Archie Bunker And George Jefferson Would Be Trump Supporters.

gulfman

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If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

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I think 95%+ of citizens of America in the 1970s would be Trump supporters. Very few, if any, would support anything remotely associated with socialism.

Socialism was once deemed honestly for what is truly is, expansion of state power at the expense of individual freedom, innovation and opportunity.
 
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If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

YOu realize those characters were not presented to be the ones the audience sympathized with. They were made the fool in each story because of their intolerance.
 
If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

YOu realize those characters were not presented to be the ones the audience sympathized with. They were made the fool in each story because of their intolerance.
I remember Archie as being an ignorant buffoon and a bigot who would damn sure be a trumpbot today.
 
If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

YOu realize those characters were not presented to be the ones the audience sympathized with. They were made the fool in each story because of their intolerance.

This is a good comment and worth extrapolating further.

It's ironic, because the racists were the stars of the show. The intolerance and even racism they showed, was interpreted by the audience as not being acceptable, but, they were tolerated (that's sort of how people used to be, even A-holes were viewed as simply having different views) and for some reason people tuned in. The question from a social study standpoint is, what was that reason?

You can say the same of Sanford and Son. A show I watched quite a lot of as a kid. Red Foxx was a mean old prick who never bit his tongue, and in fact, his son on the show, unlike these shows; was a logical and full-of-wisdom preacher to the audience. George and Archie had counter characters (such as Meathead and his Canadian gf), who weren't too convincing. Yeah, nobody wanted to be Archie, but who the hell wanted to be like Meathead?

It's an interesting study of humans. Did people enjoy the shows as they saw a little bit of themselves in these characters, or, was it like watching a train wreck? Maybe people just wanted to see the debate between the two unfold and chew their popcorn while deciding who came out on top?

If the writers were not trying to have them shown as appealing they wouldn't have made them the stars of the show. Once in awhile they'd paint them as truly cruel, so that the audience would dislike them fiercely. You'd hear a gasp from the audience, and a silence if George, say, really said something mean to his wife "You've gone too far this time George. We can accept your bigotry, but only if there is humour in it."

Too often though, they were just viewed as "oh, that's just George (or Archie)". You laugh and shrug your shoulders, because they were a reliable source of entertainment on T.V, you got to know them.

This formula hasn't gone away, it's all on how we view them (malicious people or those who can't help themselves?). I think of Sheldon Cooper. Super Genius who cares little for your emotions or opinion. He might be autistic, might not. Bottom line, we find humour in his character, maybe in his innocence ("that's just Sheldon, he doesn't know any better". Notice the pattern?). Not unlike characters of yesteryear though far less edgy.
 
If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

YOu realize those characters were not presented to be the ones the audience sympathized with. They were made the fool in each story because of their intolerance.
Folks laughed and made fun of these characters as representing ignorant behind the times' old fools and buffoons. Today's ignorant fools and buffoons relate.
 
If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

YOu realize those characters were not presented to be the ones the audience sympathized with. They were made the fool in each story because of their intolerance.
I remember Archie as being an ignorant buffoon and a bigot who would damn sure be a trumpbot today.



It was always Biden who was disparaging to people of other races, not Trump. Did you forget Sleepy Joe's close friendship with James O. Eastland and Robert C. Byrd?
 
Sanford and Son was great.Good show.It proved that a black man with little or no education could still make a living by working hard.The junkyard business was honest work.Today Jews run all the scrap yards.
 
While it is meaningless to wonder what long ago fictional characters would think about current events it is certain a guy like Trump would never have a political career in the 1970s.
 
If Archie and George were alive today I'm sure they would both be Trump supporters.The Meathead and Lionel would be Antifa and Biden supporters.

YOu realize those characters were not presented to be the ones the audience sympathized with. They were made the fool in each story because of their intolerance.
I remember Archie as being an ignorant buffoon and a bigot who would damn sure be a trumpbot today.



a wwii vet who supported himself, his wife, his adult child and his ungrateful man-child son in law, with the fruits of his hard work?

Damn right he would be a trump supporter.
 
While it is meaningless to wonder what long ago fictional characters would think about current events it is certain a guy like Trump would never have a political career in the 1970s.


looking at the stories a society tells itself and the way people react to it, is a valid way to learn about or explore a society.


you want to avoid that, because you know that shedding light on the matter, any matter of substance, will be a problem for your political agenda.


my dad's generation was archies. i never heard any of them talk like he did, about "the jews" or "the blacks".


but i did see them work hard and support their families.


that you consider the generation that actually defeated nazi germany to be the villains, reflects on you.
 
While it is meaningless to wonder what long ago fictional characters would think about current events it is certain a guy like Trump would never have a political career in the 1970s.


looking at the stories a society tells itself and the way people react to it, is a valid way to learn about or explore a society.


you want to avoid that, because you know that shedding light on the matter, any matter of substance, will be a problem for your political agenda.


my dad's generation was archies. i never heard any of them talk like he did, about "the jews" or "the blacks".


but i did see them work hard and support their families.


that you consider the generation that actually defeated nazi germany to be the villains, reflects on you.


The "Archie Bunker" character was created by media to mock and poke fun at people who worked for a living and supported their families. Even back in the day, the establishment put a lot more value on sloth and leftard political positions, rather than those who actually worked.
 

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