just how much they hate the first amendment.

It is not just wrong for you to hold a political ideology that you don't like, it should be ILLEGAL.

The rights fascination with supporting McCarthy has neve made any sense whatsoever. It is similar to the frantic adoration many currently have with Trump. It is also yet another hard proof that they do not want small government but rather massive, intrusive government that agrees with them.

Always interesting to see the left proclaiming just how much they hate the first amendment.

 

[FA_Q2]

Always interesting to see the left proclaiming just how much they hate the first amendment.

And that has something to do with this thread how?

The I know you are but what am I defense. How second grade of you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Always interesting to see the right proclaiming just how much they hate the first amendment.

It is not just wrong for you to hold a political ideology that you don't like, it should be ILLEGAL.

The rights fascination with supporting McCarthy has neve made any sense whatsoever. It is similar to the frantic adoration many currently have with Trump. It is also yet another hard proof that they do not want small government but rather massive, intrusive government that agrees with them.

Here's another Elmer reporting in.


Hate the first amendment????


Let's check.

. Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors 2of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????

“The 1954 federal Johnson Amendment prohibits a pastor from talking about candidates from the pulpit in light of Scripture. Thus, based on what a pastor says about an election from the pulpit, the tax code allows the government to tax a church. Consider that in light of the Internal Revenue Service's increasingly vague regulations, and you have a recipe for the censorship of religion. The IRS, through those vague regulations, reserves for itself tremendous discretion and power to decide which churches to punish for violations of the Johnson Amendment and which not to punish.”
Why don't churches pay taxes?


Any reading of the first amendment will prove this to be unconstitutional.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


"My Administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the Constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we do not punish prayer. We do not tear down crosses. We do not ban symbols of faith. We do not muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God!"
Trump, SOTU 2020




Get it, you dunce???????

 

[FA_Q2]

Here's another Elmer reporting in.


Hate the first amendment????


Let's check.

. Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors 2of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????

“The 1954 federal Johnson Amendment prohibits a pastor from talking about candidates from the pulpit in light of Scripture. Thus, based on what a pastor says about an election from the pulpit, the tax code allows the government to tax a church. Consider that in light of the Internal Revenue Service's increasingly vague regulations, and you have a recipe for the censorship of religion. The IRS, through those vague regulations, reserves for itself tremendous discretion and power to decide which churches to punish for violations of the Johnson Amendment and which not to punish.”
Why don't churches pay taxes?


Any reading of the first amendment will prove this to be unconstitutional.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


"My Administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the Constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we do not punish prayer. We do not tear down crosses. We do not ban symbols of faith. We do not muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God!"
Trump, SOTU 2020




Get it, you dunce???????

Another excuse common to the authoritarian idiots, they did it too, whaaaaaaa.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This moron's post is just PERFECT for this thread!!!!!


Remember how I destroyed another Elmer earlier....

“ There were hundreds if not thousands of people who lost jobs, careers, even families based on McCarty's (sic) over reach and list he compiled and interrogated. Innocent people.”
Yea Or Nay?
One hears this time and again from the indoctrinated....
If this is true…..it should be eminently simple to prove.

Name one.

He couldn't.



Now this lamebrain comes along with one of their lies, that our side hates free speech......and I utterly destroy him with the Democrats taking free speech away from religious folks.....

AND THE DUNCE DENIES WHAT PROVED WITH THE ACTUAL DEMOCRAT LAW!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FA_Q2]

This moron's post is just PERFECT for this thread!!!!!


Remember how I destroyed another Elmer earlier....

“ There were hundreds if not thousands of people who lost jobs, careers, even families based on McCarty's (sic) over reach and list he compiled and interrogated. Innocent people.”
Yea Or Nay?
One hears this time and again from the indoctrinated....
If this is true…..it should be eminently simple to prove.

Name one.

He couldn't.



Now this lamebrain comes along with one of their lies, that our side hates free speech......and I utterly destroy him with the Democrats taking free speech away from religious folks.....

AND THE DUNCE DENIES WHAT PROVED WITH THE ACTUAL DEMOCRAT LAW!!!!!!!!!!

How does democrats destroying free speech show that republicans are not destroying free speech?

Talk about moronic, you don't even try to bother defending your position. Just bitching about the other side.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Another excuse common to the authoritarian idiots, they did it too, whaaaaaaa.

Here's where I continue to smash custard pies in your ugly kisser: Democrat Supreme Court Justice Kagan says we should get rid of free speech.

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"

Elena Kagan Radical anti-gun nut?

Via The Volokh Conspiracy comes this blast from Elena Kagan’s past. The Chicago Tribune’s James Oliphant reports: “According to records at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Littl…

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5. “Earlier this week, Obama-appointed Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan wrote in her minority dissent to the Janus ruling that the Court had “weaponized the First Amendment.”

The majority opinion dwelt on issues of compelled speech, noting that “because such compulsion so plainly violates the Constitution, most of our free speech cases have involved restrictions on what can be said, rather than laws compelling speech. But measures compelling speech are at least as threatening.”

Kagan, however, has other ideas and claimed in her dissent that

“The First Amendment was meant for better things,” she concluded.

Kagan’s fantastical notion of “black-robed rulers overriding citizens’ choices” by “weaponizing the First Amendment” is puzzling. Citizens in non-right-to-work states are completely free to join a union if they so wish, and in doing so, commit to paying union dues. The only change here is that unions can no longer extort dues from non-members in any state.

Citizens’ choices have not been overridden; indeed, citizen choice is expanded under this ruling. They can join a union or not join a union, those who do not join cannot be compelled to pay union dues, but they are also not barred from doing so if they wish.

Her point about “weaponizing the First Amendment” is equally confounding. The Founders intendedthe First Amendment to be a weapon . . . against government tyranny and oppression. They were insistent that freedom of speech was required to check government and to maintain a free and independent citizenry.” Who's afraid of the 1st Amendment?



Here I am slappin’ you around like a school girl at a Taliban picnic.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How does democrats destroying free speech show that republicans are not destroying free speech?

Talk about moronic, you don't even try to bother defending your position. Just bitching about the other side.

Next time remember to take off your shoes before you put your feet in your mouth.....you buffoon.

 

[PoliticalChic]

See what I mean about these Elmers.....er, Democrats.....

They look at the facts.....and ignore them.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The Reality of Red Subversion
The Recent Confirmation of Soviet Espionage in America
STEPHEN J. SNIEGOSKI • SEPTEMBER 1, 2003

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In an apparent effort to illustrate political simple-mindedness, Carroll Quigley derisively wrote in his noted (at least by the John Birch Society) Tragedy and Hope, that the “same groups who were howling about Soviet espionage in 1948-1955 were also claiming that President Roosevelt expected and wanted Pearl Harbor.”[1] In a previous contribution to The Occidental Quarterly, I dealt with the latter; here I will do some “howling” about the former. According to what until recently has passed as conventional wisdom for the liberal establishment, America in the late 1940s and early 1950s was gripped by a terrible Red scare, a period of anti-Communist hysteria and witch hunts. Malicious “red-baiters” slandered innocent liberals as Communists in order to destroy the reforms of the New Deal and impede peace with the Soviet Union. At most, some of the more “anti-Communist” liberals would concede that there may have been a few Communist subversives, but nothing to justify the terrible anti-Communist overreaction, above all the antics of the demagogic Joe McCarthy. From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the strongest taboos in American political discourse was the subject of Soviet influence within the United States.

During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.



From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism.

The Reality of Red Subversion
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This is NOT propaganda, it is history. The creeping of the Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist, Democrat disregard of Human Nature, and their lust for power and control, is on the stage today for all to see. It's been a LONG time coming over the last CENTURY!

Here, let Uncle Yuri explain it clearly...



Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.
It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.
From a Former KGB Agent: The 4 stages of Subverting a Nation – James Japan

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We are witnessing today the results of this infiltration into our gov, edu, and media.

Destabilization and crisis are all the demented left have to offer, and here we are.

 

[FA_Q2]

Next time remember to take off your shoes before you put your feet in your mouth.....you buffoon.

Its not me with shoe leather in my mouth. You just keep repeating that the left is attacking free speech. Nowhere have I said they have not.

That YOU are doing the same thing is the problem. Next time you try and attack our constitutional freedoms you should come up with a better excuse than the democrats do it too.

You look EXACTLY like they do. What is it you think about the democrat party again?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Its not me with shoe leather in my mouth. You just keep repeating that the left is attacking free speech. Nowhere have I said they have not.

That YOU are doing the same thing is the problem. Next time you try and attack our constitutional freedoms you should come up with a better excuse than the democrats do it too.

You look EXACTLY like they do. What is it you think about the democrat party again?

I'm doing my best to teach you, yet you fail to see how foolish your posts are.
American values are vested in and nourished by the Right.
Democrats are a European party that abjures free speech.


The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
“free markets, free voices, free people”

,
Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I want to thank all the Elmers.....Democrats....who dropped by to offer proof that they love lies so much that they keep saying them after they've been proven false.

Yet they will not face what is clearly the reality: they are treated via Mushroom Management.



Anyone with two or more cerebral neurons to rub together can surmise from the fifty or so lies and hoaxes that have been exposed, as in "Russia Collusion," realizes that none of the mainstream media can be trusted.

The simplest way to ascertain the truth of any story, event, explanation is this:

a. if it redounds to the benefit of the Democrats, consider it false.

b. do your own research to conclude whether that first calculation is correct (it will be).





No longer do truth, logic, or experience fit into the Democrat firmament.

We are truly watching an asylum run by the inmates.....the Elmers.

 

[FA_Q2]

I'm doing my best to teach you, yet you fail to see how foolish your posts are.
American values are vested in and nourished by the Right.
Democrats are a European party that abjures free speech.


The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
“free markets, free voices, free people”

,
Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

There you go again. Bitching about the left.

Not a single point to defend anything you state, just bitching that the other side does it too.

Over and over and over and over and over and over.

 

[Indeependent]

And that has something to do with this thread how?

The I know you are but what am I defense. How second grade of you.

The Irony!
Today's Liberals make up shit around an event and scream and then pretend they allow others to respond.
Today's Liberals are mentally ill Nazis.