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Noooooo, West is not full of shit....I too have heard Obama's socialist rhetoric in the past. I simply don't hear it in this speech.OK, so you agree that West is full of shit? Just trying to be clear here. Because that's an entirely different thing to say. You're saying that Obama said nothing of substance. A serious charge, and one I'll address. But it's just not the same as saying that Obama is a socialist. I hope you'll agree that rhetoric like that is not helpful.
Yes, I believe that in Obama's core, he's a socialist.....That is evident in the fact of those who he has stuffed in his administration. By the words in his books. By those he's aligned himself with throughout his entire adult life.
Well, the above post holds about as much relevence and integrity as the stinken' turd our dog laid out on the lawn this morning.West is a black version of McCain, a loose cannon. Neither of them have the temperament for an executive position. Both made poor choices for senior positions in their respective offices. McCain chose Bible Spice for V.P. and West chose an am radio host as his Chief of Staff which he fired, under pressure, shortly thereafter. He would've kept that "ballots or bullets" girl if he could've LOLOL
Allen West taps conservative talk radio host as chief of staff - The Hill's Ballot Box
A turd that was picked up and summarily tossed in the fucking trash where it belonged.
IOW- you have no rebuttal. Duly noted.
There is no rebuttal to your abject idiocy.IOW- you have no rebuttal. Duly noted.
Your ignorance stands on its own......No rebuttal necessary.
You're an idiot.......I'm not going to rebut that.....It is what it is.
Again with the "i got nuffin" response? Damn. Its like when you get put in a corner, all you do is this.
Noooooo, West is not full of shit....I too have heard Obama's socialist rhetoric in the past. I simply don't hear it in this speech.
Yes, I believe that in Obama's core, he's a socialist.....That is evident in the fact of those who he has stuffed in his administration. By the words in his books. By those he's aligned himself with throughout his entire adult life.
That anti-american piece of shit actually had the audacity to claim that his attempts to kill americans was nothing more than "vandelism" during an interview with Larry Elder a couple o' weeks backNoooooo, West is not full of shit....I too have heard Obama's socialist rhetoric in the past. I simply don't hear it in this speech.OK, so you agree that West is full of shit? Just trying to be clear here. Because that's an entirely different thing to say. You're saying that Obama said nothing of substance. A serious charge, and one I'll address. But it's just not the same as saying that Obama is a socialist. I hope you'll agree that rhetoric like that is not helpful.
Yes, I believe that in Obama's core, he's a socialist.....That is evident in the fact of those who he has stuffed in his administration. By the words in his books. By those he's aligned himself with throughout his entire adult life.
Especially launching his career in the house of a known domestic terrorist that walked and says he remains unrepentant for what he did...and is on the scene as a College professor filling the heads of young people with his tripe.
That anti-american piece of shit actually had the audacity to claim that his attempts to kill americans was nothing more than "vandelism" during an interview with Larry Elder a couple o' weeks backNoooooo, West is not full of shit....I too have heard Obama's socialist rhetoric in the past. I simply don't hear it in this speech.
Yes, I believe that in Obama's core, he's a socialist.....That is evident in the fact of those who he has stuffed in his administration. By the words in his books. By those he's aligned himself with throughout his entire adult life.
Especially launching his career in the house of a known domestic terrorist that walked and says he remains unrepentant for what he did...and is on the scene as a College professor filling the heads of young people with his tripe.
Yeah, Obama had no idea what Ayers was all about. My ass he didn't know!......He damn sure knew when he was sitting on boards, and giving speeches with the scumbag.
Obama's so full of shit, it's disgusting.
Don't twist my fuckin' words, god dammit.Noooooo, West is not full of shit....I too have heard Obama's socialist rhetoric in the past. I simply don't hear it in this speech.
Yes, I believe that in Obama's core, he's a socialist.....That is evident in the fact of those who he has stuffed in his administration. By the words in his books. By those he's aligned himself with throughout his entire adult life.
Wow. That's a real stretch. This makes you pretty partisan. You agree that he didn't use any socialist rhetoric in the speech, or insult anyone. But you still agree with the person who said he did. Why? Because West said what you wanted to hear. What you already believed.
This is polarizing. Every partisan on the right cheers. Every partisan on the left growls. And everyone in the middle kind of scratches their heads. Suddenly the debate is whether or not Obama is a socialist, and no one's talking about the budget anymore.
Jroc, if you do a simple google search, you can easily find a website that will show you fancy charts and make the point that Obama is bankrupting America. You were looking for evidence of that, and you found it. Good job!
But all that your charts show is that Obama didn't cut very much out of the 2011 budget. You're talking about the 2012 budget. We're talking about the budget plan for the next decade. And you're showing us charts about the 2011 budget.
Don't twist my fuckin' words, god dammit.
I said I didn't hear marxist rhetoric in that speech.....I've also said in this thread that he DID insult in that speech.
Jroc, if you do a simple google search, you can easily find a website that will show you fancy charts and make the point that Obama is bankrupting America. You were looking for evidence of that, and you found it. Good job!
But all that your charts show is that Obama didn't cut very much out of the 2011 budget. You're talking about the 2012 budget. We're talking about the budget plan for the next decade. And you're showing us charts about the 2011 budget.
Humm..what are you talking about? Those charts and numbers were from Obama's 2012 budget proposal before he changed it when Ryan came out with his budget
Obama is doing exactly what he said he would do when he was running prior to him winning. He has accomplished so much. On a personal note,he cut taxes for 98% of this country back in 2009. That is freaking fantastic. The republicans did hold us hostage so he had to extend the bush tax cuts for the top 1% and that was not a good thing in my opinion.
He tried to close gitmo but when the republicans heard about this, they refused to allow us to have them stand trial on american soil. We couldnt handle them there? What kind of crap was that anyway.
Now back to him continuing to go down the correct path for the next 6 years...thank god. (Do you not remember two years ago, how close we were to another depression?...do you?)
God bless the president and god bless the united states of america!
(For those on the other side, it will be a long long 6 years for ya...)
See, no profanity.
So fuck you.
Jroc, if you do a simple google search, you can easily find a website that will show you fancy charts and make the point that Obama is bankrupting America. You were looking for evidence of that, and you found it. Good job!
But all that your charts show is that Obama didn't cut very much out of the 2011 budget. You're talking about the 2012 budget. We're talking about the budget plan for the next decade. And you're showing us charts about the 2011 budget.
Humm..what are you talking about? Those charts and numbers were from Obama's 2012 budget proposal before he changed it when Ryan came out with his budget
Go back and read your own damn chart. It's on page 14. Clearly marked, 2011 numbers. Remind me to never believe a thing that you say without checking first. You're gonna be one of those guys that I always have to be like "where did you get those numbers from?" with, aren't you?
Finally, the president has proposed "tough budget cuts" that total $775 million. No, that's not a joke.
I'm trying to keep up. But you're moving so fast! And there are so many obstacles to my understanding. Please bear with me. Surely you can understand my confusion, as I didn't know that the 2012 proposed cuts were being put on a chart with the 2011 budget. I can see why you would do that, if the 2012 budget weren't available yet.
But here's where I'm still confused. You seem to know a lot about Obama's 2012 budget. Almost like he already proposed it. So how come you used a chart with the 2011 budget? Doesn't make very much sense to me.
You're applying 2012 numbers to a 2011 budget and trying to relate that to a debate about a decade-long fiscal plan. You're tying yourself up in knots, and I think I'll catch up with you only to find you exhausted from all of your exercise.
, I also noticed no comment from you regarding the fact that with the "stimulus", Obama added over 900 billion!! to our baseline...Thats what we are working off of. Our budget before the stimulus was 900 billion!! Less then after the stupid so-called "stimulus" consider that when you defend our spender and Chief.
Backing out of what words?Don't twist my fuckin' words, god dammit.
I said I didn't hear marxist rhetoric in that speech.....I've also said in this thread that he DID insult in that speech.
I'm not twisting your words. I'm just not letting you back out of them either. You built your own box. Now you're stuck in it.
Show me the insult! What minute did he say it?
I didn't realize that I was supposed to comment on the stimulus. I thought we were talking about Allen West and the socialist rhetoric that Obama didn't use and insults that Obama didn't make.
You seem like a young kid to me...You were talking about the budget right? The Stimulas is in there permantly every year. We start with that in there. Have you ever heard of Baseline Budgeting..Look it up.
Now, the above post is beyond laughable.During the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, a controversy arose regarding Barack Obama's contact with Bill Ayers, a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and a former leader of the Weather Underground, a radical left organization in the 1970s.[1] Investigations by The New York Times, CNN, and other news organizations concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers.[2][3][4] Ayers served on two nonprofit boards with Obama. Both Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, hosted a gathering at their home in 1995,[5] where Alice Palmer introduced Obama as her chosen successor in the Illinois State Senate.[3][6]
The matter was initially raised by Sean Hannity and other hosts on conservative talk radio programs,[citation needed] and then by moderator George Stephanopoulos during a debate between Clinton and Obama in April 2008. In October 2008, the matter was mentioned in attack ads, robocalls, mass mailings, and campaign speeches by Republican presidential candidate John McCain and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin as an issue in the general election campaign. Obama has condemned Ayers' past,[7][8] and stated that he does not have a close association with him.[5]
