Admitting Putin picked Trump means that USMB Cons would have to admit...

That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.


I picked Trump as the candidate with the best policies way before the wikileaks issue surfaced.

As did the vast majority of trump supporters on this site and in this nation.

So....you're wrong.

Although your insistence is convining, insisting means nothing unless you want to reveal your mind reading techniques.


You said that we were "duped by russian agit prop.


I pointed out that the vast majority of Trump supporters made up their midns before the truth was leaked to the press.


Thus, you are wrong, as our choice was made long before the action you claim caused it.
 
That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.

Admitting that Trump won without Russian Help is for Democrats to simply admit they backed the wrong horse and Hillary really had no chance of winning.

She is an unlikable, corrupt person and most people did not want to see her president.



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That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.


I picked Trump as the candidate with the best policies way before the wikileaks issue surfaced.

As did the vast majority of trump supporters on this site and in this nation.

So....you're wrong.

Although your insistence is convining, insisting means nothing unless you want to reveal your mind reading techniques.


You said that we were "duped by russian agit prop.


I pointed out that the vast majority of Trump supporters made up their midns before the truth was leaked to the press.


Thus, you are wrong, as our choice was made long before the action you claim caused it.

Well I insist you were influenced by Russian agit prop as well as a vast majority.

There, I win.
 
That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.


I picked Trump as the candidate with the best policies way before the wikileaks issue surfaced.

As did the vast majority of trump supporters on this site and in this nation.

So....you're wrong.

Although your insistence is convining, insisting means nothing unless you want to reveal your mind reading techniques.


You said that we were "duped by russian agit prop.


I pointed out that the vast majority of Trump supporters made up their midns before the truth was leaked to the press.


Thus, you are wrong, as our choice was made long before the action you claim caused it.

Well I insist you were influenced by Russian agit prop as well as a vast majority.

There, I win.


My posts on this site, if you wish to go back and search them, are proof that you are full of shit.


I'm not sure what you think you are proving here.

I and the vast majority of Trump supporters were decided long before the leaks.

Your beef, per the op, is with some portion of the late deciders. NONE of whom are likely to be on this site.
 
No you werent, many of you were influenced by Russian propaganda. Maybe you weren't and I'll take your word for it. But I'm not taking your word for a vast majority of people you don't know. Especially when I know they were influenced.

I win.
 
No you werent, many of you were influenced by Russian propaganda. Maybe you weren't and I'll take your word for it. But I'm not taking your word for a vast majority of people you don't know. Especially when I know they were influenced.

I win.


Leaks didn't come out to very late. Considering the crazy shit that the media had put out there about Trump, I would think that anyone who had any real likelyhood of maybe voting for Hillary would have already decided to NOT vote for Trump.

Your focus on the leaks, which didn't seem to get much traction, hell, how often were the details even posted here? seems more a coping mechanism for you than a real issue.
 
Just read the report. A total waste of time. Just more political BS and clap trap. NO PROOF AT ALL. It did confirm that The RaTz are just as corrupt as their emails demonstrated them to be.
Yeah, RIGHT!

"Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections
ICA 2017-01D
6 January 2017

Key Judgments
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments."
~~ Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections | Wiki Leaks ~~

"

Maybe you should also read what they say about high confidence in appendix B:

High confidence in a judgment does not imply that the assessment is a fact or a certainty; Such judgments may be wrong.

I'm surprised that they didn't cite The Gay Teen Hotline as a source.

ROFLMAO
 
Nope, and just because you want to cover your sudden love for other nations spying on the U.S. we both know this is the way you cope with being conned.

The DNC is a private organization. Hacking it does not constitute spring on the united states.

And assuming Russia is behind the wikileak drops, how exactly does Russia con someone by releasing accurate information?

That's another stupid thing about the left's claims. The Russians allegedly hacked into Podesta and Hillary's private emails. But they are screaming about it as if they had hacked into the Pentagon itself. Hell, John Posestra's email password was "password" for fuck's sake.

I can't wait to hear your excuses on why them hacking Republicans and power grid computer's is also not enough of a big deal for you.

Its ALL good..whatever it is.

You butthurt fool. There's no evidence at all that the Russians can hack into our power grid. It was a private email with a password a two year old might make. This is all ignorant left wing butthurt. This is why the American people took you idiots out of power. Well, one of many reasons.

Wow, no matter what I say you'll change it to something else. I say a power grids computer and you hear "they hacked our power grid". I say Republicans and demo were hacked and you hear "Democrats only". I say everyone who's seen it agree Russia hacked us and you hear "Only liberals say they hacked our election machines"

It's funny, you think that your misrepresentations are a response to anything I'm saying.

It's funny that you pretend that isn't what you were saying and think we buy it.
 
The DNC is a private organization. Hacking it does not constitute spring on the united states.

And assuming Russia is behind the wikileak drops, how exactly does Russia con someone by releasing accurate information?

That's another stupid thing about the left's claims. The Russians allegedly hacked into Podesta and Hillary's private emails. But they are screaming about it as if they had hacked into the Pentagon itself. Hell, John Posestra's email password was "password" for fuck's sake.

I can't wait to hear your excuses on why them hacking Republicans and power grid computer's is also not enough of a big deal for you.

Its ALL good..whatever it is.

You butthurt fool. There's no evidence at all that the Russians can hack into our power grid. It was a private email with a password a two year old might make. This is all ignorant left wing butthurt. This is why the American people took you idiots out of power. Well, one of many reasons.

Wow, no matter what I say you'll change it to something else. I say a power grids computer and you hear "they hacked our power grid". I say Republicans and demo were hacked and you hear "Democrats only". I say everyone who's seen it agree Russia hacked us and you hear "Only liberals say they hacked our election machines"

It's funny, you think that your misrepresentations are a response to anything I'm saying.

It's funny that you pretend that isn't what you were saying and think we buy it.

I just told you what I'm talking about. Your only response is to claim that you know what I really mean.

You can't debate me so you're tempting to debate what you think I mean. Beat that strawman good:2up:
 
That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.
Actually, it means you should produce some evidence!

Asking for evidence is the same as you claiming the emails uncovered "corruption". No matter how much evidence you get, you'll ask for more pretending there is something missing that would convice you.

Now you have the Intel report which you begged for. And you think saying it doesn't exist, you think, means something.
Former CIA director on face the nation claims there is no evidence in the released report! So bubkis where are you getting yours?
 
That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.
Dork
 
That's another stupid thing about the left's claims. The Russians allegedly hacked into Podesta and Hillary's private emails. But they are screaming about it as if they had hacked into the Pentagon itself. Hell, John Posestra's email password was "password" for fuck's sake.

I can't wait to hear your excuses on why them hacking Republicans and power grid computer's is also not enough of a big deal for you.

Its ALL good..whatever it is.

You butthurt fool. There's no evidence at all that the Russians can hack into our power grid. It was a private email with a password a two year old might make. This is all ignorant left wing butthurt. This is why the American people took you idiots out of power. Well, one of many reasons.

Wow, no matter what I say you'll change it to something else. I say a power grids computer and you hear "they hacked our power grid". I say Republicans and demo were hacked and you hear "Democrats only". I say everyone who's seen it agree Russia hacked us and you hear "Only liberals say they hacked our election machines"

It's funny, you think that your misrepresentations are a response to anything I'm saying.

It's funny that you pretend that isn't what you were saying and think we buy it.

I just told you what I'm talking about. Your only response is to claim that you know what I really mean.

You can't debate me so you're tempting to debate what you think I mean. Beat that strawman good:2up:
Debate you? Hahahaha
 
Why would you ask for a piece of evidence to something we aren't talking about?
Because that's the accusation! That's the reason for the witch hunt!

Here, how would you describe a hack against a political opponent aimed at influencing the outcome??

I'll let you choose any words you want but I, nor anyone else, is claiming votes were hacked. And you know it.
Ok, then how did they influence an election again, the accusation. But see, I said no one hacked jack. It was leaked! Know that term?


Was it wrong when Deepthroat leaked bad shit about Nixon? Or was that different for some reason?

Why do you ask when we're discussing cyber espionage? Do you wish we were talking about the positives and negatives of leaks?
Well again there was no hack. DNC server was never looked at by the FBI. Period bubkis
 
What exactly did Putin reveal about Hillary that damaged her chances for the presidency? Did he invent the "Crooked Hillary" appellation?


DECLASSIFIED: Read the intelligence report on Russia interfering with US election

No but Trump used all the information and touted it...but now he says it had no effect which means he quoted wikileaks, asked Russia to hack Hillary and suddenly loved Russia all for "no reason". Becausewe all do things for no reason, right?

:9:
Noli equi dentes inspicere donati.
 
Because that's the accusation! That's the reason for the witch hunt!

Here, how would you describe a hack against a political opponent aimed at influencing the outcome??

I'll let you choose any words you want but I, nor anyone else, is claiming votes were hacked. And you know it.
Ok, then how did they influence an election again, the accusation. But see, I said no one hacked jack. It was leaked! Know that term?


Was it wrong when Deepthroat leaked bad shit about Nixon? Or was that different for some reason?

Why do you ask when we're discussing cyber espionage? Do you wish we were talking about the positives and negatives of leaks?
Well again there was no hack. DNC server was never looked at by the FBI. Period bubkis

Saying there wasn't a hack means nothing when now we have the evidence....just like you asked for. Of course, now that you have what you asked you now of course you want something else. THEN you'll believe it.

But of course you believing something has no effect on reality.
 
No you werent, many of you were influenced by Russian propaganda. Maybe you weren't and I'll take your word for it. But I'm not taking your word for a vast majority of people you don't know. Especially when I know they were influenced.

I win.


Leaks didn't come out to very late. Considering the crazy shit that the media had put out there about Trump, I would think that anyone who had any real likelyhood of maybe voting for Hillary would have already decided to NOT vote for Trump.

Your focus on the leaks, which didn't seem to get much traction, hell, how often were the details even posted here? seems more a coping mechanism for you than a real issue.

Oh so when Trump kept bringing up the hacked info you're saying he did it for no reason :badgrin: and then to get even more stupid you're saying no one on this site posted that information either? Lmao...
 
That's they were duped with Russian agit prop. They fell for the hustle so now they are forced to either be even more supportive of Trump and Putin, pretend it's not a big deal (feelings debate), or they would have to admit to being fools.

So when you wonder why the cons suddenly see Russia as a force of good...it's simply a cover for being stupid enough to fall for it.


I picked Trump as the candidate with the best policies way before the wikileaks issue surfaced.

As did the vast majority of trump supporters on this site and in this nation.

So....you're wrong.

Although your insistence is convining, insisting means nothing unless you want to reveal your mind reading techniques.


You said that we were "duped by russian agit prop.


I pointed out that the vast majority of Trump supporters made up their midns before the truth was leaked to the press.


Thus, you are wrong, as our choice was made long before the action you claim caused it.

Well I insist you were influenced by Russian agit prop as well as a vast majority.

There, I win.
Ewww you insist!!
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No you werent, many of you were influenced by Russian propaganda. Maybe you weren't and I'll take your word for it. But I'm not taking your word for a vast majority of people you don't know. Especially when I know they were influenced.

I win.


Leaks didn't come out to very late. Considering the crazy shit that the media had put out there about Trump, I would think that anyone who had any real likelyhood of maybe voting for Hillary would have already decided to NOT vote for Trump.

Your focus on the leaks, which didn't seem to get much traction, hell, how often were the details even posted here? seems more a coping mechanism for you than a real issue.

Oh so when Trump kept bringing up the hacked info you're saying he did it for no reason :badgrin: and then to get even more stupid you're saying no one on this site posted that information either? Lmao...
Huh?
 
No you werent, many of you were influenced by Russian propaganda. Maybe you weren't and I'll take your word for it. But I'm not taking your word for a vast majority of people you don't know. Especially when I know they were influenced.

I win.
Well it was more accurate than MSM prop you followed.

I'd say you should be concerned with what was revealed in those leaks
 
Here, how would you describe a hack against a political opponent aimed at influencing the outcome??

I'll let you choose any words you want but I, nor anyone else, is claiming votes were hacked. And you know it.
Ok, then how did they influence an election again, the accusation. But see, I said no one hacked jack. It was leaked! Know that term?


Was it wrong when Deepthroat leaked bad shit about Nixon? Or was that different for some reason?

Why do you ask when we're discussing cyber espionage? Do you wish we were talking about the positives and negatives of leaks?
Well again there was no hack. DNC server was never looked at by the FBI. Period bubkis

Saying there wasn't a hack means nothing when now we have the evidence....just like you asked for. Of course, now that you have what you asked you now of course you want something else. THEN you'll believe it.

But of course you believing something has no effect on reality.
You have no evidence. Sorry pal. If there is any evidence of anything it's with the intelligence not you. So again what is your evidence?
 

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