Another active shooter

[Donald H]

The time to stop the German socialists was when they were burning and looting stores and murdering Jews in the street........which is why the socialists took away their guns.....

There are many misconceptions on how the Jews reacted to the Nazis and how the Nazis reacted to the Jews, both before and during WW2.

None of it having anything to do with the Nazis disarming Jews!

In fact, Jewish people took up arms and fought the Germans as often as other ethnic or religious groups or factions.

Bearing in mind that the catholic church's alienation toward Nazism made it less likely that catholics in some countries fought the Nazis in as large numbers.

If an American or Canadian wants to be a student of WW2 history then he/she will have to demonstrate they are interested in the truth.

We know that truthful history in any war doesn't come exclusively from the victor.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Boulder grocery massacre leaves 10 dead including cop, suspect in custody

Ten people were killed, including a veteran police officer, during a mass shooting Monday inside a grocery store in Boulder, Colo., authorities said at a late news conference.

www.foxnews.com

This is something that seemed to die down during Trump...no pun intended...but why as soon as we get another democrat president we begin to see mass shooters again?...it happened under Clinton Obama and the anti 2nd amendment RINO Bush...makes me wonder if all of those stories about CIA mind control are true....
Lets face it...dems want to take guns away and need us to want that too...what better way than to create more random shootings....

I was thinking that as those poor forced sex slave workers in Atlanta were murdered. Now this.

Anyone know the Chinese or Venezuelan anthem so I could start practicing? Then I'll know both when we chose.

Yeah..cause everything is political, right?

F'kin idiot ghouls.

Incredible. But not surprising.

So glad I watch shit holes from way way way afar. Elections have consequences especially in shit holes

Jezus what kind of life could you live in a shit hole or its burbs??? Colorado is a pot infested shit hole now.

Boulder, Colorado is a “shithole?” Are you really that stupid? Where do you live? Bumfuck, Alabama?

I'm betting South Carolina...or Athol Id.

He does not seem to know that Boulder is a wealthy liberal enclave...although when he finds out..it will just give him a bit more joy, I bet.

Most of Colorado is cowboy country....

Or maybe his name isAhmad Al Aliwi Alissa and he is Muslim...you piece of shit racist asshole.

How odd..I'm racist--and yet you get a boner when you find out the shooter has a Middle Eastern name and might be a Muslim?
You are just an empty husk..parroting whatever is the dog whistle of the moment..without a shred of original thought or nuance.
In short..a willing tool~

I got a big old boner knowing your bullshit narrative got fucked.

 

[Flash]

Okay....if this is the muslim guys first actual crime....

Background checks wouldn't have stopped him.

He could have easily used pistols or shotguns....

Hey, anti-gun extremists...what else you got?

Background checks are as worthless as tits on a boar hog. Just because you haven't done a crime in the past doesn't mean you won't do one in the future.

If you can't pass a background check because of past history then not to worry. Just get a gun on the Black Market. Just as easy if not easier than getting illegal drugs. Probably cheaper.

If we are going to do background checks then lets at least be realistic. Don't give guns to Negroes, Muslims or anybody with hate Trump bullshit on their social media.

 

[Donald H]

How odd..I'm racist--and yet you get a boner when you find out the shooter has a Middle Eastern name and might be a Muslim?
You are just an empty husk..parroting whatever is the dog whistle of the moment..without a shred of original thought or nuance.
In short..a willing tool~

I think that Americans debating other Americans over gun violence or mass shooting is all good and productive. Nothing is gained by staying silent on the issue.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It is fucking astonishing how the liberals abandoned this story once the shooter was identified as a Trump hating muslim.

 

[Nostra]

Guy shooting....No law enforcement...Good argument for the 2nd amendment.

Only morons think the answer to mass shootings is more guns. It is like saying the answer to arson is more matches.

Only a real moron would just let himself get shot dead because he didn't have the tools or the balls to protect himself.

backfire
[ˈbakˌfī(ə)r]

NOUN

1. A fire set intentionally to arrest the progress of an approaching fire by creating a burned area in its path, thus depriving the fire of fuel.

The myth of the good guy with a gun is just that: a myth.

Do you ever get tired of being proven to be an ignorant imbecile?

Guns Prevent Thousands of Crimes Every Day, Research Shows | Lawrence W. Reed

The Center for Disease Control, in a report ordered by President Obama in 2012 following the Sandy Hook Massacre, estimated that the number of crimes prevented by guns could be as high as 3 million annually, or some 8,200 every day. And there is plenty more evidence showing that guns keep...

fee.org

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

How odd..I'm racist--and yet you get a boner when you find out the shooter has a Middle Eastern name and might be a Muslim?
You are just an empty husk..parroting whatever is the dog whistle of the moment..without a shred of original thought or nuance.
In short..a willing tool~

I think that Americans debating other Americans over gun violence or mass shooting is all good and productive. Nothing is gained by staying silent on the issue.

Is that what you think this is..a debate?

More like a drunken brawl over tribal totems than it is anything else..but it is fun!

Any actual debate gets trolled right quick. You can find it on USMB..but you have to go to the basement~

 

[Flash]

This piece of Muslim shit is a Syrian refugee.

The fucking Biden/Harris administration ran on a platform to bring in hundred of thousands of Muslim refugees every year. Many of them will be from Syria. How fucking stupid is that?

Anybody that voted for this Joe Dufus clown and allowed him to steal the election is a moron.

 

[Donald H]

Background checks are as worthless as tits on a boar hog. Just because you haven't done a crime in the past doesn't mean you won't do one in the future.

Partially true at least! All the shooters who commit mass murder in America were almost exclusively peaceful gun owners before they committed thei crime with a gun.

How can you tell if a peaceful gun owner is going to become a mass murderer?

The most reliable indication could be in looking at the mannerisms being displayed by the future mass murderer.

Some traits to watch.
1. the gun owner's camo costume he wears more often than other normal clothes.
2. The gun owner's choice of human silouette targets he uses at his range.
3. The choice of a combat weapon the gun owner chooses.
4. The spoken attitude of the peaceful gun owner before he/she becomes a mass shooter.
5. The female sex can be at least placed farther down the list of future suspects.

All 5 are only clues and not positive indications of a potential mass shooter. But in instances where are 5 are relevant, the mass shooter will very often display all.

This would lead the police to at least having a clue as to who to watch carefully.

Are there other characteristics that could help the police to be proactive in forming a watch list?

There seems to be very little possibility of any gun control measures coming to America. This suggestion is at least a possible solution for eliminating some of the problem of Americans murdering each other with their guns. And it doesn't interfere in any way with the freedom to own guns of any style.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It is fucking astonishing how the liberals abandoned this story once the shooter was identified as a Trump hating muslim.

Uh huh. You're all over this eh? Less than a day..and you have it all sussed out.
Of course you're full of shit...and this story will be the lead on every news program tonight--but you have the libs under a spotlight..and you can see they are ''abandoning this story'.
Do you even care how stupid you appear..or is that the point?

If you are a brilliant Dem operative playing the stupid armchair hack that bores all in his range....makes up his facts on the fly..and waits for his cronies to send a smiley---??

You nailed it!

 

[Donald H]

Is that what you think this is..a debate?

More like a drunken brawl over tribal totems than it is anything else..but it is fun!

Any actual debate gets trolled right quick. You can find it on USMB..but you have to go to the basement~

We have to do the best with what we have on USMB.
Spammers and trollers don't necessarily lead others to do so.
How about you address my suggestion on how to identify some gun owners as being risky, before they become mass shooters?

Debates on guns and mass shootings have a potential of doing some good!

 

[ColonelAngus]

The shooter is muslim and hates Trump.

It should be on the news 24/7 for a month.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Muslim Trump hater goes on shooting spree...it is Biden’s fault. His anti Trump rhetoric caused this.

 

[Donald H]

Muslim Trump hater goes on shooting spree...it is Biden’s fault. His anti Trump rhetoric caused this.

You're displaying as much or more anger as any American on this board. Were you in the Capitol on Jan.6th?
Do you use human silouette targets at the range?
Do you wear camo clothing most of the time?
Do you own one or more AR-15's or other combat weapons?

Is your anger about to escalate beyond that which you display here with your words?
Do you pull the wings off of houseflies at your home in Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, or whatever southern state?

This thread is about active shooters and possible ways to identify them before they become murderers with guns. All mass shooters were peaceful gun owners at some time.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The violent rhetoric from the Biden admin caused this. Biden is a Nazi.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Is that what you think this is..a debate?

More like a drunken brawl over tribal totems than it is anything else..but it is fun!

Any actual debate gets trolled right quick. You can find it on USMB..but you have to go to the basement~

We have to do the best with what we have on USMB.
Spammers and trollers don't necessarily lead others to do so.
How about you address my suggestion on how to identify some gun owners as being risky, before they become mass shooters?

Debates on guns and mass shootings have a potential of doing some good!

It's a 'who'll bell the cat' conversation. Identifying potential shooter is not actually the problem. It's how you do so..and what do you do when you think you have a live one. By what law can you detain someone that fits a profile? Disarm them? Surveil them? How far do you go to 'get it right' when getting it wrong has such severe consequences? What of the innocent? We all are..before we act, right?

How do you police children? Teenagers wearing black? Trenchcoats? Camo? Khakis?
Music? Media? Games?

And on and on..You see, gun advocates are not all wrong..to actually grab this problem by the neck would require a revamping of society--not all are thrilled by the prospect. I'm one of those. The level of Govt. intrusion it implies is unacceptable to me.

Debates do shit. They substitute for action and fill the need in a harmless manner..thus negating the need to make the harder choices.

To close, it's a bedrock cultural issue--part of the weft and warp of American society--All proposed realistic 'solutions' are just optics..An assault weapons ban...and such.
Even common sense Red Flag laws take a lot of heat.

 

[Flash]

Background checks are as worthless as tits on a boar hog. Just because you haven't done a crime in the past doesn't mean you won't do one in the future.

Partially true at least! All the shooters who commit mass murder in America were almost exclusively peaceful gun owners before they committed thei crime with a gun.

How can you tell if a peaceful gun owner is going to become a mass murderer?

The most reliable indication could be in looking at the mannerisms being displayed by the future mass murderer.

Some traits to watch.
1. the gun owner's camo costume he wears more often than other normal clothes.
2. The gun owner's choice of human silouette targets he uses at his range.
3. The choice of a combat weapon the gun owner chooses.
4. The spoken attitude of the peaceful gun owner before he/she becomes a mass shooter.
5. The female sex can be at least placed farther down the list of future suspects.

All 5 are only clues and not positive indications of a potential mass shooter. But in instances where are 5 are relevant, the mass shooter will very often display all.

This would lead the police to at least having a clue as to who to watch carefully.

Are there other characteristics that could help the police to be proactive in forming a watch list?

There seems to be very little possibility of any gun control measures coming to America. This suggestion is at least a possible solution for eliminating some of the problem of Americans murdering each other with their guns. And it doesn't interfere in any way with the freedom to own guns of any style.

In the case of the shooter in Colorado who passed a background check he was Muslim. That should have been dead give away, huh? We know of three other other mass murders by Muslims, don't we? One of them the biggest in the history of the country.

The biggest factor in gun violence is being Black in a Democrat controlled big city ghetto.

That is where most of the gun crime in the US takes place, by far.

By the way, I have about 50 guns. Most of them what the Moon Bats call "assault weapons".

My Covid mask is camo. I wear it every time I am required to wear one of those stupid things. I also have a Confederate flag sticker on my pickup truck. Should I be denied my right to keep and bear arms?

 

[impuretrash]

As long as this stuff keeps happening, the gun control people are eventually gonna get their way. But when "common sense" gun control fails to eliminate the problem, the next solution will be even more radical than the last. And so on and so on until all of us are living under a boot. For the greater good, of course.

If more were to pass the common sense gun laws, it would happen a lot less. In this case, the gun laws in place would not have stopped this murderer. Until he pulled the trigger, he complied with the State Laws.

Progs and their agendas played a major role in this. For years we have seen this in greater numbers. We are increasingly feminized as a nation and more people are broken or damaged by upside down policy enforcements. Many males are now eunuchs and the worst thing is many are involved in the feminization of our nation. And it can cross political lines to an extent. The last shooting in Atlanta had the feminized Progs attacking a Sheriff instead of the addressing the problem as usual. And the only answer is gun control for the problems they have created or made worse.

The problem is the "Good Guy with a Gun" mode. In a civil situation, a Good Guy with a Gun is about as dangerous as a Bad Guy with a Gun. Just require your "Good Guy with a Gun" to get the training and have them hide their weapons on their person. CCW Licensed Gun Owners are NOT part of the Problem. They are part of the solution. But your "Good Guy with a Gun" is part of the problem. And the general public doesn't feel safe with you prancing around with your gun hanging out.

I think open carry, in most situations, only alerts the bad guys..and put a weapon potentially up for grabs.
Idaho is permit-less CCW--for $50 you can get the permit if you need the reciprocity while traveling--just take a class.
Part of the responsibility of gun ownership is educating yourself.
It is still our responsibility to keep guns away from Crazies, Criminals and kids.

I think the media bears some responsibility for filling "crazy" people's heads with paranoia and resentment. Looks like the shooter might have targeted white people because of imagined islamophobia.

 

[DudleySmith]

Not even equal to an average Chicago weekend in Da Hood.

At Least 40 Shot, 4 Killed In Weekend Gun Violence In Chicago; 2 Dead, 13 Wounded In One Mass Shooting

At least 36 people had been shot in weekend gun violence in Chicago as of Sunday evening, and four of them had been killed.

chicago.cbslocal.com

That is like the number of shootings in Chicago just about every Saturday and Sundays. There are more on three day weekends.

Yes. they still have to bring up the Oklahoma guy, what's his name, to make a list longer than two of white guys who kill like black serial killers do every weekend. How long ago as that, again? Quite a few years. For black mass murders, it's only every couple of days.

 

[Flash]

This was a Muslim terrorist attack in Bolder.

Why should Americans be denied the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms because of Muslim terrorism?

Isn't that what the terrorist want?

Why is Joe Dufus caving in to Muslim terrorism?