CDZ Abortion

[jillian]

no. it isn't.

and you are trying to change laws. how about you believe what you want and stay out of other people's business?

ultimately, it isn't about your personal belief system, it's about what government can regulate.

funny how the small gubmint types who cry the minute we actually try to feed one of these children is all about big gubmint when it comes to shoving your personal version of morality up people's butts.

Funny how leftist have no problem believing a man who cuts off his penis and dresses like a women is a "women" but they do have a problem accepting the fact that an unborn baby is actually a human being

which has nothing to do with the discussion.

but nice troll post from the rightwingnut brigade.

It absolutely does, It points out the backwards thinking of you leftist. If not for us"right wingers" you'd still be sucking out the brains of partially born babies. you're sick people

What is sick is people who know nothing about a situation, are willing to accept absolutely no responsibility for a situation, think they have a right to make the decisions for the people involved. Words can not express the contempt I have for those people.

Society is involved with making laws protecting human life..take your contempt and shuv it baby killer.

your particular band of religious belief isn't mine. and it's none of your business.

again, if you gave a damn about "life" you'd care about children being cared for.

you don't. but like all of your other views, it's pure misogyny.

I restate what I said earlier.

you aren't smart enough to make decisions for others.

 

[jillian]

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Perhaps, but let's not be stupid - everyone knows it to be true.

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

women don't make the decisioni to terminate a pregnancy lightly.

again, it's not your place to tell women what to do. luckily the law is that there is a period of time before the governmental interest kicks in.

your personal choices shouldn't govern others.

 

[Bonzi]

Perhaps, but let's not be stupid - everyone knows it to be true.

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

women don't make the decisioni to terminate a pregnancy lightly.

again, it's not your place to tell women what to do. luckily the law is that there is a period of time before the governmental interest kicks in.

your personal choices shouldn't govern others.

The right to human life should come first and foremost.
There are helmet laws to protect people from themselves.
Where are the laws to protect an unborn human life?

 

[jillian]

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

women don't make the decisioni to terminate a pregnancy lightly.

again, it's not your place to tell women what to do. luckily the law is that there is a period of time before the governmental interest kicks in.

your personal choices shouldn't govern others.

The right to human life should come first and foremost.
There are helmet laws to protect people from themselves.
Where are the laws to protect an unborn human life?

when you think "human llife" begins is not when others believe "human life" begins. life exists on a continuum from two cells to a baby. that's was the basis for the decision in roe. governmental rights do not kick in immediately... no matter what your particular brand of religion dictates. women have the right to exercise dominion over their own bodies until that governmental interest kicks in. we are not incubators.

and men have no right to control women in that way. we're perfectly capable of making our own decisions without someone (usually male) trying to shove their brand of "religion" down our throats. .. or into our uteruses.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Perhaps, but let's not be stupid - everyone knows it to be true.

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

 

[Bonzi]

Perhaps, but let's not be stupid - everyone knows it to be true.

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

What I think is that with the legalization of abortion, and it being readily available it has created a situation were women are more likely to "take chances" because they know it can be "taken care of" if anything happens.

 

[Derideo_Te]

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

What I think is that with the legalization of abortion, and it being readily available it has created a situation were women are more likely to "take chances" because they know it can be "taken care of" if anything happens.

What you think is wrong.

Let's examine some more factual data.

New England Journal of Medicine Study on Birth Control in St. Louis The New Republic

New Study Shows Free Birth Control Reduces Abortions

They were young women, 14 to 19 years old, from the St. Louis area. They were at high risk of becoming pregnant themselves and, in fact, some already had. But then they heard about a study, in which they could get birth control and counseling for free. And it wasn’t just any birth control. There was an opportunity to get long-acting forms of birth control, like intrauterine devices, that are effective for several years. Nearly three-fourths of the participants chose the long-acting option and the results were dramatic. Nationally, the pregnancy rate for sexually active young women of that age group is 158.5 (per 1,000 people). The rate among participants in the study was just 34.0.

The new paper is also one more reminder of why the Affordable Care Act's contraception mandate, which requires that all insurance policies pay for birth control without co-payments, is so important. Critics have dismissed its significance, because, they point out, condoms and even hormonal birth control bills are frequently available for very little money. But pills don’t work for everybody andneither method is as reliable as an IUD, which is a lot more expensive. Make it available at no cost, and more people will use it.

The right’s objection to the mandate, of course, is a moral one. Some religious conservatives believe that IUDs are forms of “abortifacients,” even though that's at odds with the available science. (ReadJen Gunter’s primer on this, from a few months ago, if you want a fuller treatment of that question.) They'd prefer the devices not be used and they certainly don't want to pay for them indirectly, whether it's through taxes or through insurance premiums.

But here’s something to consider. Birth control doesn’t simply reduce unwanted pregnancies. It also reduces abortions. In the New England Journal study, the mean abortion rate among participants was less than one-fourth the rate for sexually active 14- to 19-year-old women nationally. That’s a pretty massive difference. Some social conservatives don’t consider that argument relevant, because they think women can and should avoid pregnancy through other methods. To the rest of us, however, those numbers sure look like a powerful case for making birth control free.​

Given the option 75% of that high risk group acted responsibly.

Women don't want to have abortions. They don't want to get pregnant in the first place.

But accidents happen!

Calling women "irresponsible" because there are no infallible means to prevent pregnancy does your position more harm than good.

If you are serious about wanting to reduce abortion you should be supporting Obamacare instead of just vilifying women.

 

[jillian]

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

This information is produced and provided by the National CancerInstitute (NCI). The information in this topic may have changed since it was written. For the most current information, contact the NationalCancer Institute via the Internet web site at http:// cancer .gov or call 1-800-4-CANCER.​

List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

What I think is that with the legalization of abortion, and it being readily available it has created a situation were women are more likely to "take chances" because they know it can be "taken care of" if anything happens.

that's false, as pointed out. in fact, the availability of abortion and increase in education and availability of contraception reduces the rates of abortion.

if the right cared about preventing abortion, you would push for sex ed and contraception. but the right opposes abortion and sex ed and contraception... because you know, women aren't supposed to have sex. and if they do, they're harlots and should be forced to wear a scarlet letter on their heads. short of that, you want to make sure the harlots pay by having unwanted pregnancies.

then you want to make women starve by not providing education and job training and day care for single mothers.

cause that'll teach the harlots to be "responsible" (though the absence of men in this equation is interesting given that a woman can't get pregnant alone).

so tell me where that is pro life as opposed to pro birth.

no one is interested in the right's pro birth anti-women sentiments.

well, except other rightwing religious zealots.

 

[Bonzi]

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

What I think is that with the legalization of abortion, and it being readily available it has created a situation were women are more likely to "take chances" because they know it can be "taken care of" if anything happens.

What you think is wrong.

Let's examine some more factual data.

New England Journal of Medicine Study on Birth Control in St. Louis The New Republic

New Study Shows Free Birth Control Reduces Abortions

They were young women, 14 to 19 years old, from the St. Louis area. They were at high risk of becoming pregnant themselves and, in fact, some already had. But then they heard about a study, in which they could get birth control and counseling for free. And it wasn’t just any birth control. There was an opportunity to get long-acting forms of birth control, like intrauterine devices, that are effective for several years. Nearly three-fourths of the participants chose the long-acting option and the results were dramatic. Nationally, the pregnancy rate for sexually active young women of that age group is 158.5 (per 1,000 people). The rate among participants in the study was just 34.0.

The new paper is also one more reminder of why the Affordable Care Act's contraception mandate, which requires that all insurance policies pay for birth control without co-payments, is so important. Critics have dismissed its significance, because, they point out, condoms and even hormonal birth control bills are frequently available for very little money. But pills don’t work for everybody andneither method is as reliable as an IUD, which is a lot more expensive. Make it available at no cost, and more people will use it.

The right’s objection to the mandate, of course, is a moral one. Some religious conservatives believe that IUDs are forms of “abortifacients,” even though that's at odds with the available science. (ReadJen Gunter’s primer on this, from a few months ago, if you want a fuller treatment of that question.) They'd prefer the devices not be used and they certainly don't want to pay for them indirectly, whether it's through taxes or through insurance premiums.

But here’s something to consider. Birth control doesn’t simply reduce unwanted pregnancies. It also reduces abortions. In the New England Journal study, the mean abortion rate among participants was less than one-fourth the rate for sexually active 14- to 19-year-old women nationally. That’s a pretty massive difference. Some social conservatives don’t consider that argument relevant, because they think women can and should avoid pregnancy through other methods. To the rest of us, however, those numbers sure look like a powerful case for making birth control free.​

Given the option 75% of that high risk group acted responsibly.

Women don't want to have abortions. They don't want to get pregnant in the first place.

But accidents happen!

Calling women "irresponsible" because there are no infallible means to prevent pregnancy does your position more harm than good.

If you are serious about wanting to reduce abortion you should be supporting Obamacare instead of just vilifying women.

My personal opinion is it should only be an option when a Dr. deems it medically necessary taking the woman out of the equation entirely. It's murder (a term used in the Bible so it's not just a legal term), and, unless it's a choice between 2 lives (either the human inside or out) - it should never be done. I don't care what statistics or laws are in place. But, I realize I live in this country (which is waxing worse and worse) and I'm too lazy and uncaring to do anything to change it.

County is on an "anything goes" trend and that combined with our financial dilemma, only spells failure.

How's that for honesty?

 

[Bonzi]

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

What I think is that with the legalization of abortion, and it being readily available it has created a situation were women are more likely to "take chances" because they know it can be "taken care of" if anything happens.

that's false, as pointed out. in fact, the availability of abortion and increase in education and availability of contraception reduces the rates of abortion.

if the right cared about preventing abortion, you would push for sex ed and contraception. but the right opposes abortion and sex ed and contraception... because you know, women aren't supposed to have sex. and if they do, they're harlots and should be forced to wear a scarlet letter on their heads. short of that, you want to make sure the harlots pay by having unwanted pregnancies.

then you want to make women starve by not providing education and job training and day care for single mothers.

cause that'll teach the harlots to be "responsible" (though the absence of men in this equation is interesting given that a woman can't get pregnant alone).

so tell me where that is pro life as opposed to pro birth.

no one is interested in the right's pro birth anti-women sentiments.

well, except other rightwing religious zealots.

I'm a woman, so I'm certainly not "anti-woman" - I'm anti taking any kind of human life form.

 

[Derideo_Te]

My personal opinion is it should only be an option when a Dr. deems it medically necessary taking the woman out of the equation entirely.

You are entitled to your opinion but depriving women of their rights is antithetical to what We the People stand for.

It's murder (a term used in the Bible so it's not just a legal term),

The bible not only condones abortion (your God ordered the Israelites to commit wholesale abortions) but it provides an abortion ritual to follow in the event one of the chosen people wanted to obtain one.

So you are backing the wrong horse if you are using that as a justification for your position.

I don't care what statistics or laws are in place.

You are free to have that opinion but you still fall under the Law of the Land and cannot violate those laws without being held accountable.

County is on an "anything goes" trend and that combined with our financial dilemma, only spells failure.

As I recall that same complaint has been uttered throughout recorded history with the earliest such lament being found inscribed on a clay tablet.

How's that for honesty?

Nothing wrong with expressing your opinions. You are entitled to them however if they don't match up with the facts you have to accept that others have an equal right to expose the fallacies of your opinions. Freedom of expression is a double edged weapon.

 

[Coyote]

She has a right to control any and all decisions regarding her body.

Where is the rights for the other body inside her?

those rights take a back seat to mom's rights.... at least til later in the pregnancy... as set forth in Roe v Wade.

if you have a problem with that, then exercise your right to not avail yourself of the right.

other than that, it's not government's place to butt in... or yours

I'm not trying to change laws.

I just want people to admit that at 5 weeks (or after), when a baby (or fetus) has is developing a heart, organs, features etc. that if you willingly get an abortion, it's murder. That is a living human being inside you.

why admit the obvious ?
you are the only one arguing that.

so if it's killing a human life it's OK because it's legal? I mean, is that how you feel?

You do it all the time with capital punishment.

The idea that a woman has a "right" to abort her child is a belief, therefore under your analogy it is overridden.

She has a right to control any and all decisions regarding her body.

Where is the rights for the other body inside her?

those rights take a back seat to mom's rights.... at least til later in the pregnancy... as set forth in Roe v Wade.

if you have a problem with that, then exercise your right to not avail yourself of the right.

other than that, it's not government's place to butt in... or yours

I'm not trying to change laws.

I just want people to admit that at 5 weeks (or after), when a baby (or fetus) has is developing a heart, organs, features etc. that if you willingly get an abortion, it's murder. That is a living human being inside you.

If the argument is that it's an independent entity - a human being, then 5 weeks makes no difference. It's "murder" from conception.

 

[jillian]

Absolutely!

If men could get pregnant contraception and abortion would be enshrined as constitutional rights and they would be defending those rights with their 2nd amendment firearms.

Oh sure this information is pure. What women is going to say they just didn't us birth control or missed a few days of the pill. most women are going to say they didn't use it and it didn't work to save face.

In other words you are calling the "the vast majority" of women who have abortions "irresponsible", right?

And you are doing so without a single shred of evidence to support that slur on these women.

I am pretty sure that the 61% of women who have abortions and who also have children would be appalled that you called them "irresponsible".

What I think is that with the legalization of abortion, and it being readily available it has created a situation were women are more likely to "take chances" because they know it can be "taken care of" if anything happens.

What you think is wrong.

Let's examine some more factual data.

New England Journal of Medicine Study on Birth Control in St. Louis The New Republic

New Study Shows Free Birth Control Reduces Abortions

They were young women, 14 to 19 years old, from the St. Louis area. They were at high risk of becoming pregnant themselves and, in fact, some already had. But then they heard about a study, in which they could get birth control and counseling for free. And it wasn’t just any birth control. There was an opportunity to get long-acting forms of birth control, like intrauterine devices, that are effective for several years. Nearly three-fourths of the participants chose the long-acting option and the results were dramatic. Nationally, the pregnancy rate for sexually active young women of that age group is 158.5 (per 1,000 people). The rate among participants in the study was just 34.0.

The new paper is also one more reminder of why the Affordable Care Act's contraception mandate, which requires that all insurance policies pay for birth control without co-payments, is so important. Critics have dismissed its significance, because, they point out, condoms and even hormonal birth control bills are frequently available for very little money. But pills don’t work for everybody andneither method is as reliable as an IUD, which is a lot more expensive. Make it available at no cost, and more people will use it.

The right’s objection to the mandate, of course, is a moral one. Some religious conservatives believe that IUDs are forms of “abortifacients,” even though that's at odds with the available science. (ReadJen Gunter’s primer on this, from a few months ago, if you want a fuller treatment of that question.) They'd prefer the devices not be used and they certainly don't want to pay for them indirectly, whether it's through taxes or through insurance premiums.

But here’s something to consider. Birth control doesn’t simply reduce unwanted pregnancies. It also reduces abortions. In the New England Journal study, the mean abortion rate among participants was less than one-fourth the rate for sexually active 14- to 19-year-old women nationally. That’s a pretty massive difference. Some social conservatives don’t consider that argument relevant, because they think women can and should avoid pregnancy through other methods. To the rest of us, however, those numbers sure look like a powerful case for making birth control free.​

Given the option 75% of that high risk group acted responsibly.

Women don't want to have abortions. They don't want to get pregnant in the first place.

But accidents happen!

Calling women "irresponsible" because there are no infallible means to prevent pregnancy does your position more harm than good.

If you are serious about wanting to reduce abortion you should be supporting Obamacare instead of just vilifying women.

My personal opinion is it should only be an option when a Dr. deems it medically necessary taking the woman out of the equation entirely. It's murder (a term used in the Bible so it's not just a legal term), and, unless it's a choice between 2 lives (either the human inside or out) - it should never be done. I don't care what statistics or laws are in place. But, I realize I live in this country (which is waxing worse and worse) and I'm too lazy and uncaring to do anything to change it.

County is on an "anything goes" trend and that combined with our financial dilemma, only spells failure.

How's that for honesty?

that is your "personal opinion". make decisions for yourself. leave the rest of us alone.

 

[Jroc]

Thinking on your own, if you know that at 5 weeks or later that if you have an abortion, you are killing a human life, how can you not feel inside of you that is wrong?

Aside from the fact that you are killing a human life, think of the emotional and psychological damage it has done to millions of women (and men, don't think just because the men don't carry the life, they are not affected).

There are special cases which I won't get into here, but, the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior, and, the legalization of abortion has only enabled more irresponsible behavior.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Perhaps, but let's not be stupid - everyone knows it to be true.

How about looking at the credible facts instead of baseless assumptions?

U.S. National Profile

​

• • In 2011, there were 5.9 million pregnancies to the 62.5 million women of reproductive age (15–44) in the United States. Sixty-seven percent of these pregnancies resulted in live births and 18% in induced abortions.
  • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women—more than three million each year—are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.
  • In 2008, the national unintended pregnancy rate increased to 54 per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, up from 49 in 2001.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are substantially higher among poor and low-income women, minority women, women aged 18–24 and cohabiting women than among other groups.
  • Disparities in unintended pregnancy rates among subgroups of women have persisted over time, and in some cases have increased. As of 2008, poor women with family incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level have rates more than five times the rate of higher income women and two to three times the national rate.
  • Sixty-nine percent of pregnancies among black women, 56% among Hispanic women and 42% among white women are unintended.
  • Unintended pregnancy rates are generally highest in the South and Southwest, and in states with large urban populations.
  • In 2008, 65% of births resulting from unintended pregnancies were publicly funded, compared with 48% of all births and 36% of births resulting from intended pregnancies.
  • Of the two million publicly funded births, 53% resulted from unintended pregnancies, accounting for $12.5 billion in costs—half of the total public expenditures on births.
  • In 2011, 1,058,500 women obtained abortions in the United States, producing a rate of 16.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age. This is a decline of 13% since 2008, when it was 19.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44.
  • Eighty-nine percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
  • Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11% and teens younger than 15 obtain 0.4%.
  • Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.
  • Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
  • Women who have never married and are not cohabiting obtain 45% of all abortions.
  • About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more children.
  • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children; $22,050 for a family of four). Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100–199% of the federal poverty level.
  • In 2011, there were 1,720 abortion providers in the United States. This is virtually unchanged from 2008, when there were 1,793 abortion providers.
  • In 2011, 89% of U.S. counties had no abortion clinic; 38% of women lived in these counties.

Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

Abortion - Reasons Women Choose Abortion​

The decision to continue yourpregnancy or to end it is very personal.

Each year, nearly 1.2 million American women have an abortionto end a pregnancy.2

The most common reasons women consider abortion are:
​

• • Birth control (contraceptive) failure. Over half of all women who have an abortion used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant.2
  • Inability to support or care for a child.
  • To end an unwanted pregnancy.
  • To prevent the birth of a child with birth defects or severe medical problems. Such defects are often unknown until routine second-trimester tests are done.
  • Pregnancy resulting from rape or incest.
  • Physical or mental conditions that endanger the woman's health if the pregnancy is continued.

In the United States, 9 out of 10 abortions are performed in the first 12 weeks (first trimester) of pregnancy. Most of these are done within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy.2

Very few abortions are done after 16 weeks of pregnancy. But some women have to delay abortions because they have trouble with paying for, finding, or traveling to an abortion specialist.

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List the facts above that support your claim that " the vast majority of abortions are done due to irresponsible behavior".

They aren't interested in reality. A bunch of misogynist males who think the harlots should be punished.

Where are they when it comes to daycare, education/job training and everything else that people really need to take care of a child?

They're nowhere because it isn't about "the children". It's about them putting their feet on women's necks. You take away choice, you take away contraception and you end up with women they can batter because they control them economically like they used to

You're still living in the 70s .It's the 21st century join us

 

[Carla_Danger]

It is not murder until it's viable. Until then, it's part of it's mother and her rights supercede the fetus'.

Biologically, it is a separate genetic entity from the mother, and not "her body".

Huh, whaaa?

Okie doke, you can take it. Lets see how well a fetus manages on its own at 12 weeks. If it survives, I'll become an anti-choice activist.

 

[Carla_Danger]

The idea that a woman has a "right" to abort her child is a belief, therefore under your analogy it is overridden.

The rule of law overrides your beliefs. You don't get to force women to "carry your seed". Slavery was outlawed about 150 years ago.

Your law is a belief.

Whereas, the fact a new human being with 46 chromosomes and it's unique dna makeup is created at conception.

at a woman being pregnant being a "slave".

She is if the pregnancy is forced against her will.

She was forced to have sex?

That's none of your business.

 

[Mr. H.]

I see that I've posted in this thread earlier. And I'm pretty sure what that post was.

My question to you all is, should I tell our daughter that our doctor inferred that we should have aborted her?

I'm leaning towards this. Just by way of telling her of our love and commitment to the pregnancy at the time.

 

[D Truth]

Life is defined by protein synthesis.
The baby is alive, as it is reproducing cells (protein synthesis).
The baby is human... it's not a chicken growing in there, it's a human being.
The baby is a distinct human, granted as we all are, dependent on parents for it's childhood. The baby has a unique DNA code from it's mother if you need to be specific.

So the baby is alive, and it is a distinct human being. Pure science that the payed-off idiot Blackmon didn't dare address in his ruling.

You see there is no religion in this statement of fact, only facts.

Now if any XXXXXXX dare respond to this... it is they who will delve into religion as their argument. For the philosophy of "person-hood" is just that, a religious belief espoused by their "population control" high priests of the rotting university. They have not facts, only ramblings of what it "is" to be a person, not biologically, not scientifically, just "philosophically".

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Life is defined by protein synthesis.
The baby is alive, as it is reproducing cells (protein synthesis).
The baby is human... it's not a chicken growing in there, it's a human being.
The baby is a distinct human, granted as we all are, dependent on parents for it's childhood. The baby has a unique DNA code from it's mother if you need to be specific.

So the baby is alive, and it is a distinct human being. Pure science that the payed-off idiot Blackmon didn't dare address in his ruling.

You see there is no religion in this statement of fact, only facts.

Now if any baby hater dare respond to this... it is they who will delve into religion as their argument. For the philosophy of "person-hood" is just that, a religious belief espoused by their "population control" high priests of the rotting university. They have not facts, only ramblings of what it "is" to be a person, not biologically, not scientifically, just "philosophically".

There's also no law in this statement, no citation of a Supreme Court decision overturning Griswold/Eisenstadt/Roe/Casey.

And until such a ruling manifests, this statement is devoid of merit justifying government's desire to violate a woman's protected liberty of choice and fundamental right to privacy.

 

[ABikerSailor]

If they're in the womb, they are citizens and are entitled to every right that the average American enjoys.

If they're out of the womb and either brown, black, red or yellow, they are nothing more than the stereotype that we (as white people) project.

Care for them in the womb, matter of fact, defend their "rights", after they are out of the womb, check their ethnicity, and judge them by what you see.

Pre-born lives matter, those that are born don't.