After what the stupid party did in Colorado, they will soon be history.

[Spare_change]

CO voters didn't get to pick the candidate and you can spin it to become so.

Neither did the voters in Nevada or Hawaii. In Florida, Trump got 45% of the vote but 100% of the delegates. How was that fair? In Ohio, Kasich got 47% of the vote but 100% of the delegates and he can't even win the nomination. How is that fair?

But Cruz got 0% of the vote in Co. and 100% of the Delegates. You are comparing apples and oranges. In the states you mentioned the voters voted, their votes counted. In Co. they didn't.

Wrong ---- but then, a little bit of ignorance goes a long way.

 

[Boss]

You have two choices .... the Republican or the Democrat.

Anything else is a waste of time and vote. Nobody says you have to love the candidate, but you should pick the one most closely aligned with your political beliefs. Vote for Hillary if you're so upset about Trump .... but don't waste your vote. That's just plain silly.

Nope. I have the choice to conscientiously object and not vote. That might result in Hillary winning. If Donald Trump is who the Republicans pick as their candidate, I am probably staying at home. I agree that I should vote for whomever aligns most closely with my political views but my political views will not be represented by either of the parties if Trump is the nominee. You see... smearing, sliming and sleazing around like a Saul Alinsky liberal is not conducive with my political views. I will not associate my name and reputation with Donald Trump by voting for him. I don't really care if you think that is silly... it's not up to you.

Trump could have easily won me over. I was prepared to support him if he won the nomination... go look up the many threads I posted to this effect. I was willing to overlook many of his shortcomings because I felt he would have been a better choice than the Democrat. My views have now changed. I don't think he would be better, I think he might actually be worse. At least, for constitutional conservatism. If he is going to set back the progress conservatives have made in recent years, I don't want him to win. I think he is too petty and divisive, he likes to denigrate and insult people who don't agree with him, he's a class A jerk and a caustic blowhole. He is also all over the board on his personal views, so I don't honestly know what he really believes. I don't trust him, I think he is pumping us full of bullshit to win.

So... Maybe what we need is 4 more years of goofy liberal policies and judicial nominations? Maybe we need our tax rates raised to ungodly levels? Maybe we need Socialist policies to kill more jobs and destroy more free market capitalism? Then, perhaps Americans can coalesce around a principled Conservative and we can begin to bring our country back?

 

[JoeB131]

You really think the smart Presidents believed in Magic Sky Fairies and Talking Snakes? Naw man, they were just telling you RUBES that. Then they'd go off and fuck their mistresses.

Only about 5% of the human species doesn't believe in something greater than self. You're with the Neanderthals... not my prob.

95% of the population used to think the world was flat. 95% of the population used to think the Earth went around the sun.

So, um where is your evidence that there's a magic Pixie in the sky?

And if your Magic Pixie in the Sky is Real, then why does only 31% of the Global Population believe in your Sky Pixie, the Naked Zombie on a Stick? So if you believe your sky pixie is real, then obviously, all the other sky pixies must be false.

There's a whole shitload of Gods you don't believe in - Allah, Krishna, Amaterasu, Zeus, Odin, Ahura-Mazda....

I just believe in one less than you do.

 

[Boss]

95% of the population used to think the world was flat. 95% of the population used to think the Earth went around the sun

Yeah, and 95% still believe in a power greater than self. Amazing, huh?

 

[Boss]

So, um where is your evidence that there's a magic Pixie in the sky?

Everywhere and nowhere.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

And show me your links about the DNC stealing the nomination from Bernie.

Bernie seems to be doing just fine. Waaaaay better than expected. You want to see something the Democrats have that the GOP doesn't?

Colorado Caucus Election Results

What I want to see is you calling out Hillary for her cheating; otherwise you're just a cherry picking asshole.

You want to know how much I care about Hillary? I spend zero seconds of my day thinking about Hillary. I have 2 priorities for this election. Convincing people that Cruz is a lying, cheating asshole lunatic (which he is); and convincing people that supporting Sanders, an open and unapologetic communist is a disaster for this country.

If it's Trump vs. Hillary I can stay home and laugh and laugh and laugh. If it's Cruz vs. Sanders then it's time to start thinking maybe the crazies are right and the country really is lost.

HIllary and Cruz are virtually the same person.

Now THAT is a relevatory remark .... it clearly shows you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

It shows I don't buy into the token talk. Both candidates are plutocrats.

 

[Spare_change]

You have two choices .... the Republican or the Democrat.

Anything else is a waste of time and vote. Nobody says you have to love the candidate, but you should pick the one most closely aligned with your political beliefs. Vote for Hillary if you're so upset about Trump .... but don't waste your vote. That's just plain silly.

Nope. I have the choice to conscientiously object and not vote. That might result in Hillary winning. If Donald Trump is who the Republicans pick as their candidate, I am probably staying at home. I agree that I should vote for whomever aligns most closely with my political views but my political views will not be represented by either of the parties if Trump is the nominee. You see... smearing, sliming and sleazing around like a Saul Alinsky liberal is not conducive with my political views. I will not associate my name and reputation with Donald Trump by voting for him. I don't really care if you think that is silly... it's not up to you.

Trump could have easily won me over. I was prepared to support him if he won the nomination... go look up the many threads I posted to this effect. I was willing to overlook many of his shortcomings because I felt he would have been a better choice than the Democrat. My views have now changed. I don't think he would be better, I think he might actually be worse. At least, for constitutional conservatism. If he is going to set back the progress conservatives have made in recent years, I don't want him to win. I think he is too petty and divisive, he likes to denigrate and insult people who don't agree with him, he's a class A jerk and a caustic blowhole. He is also all over the board on his personal views, so I don't honestly know what he really believes. I don't trust him, I think he is pumping us full of bullshit to win.

So... Maybe what we need is 4 more years of goofy liberal policies and judicial nominations? Maybe we need our tax rates raised to ungodly levels? Maybe we need Socialist policies to kill more jobs and destroy more free market capitalism? Then, perhaps Americans can coalesce around a principled Conservative and we can begin to bring our country back?

Stay home, if you wish ... it reflects your commitment to this country and its future.

"If you don't let me win, I'm going to take my ball and go home."

 

[JoeB131]

95% of the population used to think the world was flat. 95% of the population used to think the Earth went around the sun

Yeah, and 95% still believe in a power greater than self. Amazing, huh?

Only 31% believe in Naked Zombie on a Stick. Why did you avoid that point. If Naked Zombie on the Stick is the Greater power, why isn't that 95%?

(I also doubt that the number is 95%. "Greater Power" sounds like something they say at your Court Mandated AA Meeting after you ran over Billy-Bob's Pig on your way after work at the Toxic Waste Dump.)

 

[JoeB131]

So, um where is your evidence that there's a magic Pixie in the sky?

Everywhere and nowhere.

MOre like nowhere...

So who created God?

 

[Iceweasel]

It is true that there is no restriction placed on the delegates - conceivably, they could present themselves as Trump supporters and then vote for Cruz, but that is highly unlikely. Coloradans are reputable and honest - and if we say it, we mean it. This isn't New York - we don't need a contract to force us to do the right thing. A man's word is good enough for us.

You are full of shit. They all went for Cruz and you want people to believe they just happen to come to the same opinion? LOL

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm fine with that. Trump would still win the plurality. Now, stfu, hack.

But plurality has never nominated the GOP candidate. That's not the rules... you don't want a "rigged" system do you? The nominee must receive a MAJORITY of delegates.. been that way since the party's inception in 1856. You say you wan't "will of the people" but the will of the people is they mostly don't want Trump. So do you WANT will of the people or NOT?

You can't honestly make that claim. First off, Colorado changed their game plan last summer, not 1856. The field was very large in the beginning and even now there are three dividing up the delegate count. If you have evidence all the votes that didn't go to Trump was a vote against him then post it up. All we know is people preferred someone else. Trump could have been their second pick for all you know.

Uhm... Yes I can honestly make that claim because it's the truth. Colorado can change it's game plan, so can every other state party, so can the national party. Heck, the national party can change it's game plan at the convention. This has also always been the case since 1856. What has never changed is the requirement for the nominee to get a majority of delegates and not simply a plurality.

I never claimed that delegates not going to Trump were delegates against Trump. The nominee is not chosen on the basis of how many or few delegates are against them. The nominee is also not chosen on the basis of who is second most popular. Since the party's inception in 1856, it has been the candidate with a majority of delegates. There is a process to follow if no one gets the majority on the first ballot.

If the GOP based the nomination on plurality, we would have never nominated Abraham Lincoln, the GOP candidate in 1860 would have been William Seward. He had the plurality of delegates on the first ballot.... but that's not how the GOP nominates a candidate. That's not the process. They MUST get a majority, not a plurality.

Now, you Trumpettes will whine about "will of the people" and how it's not fair but the rules are a majority and not a plurality precisely because of "will of the people." If the majority of delegates support someone other than Trump, that's the will of the people. Some of the candidates they are bound to support are no longer in the race. Some have no chance of securing a majority of delegates. After the first ballot, if no one has a majority, the delegates are released from their obligation to support a specific candidate.

You'll say, but that's not fair, the people voted for the delegates and their vote should count... but that's not how political parties select candidates. The GOP is not obligated to a democratic process. This is not a "one-man-one-vote" process. Even the presidency itself is not determined on the basis of popular vote. So the GOP has a process as do the Democrats and the process will be followed as it always is. I'm sorry that so many Americans seems to be confused or lack the education to understand the process but that's life... it's not always fair.

I would think that Mr. Trump would be comfortable with a brokered convention. After all, isn't his big claim to fame his ability to cut deals and negotiate? Well, this is where that will come into play. After the first ballot, the front-runners will lobby delegates to come over to their camp. Trump has the same opportunity as Cruz, Kasich or others. The problem as I see it is, Trump hasn't made too many friends. Maybe I am wrong... maybe people deep down love Trump? Maybe Trump has the ability to apply his masterful negotiation and deal making skills in order to secure the needed delegates?

In any event, the GOP nominee will be the first person to obtain a majority of the delegates at the convention. This isn't a democratic process, it never has been. This is not the NFL playoffs or American Idol. Who people voted for has no real bearing on who the party nominates as their candidate. Just as the president is not elected by the popular vote, that's the process... that's how this works.

I'm a Trumpette because I asked you to back up the claim that a vote for anybody else was a vote against Trump? You're just trying to make facts fir your beliefs. No one said the party acted illegally, why trot out that strawman? Whether it's legal for them or not doesn't make it ethical.

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

 

[Iceweasel]

You have two choices .... the Republican or the Democrat.

Anything else is a waste of time and vote. Nobody says you have to love the candidate, but you should pick the one most closely aligned with your political beliefs. Vote for Hillary if you're so upset about Trump .... but don't waste your vote. That's just plain silly.

Nope. I have the choice to conscientiously object and not vote. That might result in Hillary winning. If Donald Trump is who the Republicans pick as their candidate, I am probably staying at home. I agree that I should vote for whomever aligns most closely with my political views but my political views will not be represented by either of the parties if Trump is the nominee. You see... smearing, sliming and sleazing around like a Saul Alinsky liberal is not conducive with my political views. I will not associate my name and reputation with Donald Trump by voting for him. I don't really care if you think that is silly... it's not up to you.

Trump could have easily won me over. I was prepared to support him if he won the nomination... go look up the many threads I posted to this effect. I was willing to overlook many of his shortcomings because I felt he would have been a better choice than the Democrat. My views have now changed. I don't think he would be better, I think he might actually be worse. At least, for constitutional conservatism. If he is going to set back the progress conservatives have made in recent years, I don't want him to win. I think he is too petty and divisive, he likes to denigrate and insult people who don't agree with him, he's a class A jerk and a caustic blowhole. He is also all over the board on his personal views, so I don't honestly know what he really believes. I don't trust him, I think he is pumping us full of bullshit to win.

So... Maybe what we need is 4 more years of goofy liberal policies and judicial nominations? Maybe we need our tax rates raised to ungodly levels? Maybe we need Socialist policies to kill more jobs and destroy more free market capitalism? Then, perhaps Americans can coalesce around a principled Conservative and we can begin to bring our country back?

Stay home, if you wish ... it reflects your commitment to this country and its future.

"If you don't let me win, I'm going to take my ball and go home."

That's not what not voting means. You're just a dumb asshole trying to criticize others.

 

[Jroc]

Mindless sheeple will defend the establishment and their chicanery. "rule changes" are perfectly acceptable...

AGAIN.... There was no rule change! The caucus in Colorado operated by the same rules that have been in place for Colorado since 1912.

You're a mindless zombie. They changed the rules in August of 2015 - right after they realized Trump would dominate. Wake the fuck up!!

Colorado Republicans cancel presidential vote at 2016 caucus

Who cares? They changed the rules 7months ago not last week. Trump was asleep at the wheel...get over it

But I thought they didn't change the rules?

You sheeple need to get your lies straight.......

PS- I have nothing to get over bub. The GOP is corrupt. They've gotten over on you. WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Listen bub, the rules are the rules. Leftist make then up as they go along. Trump followers parrot Trump like The Obama,Sander cult followers..Trump needs to get his act together and organize his ground game or he has no chance of beating the dems if he's the nominee ..none

 

[Jroc]

shut up moron..I never had a problem with Trump, until he started acting a fool. I 'll still vote for him over the witch so STFU...You don't know me you old fool

I won't... I'm done! Done with whiny and petulant Trump AND his supporters. I'll stay home or vote 3rd party before I vote for Trump... you can thank his sleazy despicable tactics and his equally sleazy despicable supporters.
#NeverTrump

Another vote thrown away ... if you want to make a statement, buy a fucking sign, don't waste your vote.

Sorry... I was ready and prepared to vote for Trump over the Socialists... still wish I could. I hate like hell to think of what they're going to do to our nation with another 4 years in power... BUT... I cannot support this man any longer. If he wins the nomination, I will not vote for him. His sleazeball tactics and the general smart-ass attitude of his supporters has turned me against him and I ain't coming back.... Color me DONE!

You're parroting Levin, I like Mark Levin, but I'm never going to set back, and let Hillary appoint our next 3 supreme court justices without a fight ..I'll going door to door for Trump if he the nominee.

 

[Boss]

95% of the population used to think the world was flat. 95% of the population used to think the Earth went around the sun

Yeah, and 95% still believe in a power greater than self. Amazing, huh?

Only 31% believe in Naked Zombie on a Stick. Why did you avoid that point. If Naked Zombie on the Stick is the Greater power, why isn't that 95%?

(I also doubt that the number is 95%. "Greater Power" sounds like something they say at your Court Mandated AA Meeting after you ran over Billy-Bob's Pig on your way after work at the Toxic Waste Dump.)

Why are you in the middle of the politics board on a thread about the GOP and Trump arguing God? You're probably over on the religious board arguing the GOP and Trump in a God thread... because you are retarded that way... don't have the sense to use a message forum properly.

I don't care what you doubt, you can go look it up if you don't believe me... 95% believe in something, 5% believe in nothing (Nihilism). And it's been that way for as long as there have been human civilizations. Obviously, some of us descended from a higher power while others descended from monkeys... we can tell which is which by how they use message forums.

 

[Jroc]

Avatar4321

Look at Cruz's mind blowing "organization" and "work"!

This circus is an f'ing disgrace. And you have the gall to tell the people of Colorado that they should not be allowed the right to vote? Fuck that. My relatives didn't take bullets for this nonsense!

Trump not doing the work...


Ted Cruz Picks Up Nebraska Delegates over No Show Donald Trump

"Party officials say they saw virtually no organization by the mogul’s campaign last week when Republicans in all 93 Nebraska counties held local conventions. Those county conventions picked 800 delegates to May’s Nebraska state convention, where 33 delegates to the national convention in Cleveland will be selected,” Politico reports. “Because there was little resistance, many county conventions became Cruz pep rallies, according to interviews with party insiders and convention attendees.”

“I didn’t see any Trump supporters,” said Washington County GOP member John Orr told Politico.

“The only person there that had any kind of organization there was Cruz. No one showed up with Trump,” said former state legislator Tim Gay.

Ted Cruz Picks Up Nebraska Delegates over No Show Donald Trump - Breitbart

 

[Jroc]

95% of the population used to think the world was flat. 95% of the population used to think the Earth went around the sun

Yeah, and 95% still believe in a power greater than self. Amazing, huh?

Only 31% believe in Naked Zombie on a Stick. Why did you avoid that point. If Naked Zombie on the Stick is the Greater power, why isn't that 95%?

(I also doubt that the number is 95%. "Greater Power" sounds like something they say at your Court Mandated AA Meeting after you ran over Billy-Bob's Pig on your way after work at the Toxic Waste Dump.)

Why are you in the middle of the politics board on a thread about the GOP and Trump arguing God? You're probably over on the religious board arguing the GOP and Trump in a God thread... because you are retarded that way... don't have the sense to use a message forum properly.

I don't care what you doubt, you can go look it up if you don't believe me... 95% believe in something, 5% believe in nothing (Nihilism). And it's been that way for as long as there have been human civilizations. Obviously, some of us descended from a higher power while others descended from monkeys... we can tell which is which by how they use message forums.

Because he's a mental patient

 

[Boss]

You're parroting Levin, I like Mark Levin, but I'm never going to set back, and let Hillary appoint our next 3 supreme court justices without a fight ..I'll going door to door for Trump if he the nominee.

I didn't think I was either. I hate what might happen with the courts, it will affect this nation for the next 50-100 years. Hillary's policies will be a total disaster. That said, I am not going to support Donald Trump. After the things he has done, I can't bring myself to do that. Like I said, I wish that I could... I wanted to... I tried to. He has literally pushed me to the point that I cannot support him anymore.... that's all HIM baby, and his dumbass supporters. It's too late to undo the damage... the "lyin' ted" thing was the last straw. I'm done and I am not coming back... nominate him if you want to, you'll have to get him elected without my vote.

 

[Iceweasel]

I don't think it matters all that much so I'm enjoying the show. The fact that the US has been going full retard for a while now isn't my fault so I'm not taking the blame or feeling bad about it. After 8 years of obama and a huge section of the population is considering Hillary? She'll be his third term. Sanders? He's selling pixie dust and doing very very well.

Kasich is another Romney, and will get a big hohum from the right. Cruz, I just can't warm up to. Maybe it's the fundamentalist lawyer personna that's making deals with the establishment for delegates. Trump is deeply flawed but the only one I think that would actually make a difference.

But that said, Americans have very short memories and it's just a matter of time before they would vote for whatever they think benefits them personally. Even when it doesn't.

 

[Slyhunter]

95% of the population used to think the world was flat. 95% of the population used to think the Earth went around the sun

Yeah, and 95% still believe in a power greater than self. Amazing, huh?

Only 31% believe in Naked Zombie on a Stick. Why did you avoid that point. If Naked Zombie on the Stick is the Greater power, why isn't that 95%?

(I also doubt that the number is 95%. "Greater Power" sounds like something they say at your Court Mandated AA Meeting after you ran over Billy-Bob's Pig on your way after work at the Toxic Waste Dump.)

Why are you in the middle of the politics board on a thread about the GOP and Trump arguing God? You're probably over on the religious board arguing the GOP and Trump in a God thread... because you are retarded that way... don't have the sense to use a message forum properly.

I don't care what you doubt, you can go look it up if you don't believe me... 95% believe in something, 5% believe in nothing (Nihilism). And it's been that way for as long as there have been human civilizations. Obviously, some of us descended from a higher power while others descended from monkeys... we can tell which is which by how they use message forums.

Some people need a Religious crutch to do good, some don't.