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65% of Public School 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading; 67% Not Proficient in MathGet on topic and cease trolling me.
Then choke on this....home schooled students kick your precious public schooled student's ass. You jack wads just can't fathom you can't get your grimy paws on them
In 2014, around 1.7 million students (mostly high school juniors and seniors) participated in the SAT exam. Administered by the College Board, the SAT is a reasoning test that assesses college-bound students in three main subjects: critical reading, mathematics, and writing. The SAT and the ACT are considered to make up the vast majority of college entrance exams for American students.
NHERI found that 13,549 home school seniors participated in the 2014 SAT. Of those seniors, home schoolers scored an average of 567 in critical reading, 521 in mathematics, and 535 in writing. In comparison, the average SAT scores for all 2014 high school seniors were 497 in critical reading, 513 in mathematics, and 487 in writing.
How Today’s Homeschoolers are Doing on the SAT
Your propaganda comes from a home-skoolin' advocacy site. Dismissed.
Some home-skooled kids do better - some worse .. it depends on the teacher. Most parents are NOT qualified.
What is consistent is that home-skooled children are socially underdeveloped.
Missed the references link didn't ya, douche bag?
References
College Board. (2014a). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors state profile report, U.S. home school students. New York, NY: Author.
College Board. (2014b). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors total group profile report, total group. New York, NY: Author. Retrieved June 7, 2016 from https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/TotalGroup-2014.pdf
Gloeckner, Gene W., & Jones, Paul. (2013). Reflections on a decade of changes in homeschooling and homeschooled into higher education. Peabody Journal of Education, 88(3), 309-323.
Murphy, Joseph. (2012). Homeschooling in America: Capturing and assessing the movement. Thousand Oaks, CA: Corwin, a Sage Company.
Ray, Brian D., & Eagleson, Bruce K. (2008, August 14). State regulation of homeschooling and homeschoolers’ SAT scores. Journal of Academic Leadership, 6(3). Retrieved March 4, 2013 fromCONTENTdm
2014 College Board Program Results: SAT
Those are some real unbiased sources you have there. When are you going to learn that most people are smart enough to spot asinine attempts to pull the wool over people's eyes like you just tried?
Homeschooling is great for some kids. I just don't agree with all of the homeschooling parents who break their own arms by patting themselves on the back for providing bullshit excuses of my they should be worshipped and provided tax relief for doing what the government already provides. If you want a private education for your kids, pay for it. If you want a home-schooled education for your kids, homeschool. Just don't expect me to pay more taxes for your decisions.
65% of Public School 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading; 67% Not Proficient in MathGet on topic and cease trolling me.
Then choke on this....home schooled students kick your precious public schooled student's ass. You jack wads just can't fathom you can't get your grimy paws on them
In 2014, around 1.7 million students (mostly high school juniors and seniors) participated in the SAT exam. Administered by the College Board, the SAT is a reasoning test that assesses college-bound students in three main subjects: critical reading, mathematics, and writing. The SAT and the ACT are considered to make up the vast majority of college entrance exams for American students.
NHERI found that 13,549 home school seniors participated in the 2014 SAT. Of those seniors, home schoolers scored an average of 567 in critical reading, 521 in mathematics, and 535 in writing. In comparison, the average SAT scores for all 2014 high school seniors were 497 in critical reading, 513 in mathematics, and 487 in writing.
How Today’s Homeschoolers are Doing on the SAT
Your propaganda comes from a home-skoolin' advocacy site. Dismissed.
Some home-skooled kids do better - some worse .. it depends on the teacher. Most parents are NOT qualified.
What is consistent is that home-skooled children are socially underdeveloped.
Missed the references link didn't ya, douche bag?
References
College Board. (2014a). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors state profile report, U.S. home school students. New York, NY: Author.
College Board. (2014b). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors total group profile report, total group. New York, NY: Author. Retrieved June 7, 2016 from https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/TotalGroup-2014.pdf
Gloeckner, Gene W., & Jones, Paul. (2013). Reflections on a decade of changes in homeschooling and homeschooled into higher education. Peabody Journal of Education, 88(3), 309-323.
Murphy, Joseph. (2012). Homeschooling in America: Capturing and assessing the movement. Thousand Oaks, CA: Corwin, a Sage Company.
Ray, Brian D., & Eagleson, Bruce K. (2008, August 14). State regulation of homeschooling and homeschoolers’ SAT scores. Journal of Academic Leadership, 6(3). Retrieved March 4, 2013 fromCONTENTdm
2014 College Board Program Results: SAT
Those are some real unbiased sources you have there. When are you going to learn that most people are smart enough to spot asinine attempts to pull the wool over people's eyes like you just tried?
Homeschooling is great for some kids. I just don't agree with all of the homeschooling parents who break their own arms by patting themselves on the back for providing bullshit excuses of my they should be worshipped and provided tax relief for doing what the government already provides. If you want a private education for your kids, pay for it. If you want a home-schooled education for your kids, homeschool. Just don't expect me to pay more taxes for your decisions.
Your point is?
Take hundreds of thousands of poor Detroit students and average them in with hundreds of thousands of other Michigan students, what will your percentages look like?
Most people, apparently including you, suck at statistics.
Get on topic and cease trolling me.
Then choke on this....home schooled students kick your precious public schooled student's ass. You jack wads just can't fathom you can't get your grimy paws on them
In 2014, around 1.7 million students (mostly high school juniors and seniors) participated in the SAT exam. Administered by the College Board, the SAT is a reasoning test that assesses college-bound students in three main subjects: critical reading, mathematics, and writing. The SAT and the ACT are considered to make up the vast majority of college entrance exams for American students.
NHERI found that 13,549 home school seniors participated in the 2014 SAT. Of those seniors, home schoolers scored an average of 567 in critical reading, 521 in mathematics, and 535 in writing. In comparison, the average SAT scores for all 2014 high school seniors were 497 in critical reading, 513 in mathematics, and 487 in writing.
How Today’s Homeschoolers are Doing on the SAT
Your propaganda comes from a home-skoolin' advocacy site. Dismissed.
Some home-skooled kids do better - some worse .. it depends on the teacher. Most parents are NOT qualified.
What is consistent is that home-skooled children are socially underdeveloped.
Missed the references link didn't ya, douche bag?
References
College Board. (2014a). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors state profile report, U.S. home school students. New York, NY: Author.
College Board. (2014b). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors total group profile report, total group. New York, NY: Author. Retrieved June 7, 2016 from https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/TotalGroup-2014.pdf
Gloeckner, Gene W., & Jones, Paul. (2013). Reflections on a decade of changes in homeschooling and homeschooled into higher education. Peabody Journal of Education, 88(3), 309-323.
Murphy, Joseph. (2012). Homeschooling in America: Capturing and assessing the movement. Thousand Oaks, CA: Corwin, a Sage Company.
Ray, Brian D., & Eagleson, Bruce K. (2008, August 14). State regulation of homeschooling and homeschoolers’ SAT scores. Journal of Academic Leadership, 6(3). Retrieved March 4, 2013 fromCONTENTdm
2014 College Board Program Results: SAT
Those are some real unbiased sources you have there. When are you going to learn that most people are smart enough to spot asinine attempts to pull the wool over people's eyes like you just tried?
Homeschooling is great for some kids. I just don't agree with all of the homeschooling parents who break their own arms by patting themselves on the back for providing bullshit excuses of my they should be worshipped and provided tax relief for doing what the government already provides. If you want a private education for your kids, pay for it. If you want a home-schooled education for your kids, homeschool. Just don't expect me to pay more taxes for your decisions.
Get on topic and cease trolling me.
Then choke on this....home schooled students kick your precious public schooled student's ass. You jack wads just can't fathom you can't get your grimy paws on them
In 2014, around 1.7 million students (mostly high school juniors and seniors) participated in the SAT exam. Administered by the College Board, the SAT is a reasoning test that assesses college-bound students in three main subjects: critical reading, mathematics, and writing. The SAT and the ACT are considered to make up the vast majority of college entrance exams for American students.
NHERI found that 13,549 home school seniors participated in the 2014 SAT. Of those seniors, home schoolers scored an average of 567 in critical reading, 521 in mathematics, and 535 in writing. In comparison, the average SAT scores for all 2014 high school seniors were 497 in critical reading, 513 in mathematics, and 487 in writing.
How Today’s Homeschoolers are Doing on the SAT
Your propaganda comes from a home-skoolin' advocacy site. Dismissed.
Some home-skooled kids do better - some worse .. it depends on the teacher. Most parents are NOT qualified.
What is consistent is that home-skooled children are socially underdeveloped.
Missed the references link didn't ya, douche bag?
References
College Board. (2014a). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors state profile report, U.S. home school students. New York, NY: Author.
College Board. (2014b). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors total group profile report, total group. New York, NY: Author. Retrieved June 7, 2016 from https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/TotalGroup-2014.pdf
Gloeckner, Gene W., & Jones, Paul. (2013). Reflections on a decade of changes in homeschooling and homeschooled into higher education. Peabody Journal of Education, 88(3), 309-323.
Murphy, Joseph. (2012). Homeschooling in America: Capturing and assessing the movement. Thousand Oaks, CA: Corwin, a Sage Company.
Ray, Brian D., & Eagleson, Bruce K. (2008, August 14). State regulation of homeschooling and homeschoolers’ SAT scores. Journal of Academic Leadership, 6(3). Retrieved March 4, 2013 fromCONTENTdm
2014 College Board Program Results: SAT
Those are some real unbiased sources you have there. When are you going to learn that most people are smart enough to spot asinine attempts to pull the wool over people's eyes like you just tried?
Homeschooling is great for some kids. I just don't agree with all of the homeschooling parents who break their own arms by patting themselves on the back for providing bullshit excuses of my they should be worshipped and provided tax relief for doing what the government already provides. If you want a private education for your kids, pay for it. If you want a home-schooled education for your kids, homeschool. Just don't expect me to pay more taxes for your decisions.
If you want a private education for your kids, pay for it. If you want a home-schooled education for your kids, homeschool. Just don't expect me to pay more taxes for your decisions
I don't understand your complaint, all it is a voucher program..
Not to worry then Sassy - Nobody is going to take away your "degree" from Cletus University
Get on topic and cease trolling me.
Then choke on this....home schooled students kick your precious public schooled student's ass. You jack wads just can't fathom you can't get your grimy paws on them
In 2014, around 1.7 million students (mostly high school juniors and seniors) participated in the SAT exam. Administered by the College Board, the SAT is a reasoning test that assesses college-bound students in three main subjects: critical reading, mathematics, and writing. The SAT and the ACT are considered to make up the vast majority of college entrance exams for American students.
NHERI found that 13,549 home school seniors participated in the 2014 SAT. Of those seniors, home schoolers scored an average of 567 in critical reading, 521 in mathematics, and 535 in writing. In comparison, the average SAT scores for all 2014 high school seniors were 497 in critical reading, 513 in mathematics, and 487 in writing.
How Today’s Homeschoolers are Doing on the SAT
The SAT is not required for neither all public school nor home school students. so your point is baseless.
For every home schooled students who made that 521/535 SAT score, there is probably another that cannot spell their own name correctly, but had parents smart enough not to embarrass themselves.
Yeah and public schools are turning out droves of students that don't know math, English, etc. So your point is just as baseless
Homeschoolers do the same thing, but are not held to any standard.
If you could have only seen the homeschoolers who were enrolled in public school after their parents failed to educate them, you would only support the highest standards for them to meet. I had Algebra students who could not add, subtract, multiply or divide, yet I had to teach them.
Well it's not like you're biased or anything. Lol
Progressives are stupid fuckers...I don't know what California wanted. The fire inspection thing was nuts. Knowing the names of the homeschoolers was the thing that had me scratching my head. In Maine, you need to notify your school district if you are homeschooling. All children 7 and older have to be enrolled in school or getting educated at home; it's a law.
California doesn't have such a law? They can't just ask the schools for the names of the kids being homeschooled?
The other thing is, why do they want the names? Don't they think the school districts can keep track?
Get on topic and cease trolling me.
Then choke on this....home schooled students kick your precious public schooled student's ass. You jack wads just can't fathom you can't get your grimy paws on them
In 2014, around 1.7 million students (mostly high school juniors and seniors) participated in the SAT exam. Administered by the College Board, the SAT is a reasoning test that assesses college-bound students in three main subjects: critical reading, mathematics, and writing. The SAT and the ACT are considered to make up the vast majority of college entrance exams for American students.
NHERI found that 13,549 home school seniors participated in the 2014 SAT. Of those seniors, home schoolers scored an average of 567 in critical reading, 521 in mathematics, and 535 in writing. In comparison, the average SAT scores for all 2014 high school seniors were 497 in critical reading, 513 in mathematics, and 487 in writing.
How Today’s Homeschoolers are Doing on the SAT
The SAT is not required for neither all public school nor home school students. so your point is baseless.
For every home schooled students who made that 521/535 SAT score, there is probably another that cannot spell their own name correctly, but had parents smart enough not to embarrass themselves.
Yeah and public schools are turning out droves of students that don't know math, English, etc. So your point is just as baseless
Homeschoolers do the same thing, but are not held to any standard.
If you could have only seen the homeschoolers who were enrolled in public school after their parents failed to educate them, you would only support the highest standards for them to meet. I had Algebra students who could not add, subtract, multiply or divide, yet I had to teach them.
Well it's not like you're biased or anything. Lol
I am not biased. I know the truth because I saw it, up close and personal.
You can't say the same.
Public schools are gun free zones, The less kids in those places means less danger.The local school districts should be doing all of that. It's only possible to be accurate at the community level. The school is the one who needs to know there is a kid out there getting schooled at home. I think they should be REQUIRED to take standardized tests every so many years, with their class, to make sure they're actually getting educated, but otherwise, the school doesn't need to get involved. Around here, a lot of homeschooled kids participate in sports and band, etc. at their local school. The homeschool parents get together and do field trips and get togethers so the kids have opportunities to socialize, as well. It can be a good thing if the parents aren't keeping them out of school to avoid Child Protective or because they're too lazy to get out of bed and get the kids ready.Which begs the question, if they aren’t receiving benefits, why would children need to be registered with the state?
You are a typical control freak... Get the fuck out of people’s personal lives you sick motherfuckerHome schooling has been used largely as a way for evangelicals, the fakest of 'christians', to be able to teach their kids the world is 6,000 years old rather than 4.5 billion and Jesus rode dinosaurs. Among a list of things that are nonsense.
The more fanatical red states have started voting to have taxpayer money paid to homeschooling parents. Home school if you want but pay for it yourself. Stop asking the public to pad your bank account.
Yes, Paying into a pool for anything is a fucking waste of time and money...Then since I have no school aged kids, I should be as well, right?The more fanatical red states have started voting to have taxpayer money paid to homeschooling parents. Home school if you want but pay for it yourself. Stop asking the public to pad your bank account.
I'd be fine with that and in return homeschooling parents can be exempt from paying taxes to to the public school system.
Hence the corruption...No...because we as a society all benefit from public schools even if our own kids don't go or we don't have kids....just like we all pay into roads we may never drive on or police/fire personnel we may never use.The more fanatical red states have started voting to have taxpayer money paid to homeschooling parents. Home school if you want but pay for it yourself. Stop asking the public to pad your bank account.
I'd be fine with that and in return homeschooling parents can be exempt from paying taxes to to the public school system.
Nope...private schools get to pick and choose who they will accept, Mal. And everyone private school around here include in their guidelines and rules that parents HAVE TO volunteer a certain amount of time at the school and in fundraising in order for their child to remain at that school.Why is that wrong? Don't private schools get to pick and choose?
Their house, their rules
That is dishonest.
When you private schoolers run around citing how great your schools are doing compared to public school, at lreasdrt have the honesty to be outright with the facts.
Obviously, when the private school only accepts the best students, its outcomes will be better than the public schools which must educate all comers.
This is why you are such a fraud.
I simply stated a fact, for your information if a parent has the tuition most any private school will accept their child...as long as they meet and sustain the school's guidelines and rules. There are students who struggle at our children's schools, there are bullies, etc but the difference is the schools are not bound to tolerate that shit, straighten up, fly right or try another school
Public schools as they stand right now, have no such power.
You don't have the first clue. Of course you've most likely never dealt with a private school so it's expected
And I pay for a ton of socialist entitlement programs I will never use… So fuck off you whiny little bitchThe more fanatical red states have started voting to have taxpayer money paid to homeschooling parents. Home school if you want but pay for it yourself. Stop asking the public to pad your bank account.
I'd be fine with that and in return homeschooling parents can be exempt from paying taxes to to the public school system.
funny I pay for the tax exemption that Donald gave to owners of private planes
and I pay for the taxes that funded two unnecessary wars based on baby bush's lies.
go figure.
Says who?Vouchers fix all of that. Give the kid a check, spend at a public school, private school or keep it yourself to home school.The more fanatical red states have started voting to have taxpayer money paid to homeschooling parents. Home school if you want but pay for it yourself. Stop asking the public to pad your bank account.
I'd be fine with that and in return homeschooling parents can be exempt from paying taxes to to the public school system.
Sorry taxes don't work that way. Don't ever call the cops or the fire department? Cool, you pay anyway.
Nice try.
Vouchers are how people want taxpayers to pay them to teach their religion to their children at home. Not all but most, that is how the whole home schooling thing got started.
No problem with teaching your kids at home just don't ask the taxpayers to pay you like a public school teacher. You aren't.
And our public schools do so well… LOLSo, we should allow children to be educated by dumbass uneducated people? Really?Just keep your noses out of it government. Just more government over reach and privacy intrusion
SACRAMENTO —They came by the hundreds, perhaps thousands, easily exceeding the capacity of the legislative committee hearing room and making their presence felt throughout the State Capitol. And at the end of a very long day, homeschooling families scored a major victory — defeat of a bill with serious privacy and safety implications.
For more than three hours, families and freedom advocates streamed in front of microphones to state their opposition to California State Assembly Bill 2756. Pacific Justice Institute was also represented and voiced its opposition. Large numbers of opponents made the trek from Southern California, the Bay Area, and every other part of the state. The opponents included a number of professionals, state-credentialed teachers, and self-described progressives and liberal Democrats.
Anti-homeschooling bill defeated in California
What kind of parent thinks they know enough?
Homeschooling exceeds public schooling most every time...So you say, Mal. Where is the evidence of that being true? ( I will add, do special ed homeschooled children get tested at age/grade level like public school special ed students get tested? Do low English Level Learners who speak a different language at home who are homeschooled get tested at age/grade level like public school ELL students get tested?)So, we should allow children to be educated by dumbass uneducated people? Really?Just keep your noses out of it government. Just more government over reach and privacy intrusion
SACRAMENTO —They came by the hundreds, perhaps thousands, easily exceeding the capacity of the legislative committee hearing room and making their presence felt throughout the State Capitol. And at the end of a very long day, homeschooling families scored a major victory — defeat of a bill with serious privacy and safety implications.
For more than three hours, families and freedom advocates streamed in front of microphones to state their opposition to California State Assembly Bill 2756. Pacific Justice Institute was also represented and voiced its opposition. Large numbers of opponents made the trek from Southern California, the Bay Area, and every other part of the state. The opponents included a number of professionals, state-credentialed teachers, and self-described progressives and liberal Democrats.
Anti-homeschooling bill defeated in California
What kind of parent thinks they know enough?
There are over 1.5 million homeschooled children and the numbers are growing. They do just as well as public schooled in testing
Nope...private schools get to pick and choose who they will accept, Mal. And everyone private school around here include in their guidelines and rules that parents HAVE TO volunteer a certain amount of time at the school and in fundraising in order for their child to remain at that school.Their house, their rules
That is dishonest.
When you private schoolers run around citing how great your schools are doing compared to public school, at lreasdrt have the honesty to be outright with the facts.
Obviously, when the private school only accepts the best students, its outcomes will be better than the public schools which must educate all comers.
This is why you are such a fraud.
I simply stated a fact, for your information if a parent has the tuition most any private school will accept their child...as long as they meet and sustain the school's guidelines and rules. There are students who struggle at our children's schools, there are bullies, etc but the difference is the schools are not bound to tolerate that shit, straighten up, fly right or try another school
Public schools as they stand right now, have no such power.
You don't have the first clue. Of course you've most likely never dealt with a private school so it's expected
Bodecea is 100% correct and you should be embarrassed that you are wrong, Ms. "My kids go to private schools".
And our public schools do so well… LOLSo, we should allow children to be educated by dumbass uneducated people? Really?Just keep your noses out of it government. Just more government over reach and privacy intrusion
SACRAMENTO —They came by the hundreds, perhaps thousands, easily exceeding the capacity of the legislative committee hearing room and making their presence felt throughout the State Capitol. And at the end of a very long day, homeschooling families scored a major victory — defeat of a bill with serious privacy and safety implications.
For more than three hours, families and freedom advocates streamed in front of microphones to state their opposition to California State Assembly Bill 2756. Pacific Justice Institute was also represented and voiced its opposition. Large numbers of opponents made the trek from Southern California, the Bay Area, and every other part of the state. The opponents included a number of professionals, state-credentialed teachers, and self-described progressives and liberal Democrats.
Anti-homeschooling bill defeated in California
What kind of parent thinks they know enough?
