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No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?The same can be said for an Italian citizen tried in an American court and convicted of Capital murder. Italian administrative law does not apply.
So you get it, now? Good!
No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?So you get it, now? Good!
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
These are some of the most high-profile cases:
:: In 1998, a US Marine jet sliced a cable supporting a gondola at a ski resort in the Italian Alps, killing 20 people. The jet was flying fast and low.
Many Italians wanted the pilot and crew tried in Italy, though Nato rules gave jurisdiction to the US military.
The pilot faced a court martial in the US and was acquitted of negligent homicide charges, outraging Italians.
:: Twenty-six CIA and US government employees were tried and convicted in absentia in Italy for the 2003 kidnapping of an Egyptian cleric suspected of recruiting terrorists in Milan.
It was a notorious case in the "extraordinary rendition" practice.
Some food for thought:No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?So you get it, now? Good!
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
No country, much less a superpower, is going to turn over one of its citizens to another government to serve punishment that goes against its own principles of justice. Many very strong American allies, for example, routinely refuse to extradite their citizens for capital crimes because they consider the death penalty abhorrent.
Its worth noting, though, that the United States is virtually alone in its strict interpretation of the double jeopardy doctrine (with some caveats that Ill address later). Even though the principle was enshrined in the British Common Law centuries before the colonization of North America, the UK has long recognized exceptions, especially in murder cases. Similarly, while most European Union and Commonwealth countries have basic double jeopardy protections, there has been movement in recent years to grant exceptions in cases where the interests of justice demand it, such as proof that the accused perjured himself in trial or finding of major new evidence that makes guilt clear.
No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?So you get it, now? Good!
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
Some food for thought:No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
No country, much less a superpower, is going to turn over one of its citizens to another government to serve punishment that goes against its own principles of justice. Many very strong American allies, for example, routinely refuse to extradite their citizens for capital crimes because they consider the death penalty abhorrent.
It’s worth noting, though, that the United States is virtually alone in its strict interpretation of the double jeopardy doctrine (with some caveats that I’ll address later). Even though the principle was enshrined in the British Common Law centuries before the colonization of North America, the UK has long recognized exceptions, especially in murder cases. Similarly, while most European Union and Commonwealth countries have basic double jeopardy protections, there has been movement in recent years to grant exceptions in cases where the interests of justice demand it, such as proof that the accused perjured himself in trial or finding of major new evidence that makes guilt clear.
Does double jeopardy apply to Amanda Knox? « Hot Air
America will have little choice but to extradite Amanda Knox if Italy requests it, according to legal experts.
Knox says she will only go back to Italy "kicking and screaming" after an Italian court ruled she should not have been cleared.
But expectations that America will not extradite Knox to serve a 28-year sentence are unfounded, according to lawyers.
Gemma Lindfield, a UK barrister, specialising in extradition, told Sky News: "There's a valid extradition treaty between the US and Italy.
"The countries made that agreement in good faith and there's no reason why the Italians would not submit a request.
No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
Did you actually READ what you quoted?
She will not be extradited to Italy because our constitution protects us from kangaroo courts like that. The "double jeopardy" clause. She's already been tried.
Suppose we want someone extradited and they won't because we didn't hand over Amanda?
No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?So you get it, now? Good!
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
No, I got it before. Even if there were an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Italy, would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen convicted of Capital Murder?
Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
Not if the Italian was guilty of capital murder would the It govt xfr an Italian to the US if the punishment was death.
There's gonna be trouble for Obama and co if they send her back to Italy.
The People will be very very unhappy.
The next election is not that far away.
How convenient. Guilty as sin, yet she probably won't see the inside of a jail cell unless the US decide to lock her up.
I don't think she's as guilty as sin.
I don't think she's guilty at all.
All the physical evidence points to another suspect.
The only thing that implicates Knox is that she made statements to Italian police after they browbeat her in an interrogation in Italian without a lawyer present.
The key here is double jeopardy. She can't be tried twice for the same murder. I am aware that Italy does not have a double jeopardy clause. However Italy also does not have Capital Punishment. Would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen to the U.S. to face the death penalty? If the answer is no, then we should not extradite Ms. Knox back to Italy as they lack a double jeopardy clause in their constitution.
Swell. What's good for us is good for them. The Italian government would simply agree to try the defendant with a double jeopardy clause if the case was that important to them.Of course they would. An extradition treaty is just an agreement of surrendering a prisoner. It's not used to determine guilt or innocence.
There's some broken gizmos up in here, all confusing purpose with function.
Not if the Italian was guilty of capital murder would the It govt xfr an Italian to the US if the punishment was death.
For the love of common sense, please realize our gov't would simply agree to try the defendant with a max sentence of life w/out parole if the case was that important to them.
"All the physical evidence points to another suspect."
Please elaborate. You are the only person who seems to be aware of this physical evidence. Certainly it would be news to the Italian prosecutors.
Swell. What's good for us is good for them. The Italian government would simply agree to try the defendant with a double jeopardy clause if the case was that important to them.Not if the Italian was guilty of capital murder would the It govt xfr an Italian to the US if the punishment was death.
For the love of common sense, please realize our gov't would simply agree to try the defendant with a max sentence of life w/out parole if the case was that important to them.
It's a two way street. If we change our procedures to accommodate them, it is expected that they do the same.
It has everything to do with Double Jeopardy. If an Italian Citizen were convicted of a capital murder, the Italian government would not extradite him unless his sentence were commuted to life in order to accommodate their laws. We should do the same. An American citizen should not be extradited to Italy unless they agree to apply the Double Jeopardy clause in order to accommodate our laws.The key here is double jeopardy. She can't be tried twice for the same murder. I am aware that Italy does not have a double jeopardy clause. However Italy also does not have Capital Punishment. Would Italy extradite an Italian Citizen to the U.S. to face the death penalty? If the answer is no, then we should not extradite Ms. Knox back to Italy as they lack a double jeopardy clause in their constitution.
This has nothing to do with double Jeopardy.
True, and with Double Jeopardy, you cannot be retried for the same crime following a legitimate acquittal. She was acquitted, let it go.Swell. What's good for us is good for them. The Italian government would simply agree to try the defendant with a double jeopardy clause if the case was that important to them.For the love of common sense, please realize our gov't would simply agree to try the defendant with a max sentence of life w/out parole if the case was that important to them.
It's a two way street. If we change our procedures to accommodate them, it is expected that they do the same.
You know that this was the THIRD Knox trial.
