Another school shooting....time to arm the teachers?

[beagle9]

Less that the price of getting guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them, apparently...

And so it is revealed that the lib loving demoflops are far more stingy, and are far worse idiotic than the conservatives are being accused of, because they would rather turn a nation completly upside down in an idiotic way of thinking, than to simply put some money into a place where it is needed to fix a problem, and so you all see how they have been the biggest non-supporters of spending any money for the children on this issue right, and so lets let the record please show the truth as it has been recorded as such now with these demoflop loving libs.

Banning private gun ownership will not turn the country upside down. In fact, when Australia banned guns a couple decades ago, most people complied with the new laws and turned in their guns.

The problem- as I pointed out - is that these mass shooting happen very quickly, and they are usually carried out by people who don't care if they live or die, so an armed guard or worse, an armed teacher, isn't going to be much of a deterrent. Columbine and VA Tech had armed security, and it didn't really matter.

Now, frankly, I would love to hear the gun-nuts tell me how they can keep guns out of the hands of people like Lanza, Loughner, Holmes and Cho without them giving away anything.

Seriously. What are your suggestions?

Oh so you are for the ban on private gun ownership then, well you are a very lone soul among a few who thinks in this way, because most if not almost all in the nation are against this form of thinking.

Hey I just taught my 4 year old grandaughter how to use kid sissors, and when she got done using them she put the sheath back over the sharp part like I taught her, and then she just walkd out of the room saying things like " we must cover up the sharp part and this so we don't cut anything by accident or fall down and hurt ourself etc." where of course I was agreeing with her the whole time. She just came back in the room, and now she is going to show me how to use the sissors safely...Smile...

 

[jillian]

Quick question........................do you conservatives who are advocating putting armed guards in schools realize how much it would cost this country?

I thought the conservatives were for smaller, not bigger, government.

Soooo what's the going rate for the life of one small elementary school child these days?

well, clearly their education and food and care doesn't interest you.

so you would have to answer that.

i guess it depends on what your priorities are.

 

[beagle9]

How do we keep guns out of the hands of the people you mentioned Joe ? Well for starters, how about all of us stop listening to the bad libs and the idiotic government, so we don't create people like you just mentioned in the first place. That would be the biggest first step to take, and may be the only one needed. All problems solved in America.

Until then, we need to look for the signs of having bad people around us, even if they are family members, the greedy, the bad or extremist libs, bad government etc. and then we need to be honest about it while doing something about it that is correct, and not politically correct. Now turning the government upside down in order to clean it all up, would be better than turning the nation upside down in which abuses all in an unjust way.

 

[JoeB131]

Banning guns in Australia has done nothing to stop people from being killed with guns nor has it lowered crime in the same country. But do keep trying to be dishonest and I will continue to slap you down.

Did gun control work in Australia?

So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness.

Argument fail...

 

[JoeB131]

How do we keep guns out of the hands of the people you mentioned Joe ? Well for starters, how about all of us stop listening to the bad libs and the idiotic government, so we don't create people like you just mentioned in the first place. That would be the biggest first step to take, and may be the only one needed. All problems solved in America.

Until then, we need to look for the signs of having bad people around us, even if they are family members, the greedy, the bad or extremist libs, bad government etc. and then we need to be honest about it while doing something about it that is correct, and not politically correct. Now turning the government upside down in order to clean it all up, would be better than turning the nation upside down in which abuses all in an unjust way.

I'm still waiting to hear how "liberalism" causes mental illness.

This should be a laugh.

 

[JoeB131]

And so it is revealed that the lib loving demoflops are far more stingy, and are far worse idiotic than the conservatives are being accused of, because they would rather turn a nation completly upside down in an idiotic way of thinking, than to simply put some money into a place where it is needed to fix a problem, and so you all see how they have been the biggest non-supporters of spending any money for the children on this issue right, and so lets let the record please show the truth as it has been recorded as such now with these demoflop loving libs.

Banning private gun ownership will not turn the country upside down. In fact, when Australia banned guns a couple decades ago, most people complied with the new laws and turned in their guns.

The problem- as I pointed out - is that these mass shooting happen very quickly, and they are usually carried out by people who don't care if they live or die, so an armed guard or worse, an armed teacher, isn't going to be much of a deterrent. Columbine and VA Tech had armed security, and it didn't really matter.

Now, frankly, I would love to hear the gun-nuts tell me how they can keep guns out of the hands of people like Lanza, Loughner, Holmes and Cho without them giving away anything.

Seriously. What are your suggestions?

Oh so you are for the ban on private gun ownership then, well you are a very lone soul among a few who thinks in this way, because most if not almost all in the nation are against this form of thinking....

Actually, most Americans are for some common sense gun control. But it will be amusing to watch Wayne LaPeirre continue his meltdown on Meet The Press this morning.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Banning guns in Australia has done nothing to stop people from being killed with guns nor has it lowered crime in the same country. But do keep trying to be dishonest and I will continue to slap you down.

Did gun control work in Australia?

So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness.

Argument fail...

Because you say so Mr. misinformation?
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

 

[beagle9]

Banning guns in Australia has done nothing to stop people from being killed with guns nor has it lowered crime in the same country. But do keep trying to be dishonest and I will continue to slap you down.

Did gun control work in Australia?

So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness.

Argument fail...

This isn't Australia.....Argument fail...


Of course you American haters who are trying to get this nation to become like other nations or somewhere where you want it to be for you who are in a minority, are free to leave it anytime you want to..

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Banning guns in Australia has done nothing to stop people from being killed with guns nor has it lowered crime in the same country. But do keep trying to be dishonest and I will continue to slap you down.

Did gun control work in Australia?

So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness.

Argument fail...

This isn't Australia.....Argument fail...


Of course you American haters who are trying to get this nation to become like other nations or somewhere where you want it to be for you who are in a minority, are free to leave it anytime you want to..

That's fine I took care of his failed argument.

 

[beagle9]

Banning guns in Australia has done nothing to stop people from being killed with guns nor has it lowered crime in the same country. But do keep trying to be dishonest and I will continue to slap you down.

Did gun control work in Australia?

So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness.

Argument fail...

Because you say so Mr. misinformation?
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

Joe works for the devil, you havn't figured that out yet ? LOL

His job is to get all of us to put down our weapons, while evil exist in the world more than ever now..Makes sense now doesn't it ? I mean wouldn't that be what the devil wants ?

Ever go on a trip with your family into this violent world as we know it, and without protection ? Not a good feeling is it ? Of course the libs can't or won't think like this, because they don't have enough confidence in their weak knee'ed or weak minded selves, along with their weak minded followers to handle themselves in this way, so they figure just get the guns from everybody, and they will be safe, but for now or in the meantime they will be afraid to venture out into the sunlight again (more mental problems to come). Hey and if they would quit moving their ilk into the neighborhoods in which the good guy's live, we wouldn't have to lock down everything there as well either... We need to research people, while keeping our guns loaded until we get a handle on these problems. Of course the libs will say that their isn't no such thing as bad people, but those guns are bad all by themselves....LOL

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Did gun control work in Australia?



Argument fail...

Because you say so Mr. misinformation?
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

Joe works for the devil, you havn't figured that out yet ? LOL

His job is to get all of us to put down our weapons, while evil exist in the world more than ever now..Makes sense now doesn't it ? I mean wouldn't that be what the devil wants ?

Ever go on a trip with your family into this violent world as we know it, and without protection ? Not a good feeling is it ? Of course the libs can't or won't think like this, because they don't have enough confidence in their weak knee'ed or weak minded selves, along with their weak minded followers to handle themselves in this way, so they figure just get the guns from everybody, and they will be safe, but for now or in the meantime they will be afraid to venture out into the sunlight again (more mental problems to come). Hey and if they would quit moving their ilk into the neighborhoods in which the good guy's live, we wouldn't have to lock down everything there as well either... We need to research people, while keeping our guns loaded until we get a handle on these problems. Of course the libs will say that their isn't no such thing as bad people, but those guns are bad all by themselves....LOL

Nahw Joe's just an misinformed idiot, Cammmpbell is the one that's has a satanic influence.

 

[beagle9]

How do we keep guns out of the hands of the people you mentioned Joe ? Well for starters, how about all of us stop listening to the bad libs and the idiotic government, so we don't create people like you just mentioned in the first place. That would be the biggest first step to take, and may be the only one needed. All problems solved in America.

Until then, we need to look for the signs of having bad people around us, even if they are family members, the greedy, the bad or extremist libs, bad government etc. and then we need to be honest about it while doing something about it that is correct, and not politically correct. Now turning the government upside down in order to clean it all up, would be better than turning the nation upside down in which abuses all in an unjust way.

I'm still waiting to hear how "liberalism" causes mental illness.

This should be a laugh.

Ever heard of an educated fool ? LOL

The liberal mindset teeters on the brink of going full mental melt down at every turn, where as it starts like when a baby doesn't get it's way (throwing a tantrum), where next the liberal minded single mom steps in to spoil the baby instead of doing the right thing in which is to teach the baby correctly, and then she makes the feds the babies father next. Hmmm, maybe this is why so many liberal would be mom''s were getting these abortions, because maybe they are smart enough to realize their mental or sick conditions in life, after growing up in an extremist liberal home and/or public school setting, and so maybe this is what drove them to do such a thing as that as known from those settings ? Maybe this is why these abortion doctors don't see anything wrong with aborting babies like they do, because maybe they were seeing it as being merciful unto the would be born baby instead, and this they figured in order to keep the child from a life of pure hell if being born into a very bad or screwed up situation ? Now I am against aborting babies big time, and babies are always innocent until somehow corrupted later on in life, and this if such is found to be the case afterwards..

OK, so how about lets get the feds out of our social lives in this nation quickly, and get them back into where they belong (the business end of things), and this so we can fix all of this madness we have now been subjected to in this nation ourselves ? Right now it is expected that the normal thinking people in this nation fall to the mentally messed up peoples ways of thinking (with fed backing), instead of it being in the opposite as it should be. This has got to be corrected somehow..

 

[beagle9]

Because you say so Mr. misinformation?
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

Joe works for the devil, you havn't figured that out yet ? LOL

His job is to get all of us to put down our weapons, while evil exist in the world more than ever now..Makes sense now doesn't it ? I mean wouldn't that be what the devil wants ?

Ever go on a trip with your family into this violent world as we know it, and without protection ? Not a good feeling is it ? Of course the libs can't or won't think like this, because they don't have enough confidence in their weak knee'ed or weak minded selves, along with their weak minded followers to handle themselves in this way, so they figure just get the guns from everybody, and they will be safe, but for now or in the meantime they will be afraid to venture out into the sunlight again (more mental problems to come). Hey and if they would quit moving their ilk into the neighborhoods in which the good guy's live, we wouldn't have to lock down everything there as well either... We need to research people, while keeping our guns loaded until we get a handle on these problems. Of course the libs will say that their isn't no such thing as bad people, but those guns are bad all by themselves....LOL

Nahw Joe's just an misinformed idiot, Cammmpbell is the one that's has a satanic influence.

Could be, so help him (Joe) if you can, but I bet you can't..

 

[JoeB131]

This isn't Australia.....Argument fail...


Of course you American haters who are trying to get this nation to become like other nations or somewhere where you want it to be for you who are in a minority, are free to leave it anytime you want to..

Or we can just fix what's wrong with this country...

look, the NRA gun nuts are only about 4 million people. Why should we let a few gun nuts who are clearly whacked dictate policy for the rest of us.

Gun control works in other countries... it could work here.

 

[JoeB131]

How do we keep guns out of the hands of the people you mentioned Joe ? Well for starters, how about all of us stop listening to the bad libs and the idiotic government, so we don't create people like you just mentioned in the first place. That would be the biggest first step to take, and may be the only one needed. All problems solved in America.

Until then, we need to look for the signs of having bad people around us, even if they are family members, the greedy, the bad or extremist libs, bad government etc. and then we need to be honest about it while doing something about it that is correct, and not politically correct. Now turning the government upside down in order to clean it all up, would be better than turning the nation upside down in which abuses all in an unjust way.

I'm still waiting to hear how "liberalism" causes mental illness.

This should be a laugh.

Ever heard of an educated fool ? LOL

The liberal mindset teeters on the brink of going full mental melt down at every turn, where as it starts like when a baby doesn't get it's way (throwing a tantrum), where next the liberal minded single mom steps in to spoil the baby instead of doing the right thing in which is to teach the baby correctly, and then she makes the feds the babies father next. Hmmm, maybe this is why so many liberal would be mom''s were getting these abortions, because maybe they are smart enough to realize their mental or sick conditions in life, after growing up in an extremist liberal home and/or public school setting, and so maybe this is what drove them to do such a thing as that as known from those settings ? Maybe this is why these abortion doctors don't see anything wrong with aborting babies like they do, because maybe they were seeing it as being merciful unto the would be born baby instead, and this they figured in order to keep the child from a life of pure hell if being born into a very bad or screwed up situation ? Now I am against aborting babies big time, and babies are always innocent until somehow corrupted later on in life, and this if such is found to be the case afterwards..

OK, so how about lets get the feds out of our social lives in this nation quickly, and get them back into where they belong (the business end of things), and this so we can fix all of this madness we have now been subjected to in this nation ourselves ? Right now it is expected that the normal thinking people in this nation fall to the mentally messed up peoples ways of thinking (with fed backing), instead of it being in the opposite as it should be. This has got to be corrected somehow..

Wow, that was the most incoherent thing I've read on here yet...

And that's including most of the crap posted by PoliticsChick...

 

[JoeB131]

[
Joe works for the devil, you havn't figured that out yet ? LOL

His job is to get all of us to put down our weapons, while evil exist in the world more than ever now..Makes sense now doesn't it ? I mean wouldn't that be what the devil wants ?

Ever go on a trip with your family into this violent world as we know it, and without protection ? Not a good feeling is it ? Of course the libs can't or won't think like this, because they don't have enough confidence in their weak knee'ed or weak minded selves, along with their weak minded followers to handle themselves in this way, so they figure just get the guns from everybody, and they will be safe, but for now or in the meantime they will be afraid to venture out into the sunlight again (more mental problems to come). Hey and if they would quit moving their ilk into the neighborhoods in which the good guy's live, we wouldn't have to lock down everything there as well either... We need to research people, while keeping our guns loaded until we get a handle on these problems. Of course the libs will say that their isn't no such thing as bad people, but those guns are bad all by themselves....LOL

I'm sorry, whenever someone talks about "the Devil", all I can think of is this...

Sure there are bad people. And there are ill people. And they are relatively harmless, unless some asshole gives them a military grade weapon with a high-capacity clip.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This isn't Australia.....Argument fail...


Of course you American haters who are trying to get this nation to become like other nations or somewhere where you want it to be for you who are in a minority, are free to leave it anytime you want to..

Or we can just fix what's wrong with this country...

look, the NRA gun nuts are only about 4 million people. Why should we let a few gun nuts who are clearly whacked dictate policy for the rest of us.

Gun control works in other countries... it could work here.

Your link was a bunch of misinformation, you cannot build a supportive argument for yyour position using misinformation so try again.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You will do what the district tells you to do. You don't tell the teachers what to do. You have a poor concept of what your role is in public education.

Step off. You do not decide what teachers must do for their jobs. The taxpayers, parents, and administration, in compliance with state law, make that decision.

Bite me. As a parent it my responsibity to see my children are properly cared for. Murdered is not properly cared for.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Guns are not going to be banned, end of story.

Teachers will most likely not be armed.

Any security more than what we have now will have to be financed from sales taxes on guns and the industry's supporting technology.

 

[JoeB131]

This isn't Australia.....Argument fail...


Of course you American haters who are trying to get this nation to become like other nations or somewhere where you want it to be for you who are in a minority, are free to leave it anytime you want to..

Or we can just fix what's wrong with this country...

look, the NRA gun nuts are only about 4 million people. Why should we let a few gun nuts who are clearly whacked dictate policy for the rest of us.

Gun control works in other countries... it could work here.

Your link was a bunch of misinformation, you cannot build a supportive argument for yyour position using misinformation so try again.

My link was fine, guy...

But let's compare gun deaths in Austrailia using this site.

Gun Policy Facts and News

Number of Gun Homicides in the US- 9146

Australia - 30

Japan- 11

England and Wales - 41 (58 if you throw in Scotland and N. Ireland)

France - 142

Italy - 246

Germany - 158.

Sorry, man, guns really are the problem.