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But Martin, being followed by a stranger has no right to feel threatened and act out of self preservation?
Oh... that's right... he "looked" suspicious.... black and wearing a hoodie.
The bottom line is that Zimmerman ignored police orders not to follow the kid, he ranted on the phone that "these (censored) get away with this all the time"(or something very close to that), and he followed and stalked what turned out to be a scared and INNOCENT kid with a bag of skittles.
But Zimmerman is the victim.... I love the mindset of the right.
First of all, what 911 operators say are not police orders. There is no legal obligation to follow suggestions, orders, or anything else a 911 operator says (other than what a court orders, such as stop calling with false or frivolous calls). It there were any legal obligation, a lot of folks would NEVER call 911 and put themselves immediately in a legally liable situation.If Zimmerman disobeyed a police order not to follow Martin, that is probably an unlawful act in Florida.
If so then the stand your ground law doesn't apply:
2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity;
What does Florida
He was told not to follow him.
Zimmerman claims he did not follow him once the 911 operator told him not to.
Maybe he did and maybe he didnt.
How do you know as fact that he continued to follow him?
this thread is about an old man who was beaten with a fucking hammer by two black cowardly thugs I guess as payback for Martin,, thanks the the race baiters and the media another innocent has lost his life.. does this make the black community feel better? or will they need more?
But Martin, being followed by a stranger has no right to feel threatened and act out of self preservation?
Oh... that's right... he "looked" suspicious.... black and wearing a hoodie.
The bottom line is that Zimmerman ignored police orders not to follow the kid, he ranted on the phone that "these (censored) get away with this all the time"(or something very close to that), and he followed and stalked what turned out to be a scared and INNOCENT kid with a bag of skittles.
But Zimmerman is the victim.... I love the mindset of the right.
this thread is about an old man who was beaten with a fucking hammer by two black cowardly thugs I guess as payback for Martin,, thanks the the race baiters and the media another innocent has lost his life.. does this make the black community feel better? or will they need more?
wow... the story I read was that it was a burglary... I think your whole premise that it was retaliatory is made up in your bigoted mind, and those who think like you...of course.
It sure did. And nothing in the LAW exempts Zimmerman from it. And just because some writer says he is exempt, doesn't mean the LAW says he is exempt. The media is not the LAW.I asked for the actual law.
You DO know that what any lawmaker says AFTER the law is passed is just wind from a politician. That's all it is. It has nothing to do with the LAW and has zero probative value.
Now, you will quote the LAW that exempts Zimmerman, right? That's what you claimed, so I would like to see the law that exempts him from being covered.
TIA.
The article cited quoted the law you moron.
Moron.
this thread is about an old man who was beaten with a fucking hammer by two black cowardly thugs I guess as payback for Martin,, thanks the the race baiters and the media another innocent has lost his life.. does this make the black community feel better? or will they need more?
If Zimmerman disobeyed a police order not to follow Martin, that is probably an unlawful act in Florida.
If so then the stand your ground law doesn't apply:
2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity;
What does Florida
He was told not to follow him.
Zimmerman claims he did not follow him once the 911 operator told him not to.
Maybe he did and maybe he didnt.
How do you know as fact that he continued to follow him?
You know, I put the word 'IF' in that post intentionally to not have to deal with some idiot who was going to accuse me of assuming as fact something I didn't know as fact.
A lot of good that did me.
Well, there is a bit more to the case, but don't let any facts get in your way.Because the dumb asses need something to be outraged about. To think, that someone would actually be charged for gunning down an unarmed teenager that has a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea. Capital crime.
You haven't ever before, so it's not surprising that you fail now, too.
Dumb ass. Zimmerman followed the kid at night and had a gun. His comments on the recordings were a good indictation of his mindset. He confronted the kid and killed him. What else is there to say?
From the confrontation to when the police arrived, we have only Zimmerman's story. The kid is dead and cannot tell his side.
I hope that there is a hell of a lawsuit against the Home Owners Association, and that it results in one big settlement. In any sane Neighborhood Watch, the participants do not carry guns, and only report to the police what the see.
First of all, what 911 operators say are not police orders. There is no legal obligation to follow suggestions, orders, or anything else a 911 operator says (other than what a court orders, such as stop calling with false or frivolous calls). It there were any legal obligation, a lot of folks would NEVER call 911 and put themselves immediately in a legally liable situation.If Zimmerman disobeyed a police order not to follow Martin, that is probably an unlawful act in Florida.
If so then the stand your ground law doesn't apply:
2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity;
What does Florida
He was told not to follow him.
Zimmerman claims he did not follow him once the 911 operator told him not to.
Maybe he did and maybe he didnt.
How do you know as fact that he continued to follow him?
Secondly, the 911 operator did not tell or "order" Zimmerman not to follow:
911: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
911: OK. We don't need you to do that.
White man.. This is just the beginning if the media keeps up Race rhetoric on the news
Two teens arrested for gruesome hammer attack near Sanford, FL - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com
You are an ass.
I am an ass for pointing out that the MEDIA is fueling this fire. If you say they are not you would be a moron!
Exactly. THAT is the topicthis thread is about an old man who was beaten with a fucking hammer by two black cowardly thugs I guess as payback for Martin,, thanks the the race baiters and the media another innocent has lost his life.. does this make the black community feel better? or will they need more?
But Martin, being followed by a stranger has no right to feel threatened and act out of self preservation?
Oh... that's right... he "looked" suspicious.... black and wearing a hoodie.
The bottom line is that Zimmerman ignored police orders not to follow the kid, he ranted on the phone that "these (censored) get away with this all the time"(or something very close to that), and he followed and stalked what turned out to be a scared and INNOCENT kid with a bag of skittles.
But Zimmerman is the victim.... I love the mindset of the right.
The biggest question is weather or not Zimmerman had the legal right to shoot Martin...
I don't think Zimmerman should have been following Martin whatsoever, but following a person isn't a crime...
In reality all the evidence supports Zimmermans claims...
LoneLaughter isn't a fan of facts, especially ones that interfere with his/her personal reality.You are an ass.
I am an ass for pointing out that the MEDIA is fueling this fire. If you say they are not you would be a moron!
He's pissed because you pointed that out.
First of all, what 911 operators say are not police orders. There is no legal obligation to follow suggestions, orders, or anything else a 911 operator says (other than what a court orders, such as stop calling with false or frivolous calls). It there were any legal obligation, a lot of folks would NEVER call 911 and put themselves immediately in a legally liable situation.He was told not to follow him.
Zimmerman claims he did not follow him once the 911 operator told him not to.
Maybe he did and maybe he didnt.
How do you know as fact that he continued to follow him?
Secondly, the 911 operator did not tell or "order" Zimmerman not to follow:
911: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
911: OK. We don't need you to do that.
So... ignoring orders from a 911 operator... Dispatcher... Trained personnel, and stalking a young black kid in a hoodie is A-OK with you?
Who said it wasn't????But Martin, being followed by a stranger has no right to feel threatened and act out of self preservation?
Oh... that's right... he "looked" suspicious.... black and wearing a hoodie.
The bottom line is that Zimmerman ignored police orders not to follow the kid, he ranted on the phone that "these (censored) get away with this all the time"(or something very close to that), and he followed and stalked what turned out to be a scared and INNOCENT kid with a bag of skittles.
But Zimmerman is the victim.... I love the mindset of the right.
The biggest question is weather or not Zimmerman had the legal right to shoot Martin...
I don't think Zimmerman should have been following Martin whatsoever, but following a person isn't a crime...
In reality all the evidence supports Zimmermans claims...
And a scared kid who is being followed by a stranger in a world full of child abductees, pedophiles and other criminals isn't a case for his own self defense?
Exactly. THAT is the topicthis thread is about an old man who was beaten with a fucking hammer by two black cowardly thugs I guess as payback for Martin,, thanks the the race baiters and the media another innocent has lost his life.. does this make the black community feel better? or will they need more?
But, we don't know if the race baiting was the motive for these two black kids to brutally beat the white guy.
Exactly. THAT is the topicthis thread is about an old man who was beaten with a fucking hammer by two black cowardly thugs I guess as payback for Martin,, thanks the the race baiters and the media another innocent has lost his life.. does this make the black community feel better? or will they need more?
But, we don't know if the race baiting was the motive for these two black kids to brutally beat the white guy.
