ACA: Repeal and Delay?

Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

Very few "Responsible Americans" pay 100% of their insurance costs
They expect their employers or the government to help foot the cost

Then they smugly look at those who can't afford it and call them freeloaders and losers
 
That would be political suicide since a lot of Americans would lose their insurance.
Most of whom already qualify for Medicare/Medicaid.

That's bullshit . There's a lot of working people out there that wouldn't qualify .


Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Seriously, liberals are so pathetic. You implemented and delayed, then you have the complete and utter lack of integrity that you would say this? I'm for repealing and ending, not replacing. But how do you look at yourself in a mirror? When you do, can you see yourself?

Health is like education. Every person should have the opportunity for a basic level of both, regardless of his or her ability to pay. Denying either makes no nation stronger.
 
That would be political suicide since a lot of Americans would lose their insurance.
Most of whom already qualify for Medicare/Medicaid.

That's bullshit . There's a lot of working people out there that wouldn't qualify .


Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:

You don't get it do you? When you make special offers to people just with babies, and not everyone, you just encourage people that can't afford to care for those babies to have them in order to get a meal ticket for their own benefits. What's worse? Helping support one poor person? Or helping to support a person with a baby until that kid turns 18?
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
The only paid posters on this website are progressive ones… fact
 
That would be political suicide since a lot of Americans would lose their insurance.
Most of whom already qualify for Medicare/Medicaid.

That's bullshit . There's a lot of working people out there that wouldn't qualify .


Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:

You don't get it do you? When you make special offers to people just with babies, and not everyone, you just encourage people that can't afford to care for those babies to have them in order to get a meal ticket for their own benefits. What's worse? Helping support one poor person? Or helping to support a person with a baby until that kid turns 18?

So you believe that poor people are looking at other people and what they get before deciding whether to have babies on welfare or not when they are getting free shit either way. You actually believe that.

Well, I'll not have babies because everyone else is getting free healthcare too ...

Yeah, that's what they think ...
 
Most of whom already qualify for Medicare/Medicaid.

That's bullshit . There's a lot of working people out there that wouldn't qualify .


Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:

You don't get it do you? When you make special offers to people just with babies, and not everyone, you just encourage people that can't afford to care for those babies to have them in order to get a meal ticket for their own benefits. What's worse? Helping support one poor person? Or helping to support a person with a baby until that kid turns 18?

So you believe that poor people are looking at other people and what they get before deciding whether to have babies on welfare or not when they are getting free shit either way. You actually believe that.

Well, I'll not have babies because everyone else is getting free healthcare too ...

Yeah, that's what they think ...

I live in Kentucky and I've seen it. Before Medicaid expansion to the states, I KNOW people that had kids just so they could get health insurance for themselves. I've also seen people that brag about how much in SNAP benefits they get because of the kids they have... I've seen people plan to have more kids just to get more benefits. It happens all across the country. If you don't think it happens, you are walking around with your eyes closed.
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
The only paid posters on this website are progressive ones… fact


You are already paying for the extreme high costs of medical tests and medication out of your taxes, only thing is you don't get anything back without ACA

Don't you think that we are paying too much money for the top dogs that are scratching the back of those who Do Not have your best interest
They are are not helping you.
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Don't you think the poor people who got Obamacare free should have thought about that before they voted GOP or didn't show up to vote?

Too many poor Americans didn't vote or voted for Republicans so you can not tell me they deserve Obamacare. They are bad citizens who don't matter. Don't vote, don't matter.
 
That's bullshit . There's a lot of working people out there that wouldn't qualify .


Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:

You don't get it do you? When you make special offers to people just with babies, and not everyone, you just encourage people that can't afford to care for those babies to have them in order to get a meal ticket for their own benefits. What's worse? Helping support one poor person? Or helping to support a person with a baby until that kid turns 18?

So you believe that poor people are looking at other people and what they get before deciding whether to have babies on welfare or not when they are getting free shit either way. You actually believe that.

Well, I'll not have babies because everyone else is getting free healthcare too ...

Yeah, that's what they think ...

I live in Kentucky and I've seen it. Before Medicaid expansion to the states, I KNOW people that had kids just so they could get health insurance for themselves. I've also seen people that brag about how much in SNAP benefits they get because of the kids they have... I've seen people plan to have more kids just to get more benefits. It happens all across the country. If you don't think it happens, you are walking around with your eyes closed.

I actually saw a woman in her 40s on welfare who had another baby ,because her kids were growing up...
Things changed and she gets very little money on WF so she has to work....lol
 
That's bullshit . There's a lot of working people out there that wouldn't qualify .


Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:

You don't get it do you? When you make special offers to people just with babies, and not everyone, you just encourage people that can't afford to care for those babies to have them in order to get a meal ticket for their own benefits. What's worse? Helping support one poor person? Or helping to support a person with a baby until that kid turns 18?

So you believe that poor people are looking at other people and what they get before deciding whether to have babies on welfare or not when they are getting free shit either way. You actually believe that.

Well, I'll not have babies because everyone else is getting free healthcare too ...

Yeah, that's what they think ...

I live in Kentucky and I've seen it. Before Medicaid expansion to the states, I KNOW people that had kids just so they could get health insurance for themselves. I've also seen people that brag about how much in SNAP benefits they get because of the kids they have... I've seen people plan to have more kids just to get more benefits. It happens all across the country. If you don't think it happens, you are walking around with your eyes closed.

Anecdotal stories make a terrible argument, and for good reason.

It does happen, but you have the wrong reason. The correct reason is in your story, re-read it after I explain it to you. No one doesn't work because other people do or don't get benefits. They don't work because they get more benefits for not working.

What we absolutely need to do is make sure that no one ever gets more money for not working than working. Welfare should phase out in a way that you always get more total money if you work. The problem is that we have cutoffs for welfare. I had one guy who worked for my business who every period end counted his hours to make sure he didn't exceed the cutoffs. That is flat out stupid.

Now re-read what you wrote. That is what you in your own story pointed out. They did not decide to work because of what anyone else gets, they decided to not work because they got less than if they worked. That is a rational decision, frankly. Democrats know that too, it's how they enslave the poor to vote for them. The last thing a Democrat wants is a poor person to succeed
 
Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
The only paid posters on this website are progressive ones… fact


You are already paying for the extreme high costs of medical tests and medication out of your taxes, only thing is you don't get anything back without ACA

Don't you think that we are paying too much money for the top dogs that are scratching the back of those who Do Not have your best interest
They are are not helping you.
The thing is I don't want any help, I want to pay my own way and not told what to pay for - shit that I will never even use, ever. I have never bought insurance of my life, I'm not about to either.
I own 3S corps and have been self-employed and debt free for 20+ years… I don't need the nanny state obviously.
 
lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
The only paid posters on this website are progressive ones… fact


You are already paying for the extreme high costs of medical tests and medication out of your taxes, only thing is you don't get anything back without ACA

Don't you think that we are paying too much money for the top dogs that are scratching the back of those who Do Not have your best interest
They are are not helping you.
The thing is I don't want any help, I want to pay my own way and not told what to pay for - shit that I will never even use, ever. I have never bought insurance of my life, I'm not about to either.
I own 3S corps and have been self-employed and debt free for 20+ years… I don't need the nanny state obviously.
You don't need insurance? What happens when you get cancer?
 
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
The only paid posters on this website are progressive ones… fact


You are already paying for the extreme high costs of medical tests and medication out of your taxes, only thing is you don't get anything back without ACA

Don't you think that we are paying too much money for the top dogs that are scratching the back of those who Do Not have your best interest
They are are not helping you.
The thing is I don't want any help, I want to pay my own way and not told what to pay for - shit that I will never even use, ever. I have never bought insurance of my life, I'm not about to either.
I own 3S corps and have been self-employed and debt free for 20+ years… I don't need the nanny state obviously.
You don't need insurance? What happens when you get cancer?
Well, you can have all the insurance in the world it won't stop cancer on its own. Dip shit
:itsok:
 
Not to mention, if Republicans want poor people to quit having babies, then they need to quit giving incentives, like free insurance, only to poor people with kids...

:wtf:

So giving healthcare to everyone rather than just people is how you don't support poor people having babies?

:wtf:

Let me explain what I mean by that

:wtf:

You don't get it do you? When you make special offers to people just with babies, and not everyone, you just encourage people that can't afford to care for those babies to have them in order to get a meal ticket for their own benefits. What's worse? Helping support one poor person? Or helping to support a person with a baby until that kid turns 18?

So you believe that poor people are looking at other people and what they get before deciding whether to have babies on welfare or not when they are getting free shit either way. You actually believe that.

Well, I'll not have babies because everyone else is getting free healthcare too ...

Yeah, that's what they think ...

I live in Kentucky and I've seen it. Before Medicaid expansion to the states, I KNOW people that had kids just so they could get health insurance for themselves. I've also seen people that brag about how much in SNAP benefits they get because of the kids they have... I've seen people plan to have more kids just to get more benefits. It happens all across the country. If you don't think it happens, you are walking around with your eyes closed.

Anecdotal stories make a terrible argument, and for good reason.

It does happen, but you have the wrong reason. The correct reason is in your story, re-read it after I explain it to you. No one doesn't work because other people do or don't get benefits. They don't work because they get more benefits for not working.

What we absolutely need to do is make sure that no one ever gets more money for not working than working. Welfare should phase out in a way that you always get more total money if you work. The problem is that we have cutoffs for welfare. I had one guy who worked for my business who every period end counted his hours to make sure he didn't exceed the cutoffs. That is flat out stupid.

Now re-read what you wrote. That is what you in your own story pointed out. They did not decide to work because of what anyone else gets, they decided to not work because they got less than if they worked. That is a rational decision, frankly. Democrats know that too, it's how they enslave the poor to vote for them. The last thing a Democrat wants is a poor person to succeed

No, you are talking about something different than what I am. If you give benefits to the poor people without children as incentives to go back to work, instead of only helping and giving benefits to those with kids, you create an environment where people who can't afford to have children do so. Plain and simple.
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

A post like this one Rustic makes me feel like you are a paid poster, it is also a post of someone without any idea of history and why it was put in place 80 years ago.
The only paid posters on this website are progressive ones… fact
^^^^^ Fake News
 
The GOP has nothing to replace it with. I've even heard they might delay any of the repeal taking effect until after 2020.

The thing is, they have no idea how complicated it really is. Best analogy I heard was - the GOP is like a dog that chased a car and finally got it...now what do they do with it?
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

Even the most responsible people can suffer a catastrophic event and illness that they have no control over and be financially wiped out.
 
Does not seem like a good idea....so they remove all the subsidies....what's going to happen to the people who depend on those to get insurance?

Not to mention - if they want to reinvent the wheel and replace it with a new plan, they don't have enough votes with out Democrats joining in.

Republicans Take The First Step To Repeal Obamacare
Republicans have to use a special legislative maneuver, called a budget resolution, to undo the ACA because they don't have enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. Budget bills aren't subject to filibuster, so lawmakers will be able to repeal the parts of the law that have budget and tax implications.


That means they can essentially gut the law, removing all the subsidies that help low- and middle-income people buy health insurance and getting rid of the smorgasbord of taxes — on medical devices, insurance companies and wealthy individuals — that pay for those subsidies


Enzi's resolution calls on the Senate to get a bill to the Senate Budget Committee by Jan. 27.


Republican lawmakers say they don't want the 20 million people who have newly gained insurance because of the ACA to lose their coverage. So they plan to phase out Obamacare over time while they devise a replacement plan that they say will make affordable health insurance available to everyone, without the much-hated mandate to buy insurance if you don't want it.


Many analysts are skeptical that this "repeal and delay" strategy will work.


"The most likely end result of 'repeal and delay' would be less secure insurance for many Americans, procrastination by political leaders who will delay taking any proactive steps as long as possible, and ultimately no discernible movement toward a real marketplace for either insurance or medical services," said Joe Antos and James Capretta of the conservative American Enterprise Institute in a blog published Tuesday in Health Affairs.

Things were a lot easier when Republicans didn't have to actually DO anything

Sitting on the sidelines harping about the Obamacare Trainwreck made for good media

Now they get stuck with the consequences when they try to dismantle it

lol, it was easier for the RW'ers on USMB too, as their ever increasing volume of floundering posts is making clear.

As I said last week it's going to be fun watching the RWnuts around here try to play defense.
Responsible Americans want no social safety net, it cost too much.
I know it's old fashion at all, why can't people just pay for their own shit and move on with their lives? Progressives have made this country weak... fact

Even the most responsible people can suffer a catastrophic event and illness that they have no control over and be financially wiped out.
Shit happens of course, that does not mean that you should expect the federal government to bail you out of the shit your in.
I rather die than to depend on the nanny state. Depending on the nanny state is no way to live… Fact
 

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