A Very Cool New Chevy

[Dana7360]

It looks like Chevy has made an EV car that has a range of 200 miles.

I was looking at a Tesla for my next car but this Chevy car has a farther range and costs less.

I'm glad to see more EV cars available.

Chevy Bolt EV Concept

I'm glad to see the electric car coming back. Gm has been a bit crummy with their designs. It's cool that this thing is in the realm of the Tesla for mileage. But it's ugly as holy hell. But let me know how it drives.

The warranty runs out on my Prius at the end of this year so I won't be test driving until then. I only own a car for as long as the warranty then I get a new one.

I think the Leaf is very ugly but not this car or the Tesla. I won't be test driving a Leaf.

The leaf is heinous. The Tesla is cool. This gm like most of their vehicles in that body class ate ugly. But the best car I've ever owned was ugly. My criticisms are superficial.

I used to think that the Prius was ugly. Both the first body then the one they've had for over a decade. I now drive a Prius. I first bought a Honda Civic hybrid because I thought the Prius was ugly. I will never, ever buy another Honda again. What a crap car. I got the Prius and it's been a good car. Even though I still think it's ugly though not as ugly as I first thought it was.

I will never think that the Leaf is a good looking car. If they change the body and make it better looking I might change my mind.

If Chevy doesn't make this car by the time I look for a new one I'll be buying a Tesla.

 

[Dana7360]

I've argued for the VOLT since GM unveiled it.....AWESOME technology the lunatics against it can't argue with.....it's range of 40+ miles before the gas motor kicked in was fine for most city driving but I'd need 50 here in Phoenix. But I drove one and man....like being in a space ship....NO NOISE to interfere with that kickass Bose sound system.....6 airbags and it'll do 100mph top-end. Too pricey though...they should have marketed the VOLT as a Cadillac. Hopefully with the better price on the BOLT they can make the VOLT dream come true.

My husband has a Volt. He got it in 2013. He loves his car. We live a couple miles from his work so he doesn't use the gas much of the time. When he goes into the city, on his way back it will flip over to the gas. Or when he drives down to our house by Mt. Rainier it flips over to gas after around 40 miles.

Yes it's a very luxurious car. It even learns. He doesn't have to use the garage remote to open the garage door. There's a button in that car that somehow learns the frequency of the remote and he doesn't need it anymore. The sound system is fantastic.

My only problem is that he won't let me drive it. LOL!

 

[Dana7360]

Saw an article today all of your evs wont even break even at this price in gas.....that is they no longer make sense for the avg consumer and wont for long time if Saudis quote on $100 oil is accurate.

It's not just about the price of gas. At least not with my husband or me. It's about the environment. We don't want to pollute the air anymore than we have to.

One benefit of that for me is that I have never had to have a hybrid car get smog checked. The last time I had to do that was 2004 when I still owned a Saturn.

A lot of places here will give very good parking spaces to hybrids and electric cars too. Which comes in handy.

I now spend around 40 dollars a month for gas. I get over 400 miles to the tank in the winter and a little over 500 miles in the summer.

Whether gas is expensive or not, I would rather drive a hybrid or electric car than a regular gas car.

 

[WinterBorn]

Saw an article today all of your evs wont even break even at this price in gas.....that is they no longer make sense for the avg consumer and wont for long time if Saudis quote on $100 oil is accurate.

Does anyone buy an ev intending to make a profit?

 

[Geaux4it]

It looks like Chevy has made an EV car that has a range of 200 miles.

I was looking at a Tesla for my next car but this Chevy car has a farther range and costs less.

I'm glad to see more EV cars available.

Chevy Bolt EV Concept

It's a piece of crap. Stay away. Get yourself a golf cart instead

-Geaux

 

[Iceweasel]

Build all the EV's that get charged up using electricity made from coal. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Not in my state it isn't.

Our one and only coal fired plant left in my state is being shut down. The shutdown stared in 2005 and should be done soon.

The electricity we use to recharge my husband's car comes mostly from water. Some from wind.

My state has a law that requires a certain amount of our electricity be generated from alternative power. We don't consider water alternative since hydro electricity has been around for 100 years.

Your state may still be slaves to dirty coal but not mine.

So I'm not a hypocrite.

Why do you lie so often? Oh, that's right, you're a liberal.

Deal shuts down state s last coal-fired power plant Local Regional Seattle News Weather Sports Breaking News KOMO News
SEATTLE (AP) — Washington's only coal-fired power plant will shut down one of two boilers by 2020 and phase out coal-burning entirely by 2025 under an agreement between TransAlta and environmental groups, according to a proposal released Saturday.

The Centralia plant accounts for 10 percent of the power generated in Washington, and lawmakers and state officials have worried about the stability of the electrical grid.

 

[Iceweasel]

On a side note, the libs shut down two nuclear plants, one almost built to completion at Satsop. You can't make these people happy.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

One question, how much hay can you haul in it?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Saw an article today all of your evs wont even break even at this price in gas.....that is they no longer make sense for the avg consumer and wont for long time if Saudis quote on $100 oil is accurate.

Does anyone buy an ev intending to make a profit?

I think saving money is part of the equation and the break even point....where fuel savings pay for extra cost of the battery was just pushed past life of the vehicle itself.

 

[BullKurtz]

I've been over the price of electricity vs. gasoline a hundred times about the VOLT....seems the opponents want to claim all the GM claims are lies because they hate Obozo, as do I. But this isn't about him. I like the concept of cutting back on air pollution and not buying $4 gas. The VOLT is a true EV because the gas engine runs the electric engine....the gas engine is not connected to the drive train......full-battery recharge is about 8 hours on 220. No garage fires.....that's all bullshit as are the claims firemen can be electrocuted getting you out of a wrecked VOLT....there are two discharge positions and all major fire departments have been briefed on how to approach a wrecked VOLT. The moment water hits the battery pack it discharges....another lie goes phfffffftttt. There are a lot of reasons to despise Obozo but GM isn't one of them.....they are THRIVING again on their own. The loss on the bailout money will or already has been made up by corporate and employee income taxes....so that's a push. And we've retained the ability to build thousands of trucks and tanks should there be a WW3.

 

[Iceweasel]

There are a lot of reasons to despise Obozo but GM isn't one of them.....they are THRIVING again on their own. The loss on the bailout money will or already has been made up by corporate and employee income taxes....so that's a push. And we've retained the ability to build thousands of trucks and tanks should there be a WW3.

The bailout hasn't been payed back last I checked but it isn't as if the market depends on GM or any other manufacturer. The market will step up and fill a void if there is one. For every auto GM doesn't build, someone else will. I believe the Volt is highly subsidized as well, I don't want to pay for someone else's car. Electric cars will sell when it makes sense, creating an artificial market by government typically screws things up.

 

[BullKurtz]

The bailout hasn't been payed back last I checked but it isn't as if the market depends on GM or any other manufacturer. The market will step up and fill a void if there is one. For every auto GM doesn't build, someone else will. I believe the Volt is highly subsidized as well, I don't want to pay for someone else's car. Electric cars will sell when it makes sense, creating an artificial market by government typically screws things up.

Sam no longer has a stake in GM or Chrysler and like I said, the difference between paying a million workers unemployment for years as opposed to raking in tax revenue Sam would never have seen, has settled that debt. A lot of the GM hate is from years of crap they built and guilt about owning jap cars. Now that Toyoda (the real spelling) isn't a company with new production facilities and a 20-something workforce that didn't require pensions or healthcare, they're going through what GM and the Big 3 went through for years and it's showing up in the quality of their cars. What pissed me off was Jeff Sessions in Alabama screaming about the bailout to protect his jap and german plants (built at taxpayer expense)...fucking traitor as far as I'm concerned. I'm from Detroit and spent a summer in a car plant....rough, dangerous, LOUD work that should be well-compensated as anybody who's walked through those gates knows.

 

[Iceweasel]

The bailout hasn't been payed back last I checked but it isn't as if the market depends on GM or any other manufacturer. The market will step up and fill a void if there is one. For every auto GM doesn't build, someone else will. I believe the Volt is highly subsidized as well, I don't want to pay for someone else's car. Electric cars will sell when it makes sense, creating an artificial market by government typically screws things up.

Sam no longer has a stake in GM or Chrysler and like I said, the difference between paying a million workers unemployment for years as opposed to raking in tax revenue Sam would never have seen, has settled that debt. A lot of the GM hate is from years of crap they built and guilt about owning jap cars. Now that Toyoda (the real spelling) isn't a company with new production facilities and a 20-something workforce that didn't require pensions or healthcare, they're going through what GM and the Big 3 went through for years and it's showing up in the quality of their cars. What pissed me off was Jeff Sessions in Alabama screaming about the bailout to protect his jap and german plants (built at taxpayer expense)...fucking traitor as far as I'm concerned. I'm from Detroit and spent a summer in a car plant....rough, dangerous, LOUD work that should be well-compensated as anybody who's walked through those gates knows.

Like I said, the market would have been filled without the bailout, those workers pay taxes too. You are pretending no income would have been achieved without a bailout. I also don't agree that government handouts is a good excuse for more government handouts. Why should we pay people two years of unemployment? It should come out of what employees and companies put into it, not what government can take.

Government doesn't run its' own affairs very efficiently, it has no business picking winners and losers in the marketplace. Toyota is making fine cars. Ford didn't need a bailout and I still don't want to pay for someone else's wet dream.

 

[BullKurtz]

Like I said, the market would have been filled without the bailout, those workers pay taxes too. You are pretending no income would have been achieved without a bailout. I also don't agree that government handouts is a good excuse for more government handouts. Why should we pay people two years of unemployment? It should come out of what employees and companies put into it, not what government can take.

Government doesn't run its' own affairs very efficiently, it has no business picking winners and losers in the marketplace. Toyota is making fine cars. Ford didn't need a bailout and I still don't want to pay for someone else's wet dream.

Toyota is building JUNK these days and Ford would have gone down too because the parts suppliers they all depend on would have gone down. You don't understand the car business so why pretend you do? The American car industry is essential to the defense of this nation....you don't outsource that. And the jap plants in this country are ASSEMBLY plants...the money in the car business is who builds the engines and driveshafts..not who bolts it all together.

 

[Iceweasel]

Like I said, the market would have been filled without the bailout, those workers pay taxes too. You are pretending no income would have been achieved without a bailout. I also don't agree that government handouts is a good excuse for more government handouts. Why should we pay people two years of unemployment? It should come out of what employees and companies put into it, not what government can take.

Government doesn't run its' own affairs very efficiently, it has no business picking winners and losers in the marketplace. Toyota is making fine cars. Ford didn't need a bailout and I still don't want to pay for someone else's wet dream.

Toyota is building JUNK these days and Ford would have gone down too because the parts suppliers they all depend on would have gone down. You don't understand the car business so why pretend you do? The American car industry is essential to the defense of this nation....you don't outsource that. And the jap plants in this country are ASSEMBLY plants...the money in the car business is who builds the engines and driveshafts..not who bolts it all together.

Lots of people are happy with their Toyotas and your opinion that parts companies couldn't make it without government handouts sounds like union gospel, not fact. If US auto manufacturers can't compete then they can go the way of innumerable other manufacturers of TVs, appliances, tools, etc. and just die. Government was not formed to supply jobs or manage the private sector. It isn't working out too well so more of the same isn't the answer.

 

[Dana7360]

Build all the EV's that get charged up using electricity made from coal. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Not in my state it isn't.

Our one and only coal fired plant left in my state is being shut down. The shutdown stared in 2005 and should be done soon.

The electricity we use to recharge my husband's car comes mostly from water. Some from wind.

My state has a law that requires a certain amount of our electricity be generated from alternative power. We don't consider water alternative since hydro electricity has been around for 100 years.

Your state may still be slaves to dirty coal but not mine.

So I'm not a hypocrite.

Why do you lie so often? Oh, that's right, you're a liberal.

Deal shuts down state s last coal-fired power plant Local Regional Seattle News Weather Sports Breaking News KOMO News
SEATTLE (AP) — Washington's only coal-fired power plant will shut down one of two boilers by 2020 and phase out coal-burning entirely by 2025 under an agreement between TransAlta and environmental groups, according to a proposal released Saturday.

The Centralia plant accounts for 10 percent of the power generated in Washington, and lawmakers and state officials have worried about the stability of the electrical grid.

You're going to have to be more specific because your article says that the plant is being shut down. My post said the plant is being shut down.

You're not making much sense. Plus your article is 4 years old.

I think you're mistaken here in some weird attempt to call me a liar.

What did I post that's untrue?

 

[BullKurtz]

Lots of people are happy with their Toyotas and your opinion that parts companies couldn't make it without government handouts sounds like union gospel, not fact. If US auto manufacturers can't compete then they can go the way of innumerable other manufacturers of TVs, appliances, tools, etc. and just die. Government was not formed to supply jobs or manage the private sector. It isn't working out too well so more of the same isn't the answer.

What "government handout"? BUSH gave GM and Chrysler bridge loans at 10%....Obozo extended that into providing enough capital they couldn't get from private sources to survive and save the industry. And now that money has been repaid and GM and Chrysler both are thriving....all they needed to do was even the playing field and now that's happened. Oh, and tell me how happy the Toyoda owners were when their throttles stuck? To this day the jap bastards haven't revealed why that happened...just paid the billion$ in lawsuits and gave us the finger. You can drive anything you want to...okay by me if you don't support fellow American workers....but don't pretend selfishness is the same thing as conservative thought....I buy American.

 

[HenryBHough]

Give it six months and the regime will be offering tax credits to help clear the factory storage lot.

 

[Iceweasel]

Lots of people are happy with their Toyotas and your opinion that parts companies couldn't make it without government handouts sounds like union gospel, not fact. If US auto manufacturers can't compete then they can go the way of innumerable other manufacturers of TVs, appliances, tools, etc. and just die. Government was not formed to supply jobs or manage the private sector. It isn't working out too well so more of the same isn't the answer.

What "government handout"? BUSH gave GM and Chrysler bridge loans at 10%....Obozo extended that into providing enough capital they couldn't get from private sources to survive and save the industry. And now that money has been repaid and GM and Chrysler both are thriving....all they needed to do was even the playing field and now that's happened. Oh, and tell me how happy the Toyoda owners were when their throttles stuck? To this day the jap bastards haven't revealed why that happened...just paid the billion$ in lawsuits and gave us the finger. You can drive anything you want to...okay by me if you don't support fellow American workers....but don't pretend selfishness is the same thing as conservative thought....I buy American.

The industry will survive and survive better without government oversight, over regulation and public handouts. No, I don't support socialism or fascism and your prejudices don't make it look any more attractive.

 

[BullKurtz]

The industry will survive and survive better without government oversight, over regulation and public handouts. No, I don't support socialism or fascism and your prejudices don't make it look any more attractive.

Inane....sorry I wasted time on you.