Afghanistan: Another Diplomat Murdered In Attack By Radicals

[Sunni Man]

Yes, it's our fault for putting ourselves out there so angry bigots can kill us.

Blaming the victim in a murder case are we?

It wasn't a murder.

She was traveling in a war zone and escorted by military personnel.

Basically, a casualty of war. ..

Who declared war? Not us. Bushwhacking aid workers and diplomats is murder.

Suppose we just decided to kill every non-christian in America or targeted every foreign national who made the mistake of wandering around our streets. Do you think that's okay? I don't.

Apples to oranges.

The diplomat was part of a foreign occupation force.

Thus she was fair game to those who want to free their country from invaders. ..

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It was the diplomat's own fault for putting herself and others in harms way.

She was try to help and promote a girl's only school in a culture that doesn't want it.

Just another western busy body/do-gooder that thought she knew whats best for other people. .

Wrong, Sunni man. She was over there helping a girls school because the girls wanted this education - they needed it and they were overjoyed to have her there. The women in Afghanistan deserve an education just as much as women in the West.

This culture you say that doesn't want education for girls? That is the mindset of the Taliban. No school for women, keep that burka over them and don't let them out of your sight. Here's a news flash for you: These women can make up their own minds about whether or not they need an education. Weren't you on here yesterday telling me what a staunch supporter of the US Constitution you were? Equal rights? What happened to that?!

Afghanistan is mentioned and suddenly you are back in the stone ages again concerning womens rights! If you believe in freedom, Sunni man, as you claim to believe in it, you would celebrate these girls getting an education. - Jeri

 

[Sallow]

Yes, it's our fault for putting ourselves out there so angry bigots can kill us.

Blaming the victim in a murder case are we?

It wasn't a murder.

She was traveling in a war zone and escorted by military personnel.

Basically, a casualty of war. ..

Who declared war? Not us. Bushwhacking aid workers and diplomats is murder.

Suppose we just decided to kill every non-christian in America or targeted every foreign national who made the mistake of wandering around our streets. Do you think that's okay? I don't.

Seriously dude.

Give it up.

The US invaded Afghanistan.

Had Afghanistan invaded the US..there would be alot of dead Afghan diplomats.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It wasn't a murder.

She was traveling in a war zone and escorted by military personnel.

Basically, a casualty of war. ..

Who declared war? Not us. Bushwhacking aid workers and diplomats is murder.

Suppose we just decided to kill every non-christian in America or targeted every foreign national who made the mistake of wandering around our streets. Do you think that's okay? I don't.

Apples to oranges.

The diplomat was part of a foreign occupation force.

Thus she was fair game to those who want to free their country from invaders. ..

Interesting choice of words. I didn't know that educators of women were considered invaders. I would think they would be called "liberators"! Does the idea of liberation for women frighten you, Sunni man?

 

[Sallow]

It was the diplomat's own fault for putting herself and others in harms way.

She was try to help and promote a girl's only school in a culture that doesn't want it.

Just another western busy body/do-gooder that thought she knew whats best for other people. .

Wrong, Sunni man. She was over there helping a girls school because the girls wanted this education - they needed it and they were overjoyed to have her there. The women in Afghanistan deserve an education just as much as women in the West.

This culture you say that doesn't want education for girls? That is the mindset of the Taliban. No school for women, keep that burka over them and don't let them out of your sight. Here's a news flash for you: These women can make up their own minds about whether or not they need an education. Weren't you on here yesterday telling me what a staunch supporter of the US Constitution you were? Equal rights? What happened to that?!

Afghanistan is mentioned and suddenly you are back in the stone ages again concerning womens rights! If you believe in freedom, Sunni man, as you claim to believe in it, you would celebrate these girls getting an education. - Jeri

Seriously.

What right do you have to tell people in other countries how to conduct their internal business?

Other than the biggest military in the world.

Because if you are going with that..take a look at the fate of every empire on the planet.

 

[Sallow]

Who declared war? Not us. Bushwhacking aid workers and diplomats is murder.

Suppose we just decided to kill every non-christian in America or targeted every foreign national who made the mistake of wandering around our streets. Do you think that's okay? I don't.

Apples to oranges.

The diplomat was part of a foreign occupation force.

Thus she was fair game to those who want to free their country from invaders. ..

Interesting choice of words. I didn't know that educators of women were considered invaders. I would think they would be called "liberators"! Does the idea of liberation for women frighten you, Sunni man?

Who were they "liberated" from? The Taliban?

You do know the Taliban is the result of US involvement in Afghanistan, right?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Here's a news flash for you.

America is a progressive nation. Always has been.

It's conservatism that's alien here.

A nation like Afghanistan? That's the result of conservatives.

News Flash for you.
Progressivism did not start till the early 1900's and conservatives out number progressives.

The Constitution is a liberal and very progressive document.

And conservatives DO NOT outnumber liberals in this country.

Because if you folks actually felt that way, the electoral college would be history. And it would be mandatory..and extremely easy to vote in elections.

I believe conservatives MUST outnumber liberals in this country. I saw a poll yesterday on same sex marriage. Over a million people polled so far I believe. The poll results showed 67% of Americans are opposed to same sex marriage. 67%. I believe conservatives do outnumber liberals in America and the numbers are growing because they realise that something is seriously wrong with America since Obama took office. I expect 2014 will be huge win for GOP. HUGE. - Jeri

 

[Katzndogz]

This girl must have turned down some very powerful politician who wanted to get in her pants because assigning her to Afghanistan broke every rule in the book. Too young, too inexperienced, they don't get posts in war zones.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Apples to oranges.

The diplomat was part of a foreign occupation force.

Thus she was fair game to those who want to free their country from invaders. ..

Interesting choice of words. I didn't know that educators of women were considered invaders. I would think they would be called "liberators"! Does the idea of liberation for women frighten you, Sunni man?

Who were they "liberated" from? The Taliban?

You do know the Taliban is the result of US involvement in Afghanistan, right?

Wrong question. What were they liberated from. Not who. They were liberated from the ignorance of believing that they were less important than the males in their society. Through education they are liberated from dependency on others, they can make their own living, they can pursue a career, move to the USA and begin their own life. Operative word here being "THEIR OWN LIFE". Women are not property or chattel, Sunni man. As an american man I'd expect you to understand that. No matter where you are on the geography map. - Jeri

 

[mudwhistle]

It wasn't a murder.

She was traveling in a war zone and escorted by military personnel.

Basically, a casualty of war. ..

Who declared war? Not us. Bushwhacking aid workers and diplomats is murder.

Suppose we just decided to kill every non-christian in America or targeted every foreign national who made the mistake of wandering around our streets. Do you think that's okay? I don't.

Apples to oranges.

The diplomat was part of a foreign occupation force.

Thus she was fair game to those who want to free their country from invaders. ..

A 'Foreign Occupation Force' that is trying to stop Saturday afternoon beheadings that were happening under the Taliban. Trying to rid a poor country of a brutal totalitarian regime.

Yes we deserve to be killed for trying to give the people of Afghanistan choices in their lives........for giving them a chance to control their own futures rather than bend to the will of extremists.

Seems to me the people of Afghanistan want to be under somebody's thumb. It's the only way they feel comfortable. We should have been out of there years ago, but for some reason the left feels this is the good war.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Another US diplomat has been killed yet unless you were watching Fox News you wouldn't know it. NBC is still focusing on grabbing guns and MSNBC is talking about Obamas idea to spend $100 million to map the brain.

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No mention of N Korea ether. John Kerry was on the job mentioning how hot the dead diplomat was, a beautiful 25 year old woman, but no mention of going after the attackers.

Obama's senior advisor was on Sunday Fox with Chris Wallace talking about grabbing guns again. They want to force background checks at every level, government fees will be charged even if you're selling them out of the trunk of your Elantra. Try enforcing that one.

Seems the only thing Obama is interested in doing is taking our guns and brain-mapping. The safety of our troops and diplomats is nonexistent and our national security isn't even considered. Oh, and jobs. Fuck that. Obama has a comprehensive program of tax and spend to take care of that. All of the 53 million on food stamps that noticed a sharp reduction in their benefits will be thrilled to know Obama's on the job. Good Times folks.

Obama is releasing his budget and as predicted it includes an attack on the rich. He wants to change IRA rules so rich people can't save as much. Guess they'll have to send it to Cypress instead. One of these days Obama might learn that laws aren't supposed to be political tools or used to punish those whom you despise.

I thought they beheaded them in a video. Maybe that was a different group. - Jeri

 

[mudwhistle]

This girl must have turned down some very powerful politician who wanted to get in her pants because assigning her to Afghanistan broke every rule in the book. Too young, too inexperienced, they don't get posts in war zones.

Well, this is an example of the left trying to force change on those who do not want change. Sort of like putting a woman head of the State Department knowing the taboo that exists in the Middle East against female leaders.

 

[Sallow]

News Flash for you.
Progressivism did not start till the early 1900's and conservatives out number progressives.

The Constitution is a liberal and very progressive document.

And conservatives DO NOT outnumber liberals in this country.

Because if you folks actually felt that way, the electoral college would be history. And it would be mandatory..and extremely easy to vote in elections.

I believe conservatives MUST outnumber liberals in this country. I saw a poll yesterday on same sex marriage. Over a million people polled so far I believe. The poll results showed 67% of Americans are opposed to same sex marriage. 67%. I believe conservatives do outnumber liberals in America and the numbers are growing because they realise that something is seriously wrong with America since Obama took office. I expect 2014 will be huge win for GOP. HUGE. - Jeri

Generally..when you post something like this you should back it up with a link.

Secondly..that's not what the polls are saying about 2014. Republicans are even recognizing this. Which is why they are trying like the dickens to make it harder to vote.

 

[Sallow]

Interesting choice of words. I didn't know that educators of women were considered invaders. I would think they would be called "liberators"! Does the idea of liberation for women frighten you, Sunni man?

Who were they "liberated" from? The Taliban?

You do know the Taliban is the result of US involvement in Afghanistan, right?

Wrong question. What were they liberated from. Not who. They were liberated from the ignorance of believing that they were less important than the males in their society. Through education they are liberated from dependency on others, they can make their own living, they can pursue a career, move to the USA and begin their own life. Operative word here being "THEIR OWN LIFE". Women are not property or chattel, Sunni man. As an american man I'd expect you to understand that. No matter where you are on the geography map. - Jeri

You're something else.

The Taliban were put into place by America. They were the first "liberators". The only reason America started paying any attention to them, was because they were hosting Al Qaeda camps dedicated to training nuts to attack this country.

Prior to that there were all sorts of human rights organizations pleading that something be done about them. I remember seeing a French Documentary that showed them killing women in a soccer stadium.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Taliban was not put in place by America. We supported the mujahadeen, not the Taliban. The side we supported against the Russians was the same Northern Alliance that we supported against Saddam Hussien. What happened was that when the Russians left, the mujahadeen thought they won and went back to their villages leaving a void that the Taliban took advantage of.

We made a mistake in Afghanistan the first time. We supported the Afghans against the Russians and let the Afghans imagine that we would be there for them after the war was over. What happened was that we promptly abandoned the country to whatever cruel fate awaited it. The Taliban moved in and the United States said tsk tsk too bad for you. That's why we didn't leave this time and elected to put a stable government in place. Right up until obama was elected. His loyalty is to Al Aqaeda.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Constitution is a liberal and very progressive document.

And conservatives DO NOT outnumber liberals in this country.

Because if you folks actually felt that way, the electoral college would be history. And it would be mandatory..and extremely easy to vote in elections.

I believe conservatives MUST outnumber liberals in this country. I saw a poll yesterday on same sex marriage. Over a million people polled so far I believe. The poll results showed 67% of Americans are opposed to same sex marriage. 67%. I believe conservatives do outnumber liberals in America and the numbers are growing because they realise that something is seriously wrong with America since Obama took office. I expect 2014 will be huge win for GOP. HUGE. - Jeri

Generally..when you post something like this you should back it up with a link.

Secondly..that's not what the polls are saying about 2014. Republicans are even recognizing this. Which is why they are trying like the dickens to make it harder to vote.

Republicans have no problem with allowing everyone a chance to vote, they just have a problem with somebody voting numerous times in college campuses and in Democrat heavy districts.
They have a problem with busloads of Somalis showing up in Ohio to vote not being able to speak English.
They have a problem with vote farming in rest-homes and mental institutions.
They have a problem with same-day registration without actual verification of residency.
They have a problem with voters that can get a debit card to buy food but can't get an I.D. with a picture of the voter on it.
They have a problem with rigged voting machines that changes your vote once you vote for the wrong candidate.
They have a problem with Democrat poll workers kicking GOP poll-watchers out of the building so they can count absentee ballots they pulled out of a van.
They have a problem with non-residents voting absentee in several states.
They have a problem with the failure by the Obama Administration to assure that every soldier stationed overseas got a chance to cast a ballot.
They have a problem with Democrats that want to give illegal aliens a driver's license and registering them to vote at the same time.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Constitution is a liberal and very progressive document.

And conservatives DO NOT outnumber liberals in this country.

Because if you folks actually felt that way, the electoral college would be history. And it would be mandatory..and extremely easy to vote in elections.

I believe conservatives MUST outnumber liberals in this country. I saw a poll yesterday on same sex marriage. Over a million people polled so far I believe. The poll results showed 67% of Americans are opposed to same sex marriage. 67%. I believe conservatives do outnumber liberals in America and the numbers are growing because they realise that something is seriously wrong with America since Obama took office. I expect 2014 will be huge win for GOP. HUGE. - Jeri

Generally..when you post something like this you should back it up with a link.

Secondly..that's not what the polls are saying about 2014. Republicans are even recognizing this. Which is why they are trying like the dickens to make it harder to vote.

It is at the top of the board here on US MESSAGE BOARD. It is a Poll that appears and says Do you believe in Same sex marriage. Take the poll and then look at results and you can see it for yourself. If I could take the poll twice I could copy and paste the results over here. Maybe you can do that for us? Last poll result was 67% against same sex marriage. - Jeri

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Does anyone know what the government is saying about how this diplomat was murdered? I hear there is some dispute about how she died. - J.

 

[Sallow]

I believe conservatives MUST outnumber liberals in this country. I saw a poll yesterday on same sex marriage. Over a million people polled so far I believe. The poll results showed 67% of Americans are opposed to same sex marriage. 67%. I believe conservatives do outnumber liberals in America and the numbers are growing because they realise that something is seriously wrong with America since Obama took office. I expect 2014 will be huge win for GOP. HUGE. - Jeri

Generally..when you post something like this you should back it up with a link.

Secondly..that's not what the polls are saying about 2014. Republicans are even recognizing this. Which is why they are trying like the dickens to make it harder to vote.

Republicans have no problem with allowing everyone a chance to vote, they just have a problem with somebody voting numerous times in college campuses and in Democrat heavy districts.
They have a problem with busloads of Somalis showing up in Ohio to vote not being able to speak English.
They have a problem with vote farming in rest-homes and mental institutions.
They have a problem with same-day registration without actual verification of residency. They have a problem with voters that can get a debit card to buy food but can't get an I.D. with a picture of the voter on it.
They have a problem with rigging voting machines that allow you to vote for only one candidate and it changes your vote once you vote for the wrong candidate.
They have a problem with Democrat poll workers kicking GOP poll-watchers out of the building so they can count absentee ballots they pulled out of a van.
They have a problem with non-residents voting absentee in several states.
They have a problem with the failure by the Obama Administration to assure that every soldier stationed overseas got a chance to cast a ballot.

Oh gosh..really?

 

[mudwhistle]

The Taliban was not put in place by America. We supported the mujahadeen, not the Taliban. The side we supported against the Russians was the same Northern Alliance that we supported against Saddam Hussien. What happened was that when the Russians left, the mujahadeen thought they won and went back to their villages leaving a void that the Taliban took advantage of.

We made a mistake in Afghanistan the first time. We supported the Afghans against the Russians and let the Afghans imagine that we would be there for them after the war was over. What happened was that we promptly abandoned the country to whatever cruel fate awaited it. The Taliban moved in and the United States said tsk tsk too bad for you. That's why we didn't leave this time and elected to put a stable government in place. Right up until obama was elected. His loyalty is to Al Aqaeda.

Personally I could give a flying-fuck right now.

I don't really care what happens to them because regardless what we do they will resent us. That is inherent in every Islamic society. The lack of appreciation when given aid.

Give any man free never ending support and he will learn to resent you.