Are Republicans going to surrender Mail-in Ballots again?

[rightwinger]

They seem to be sending a mixed message.

While Republican analysts acknowledge low Republican use of mail in ballots is losing elections, the right wing fringe still opposes it.

Democrats not only get out the vote, they hand out mail in vote applications.

Then Republicans complain when they lose the mail in vote

 

[JoeMoma]

Ballot harvesting of mail in ballets was one of the major reasons Biden beat Trump in 2020.

 

[rightwinger]

Ballot harvesting of mail in ballets was one of the major reasons Biden beat Trump in 2020.

Can you explain how that impacts the results?

Mail in ballots are bar coded to a specific registered voter. Those ballots are sealed with no indication of who was voted for.

So, if someone drops off ten legitimate ballots to a drop box vs dropping them in a mailbox
What difference does it make?

 

[sealybobo]

They seem to be sending a mixed message.

While Republican analysts acknowledge low Republican use of mail in ballots is losing elections, the right wing fringe still opposes it.

Democrats not only get out the vote, they hand out mail in vote applications.

Then Republicans complain when they lose the mail in vote

Republicans themselves love taking advantage of mail in voting. But just for them.

Trump Surprisingly Just Set A Positive Example

Trump was famously convicted on 34 felony counts, but he's still allowed to vote in Florida.

www.huffpost.com

Elon Musk says voting by mail is ‘insane’ — but he has done it himself, records show​

The tech billionaire voted by mail twice in California, years before he began attacking the option for others.

 

[sealybobo]

Ballot harvesting of mail in ballets was one of the major reasons Biden beat Trump in 2020.

So? If you could run around your rich white neighborhood and get people to vote for Trump, you would. They're already voting for Trump.

But in our hoods, we have a lot of lazy mother fuckers who hate Trump but won't show up to vote. So we help "harvest" their vote. So what?

 

[rightwinger]

So? If you could run around your rich white neighborhood and get people to vote for Trump, you would. They're already voting for Trump.

But in our hoods, we have a lot of lazy mother fuckers who hate Trump but won't show up to vote. So we help "harvest" their vote. So what?

They are still legitimate, bar coded, mail in ballots
As long as they get counted…who cares?

 

[JoeMoma]

Can you explain how that impacts the results?

Mail in ballots are bar coded to a specific registered voter. Those ballots are sealed with no indication of who was voted for.

So, if someone drops off ten legitimate ballots to a drop box vs dropping them in a mailbox
What difference does it make?

Let's say Sue is working to get Biden elected in 2020. She goes knocking on doors in populated areas such as apartment complexes in cities. She has conversations with people and can probably with at least and 80 % accuracy determine who they are going to vote for. If it is likely the person will vote for Biden, she get's that person to mark his ballet and let her deliver it. If the person will likely vote for Trump, she doesn't offer to collect the ballet. Doing this she collects hundreds of ballots, many cast by people that probably would not have shown up to vote or mailed in a ballet otherwise. Now multiply this by a 1000 other Biden workers.

This is one of many possibly scenarios of how ballet harvesting could benefit one candidate over another.

 

[JoeMoma]

So? If you could run around your rich white neighborhood and get people to vote for Trump, you would. They're already voting for Trump.

But in our hoods, we have a lot of lazy mother fuckers who hate Trump but won't show up to vote. So we help "harvest" their vote. So what?

Those lazy mother fuckers that spend no time and effort to know anything about how they should vote is what got us Biden-Inflation. and , millions more illegals crossing the border by electing Dementia Joe and Kamala Hair-Ass.

 

[bendog]

Ballot harvesting of mail in ballets was one of the major reasons Biden beat Trump in 2020.

GA and ARIZ had mail in balloting to help the gop. And Trump shat on it.

 

[rightwinger]

Let's say Sue is working to get Biden elected in 2020. She goes knocking on doors in populated areas such as apartment complexes in cities. She has conversations with people and can probably with at least and 80 % accuracy determine who they are going to vote for. If it is likely the person will vote for Biden, she get's that person to mark his ballet and let her deliver it. If the person will likely vote for Trump, she doesn't offer to collect the ballet. Doing this she collects hundreds of ballots, many cast by people that probably would not have shown up to vote or mailed in a ballet otherwise. Now multiply this by a 1000 other Biden workers.

This is one of many possibly scenarios of how ballet harvesting could benefit one candidate over another.

No different than offering rides to the polls for those most likely to vote for you.

Democrats do more than that.
They go door to door trying to register voters. If a voter says they may not make it to the polls, they are given an absentee ballot request.
That is why Dems kill Republicans in mail in votes.

Once a person receives a mail in ballot, they just need to drop it in the mail. No need to have someone take it to a Drop Box

 

[bendog]

joe mama laughs cause he drinks from the cup of trump.

GA and ARIZ had mail in balloting to help the gop. And Trump shat on it.

joe mamma laughs cause he drinks from the poison cup of Dump.

They seem to be sending a mixed message.

While Republican analysts acknowledge low Republican use of mail in ballots is losing elections, the right wing fringe still opposes it.

Democrats not only get out the vote, they hand out mail in vote applications.

Then Republicans complain when they lose the mail in vote

Mail in voting used to be a conservative position. Like, the more people who vote, the better democracy is. Then the Old Weird Guy decided that was a bad thing.

In 2005, the year that Republicans gained control of state government after decades of Democratic domination, HB 244 was a 59-page bill that contained nearly 70 revisions of state election code, including two major changes: adding a photo ID requirement for in-person voting and allowing Georgians to vote by mail without an excuse, and without an ID.

At the time, Democrats and voting rights groups adamantly opposed both measures. Lawmakers compared the photo ID requirement to Jim Crow laws and warned that Georgia would have some of the country’s most restrictive voting procedures. The addition of no-excuse absentee voting did not reassure Democrats, either. In an eerie inversion of today’s positions, they argued that it would introduce a system ripe for abuse.

“By removing restrictions related to mailed absentee ballots, HB 244 opens a greater opportunity for fraud,” former Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, then a Democratic state senator, wrote in an op-ed. “Skeptics might point out that absentee voters have historically voted for Republicans in higher numbers.”

Among the lawmakers who voted for the bill were Gov. Brian Kemp (then a state senator),

16 Years Later, Georgia Lawmakers Flip Views On Absentee Voting

The fight over election law is not new to Georgia lawmakers, but prevailing views have changed. Republicans passed no-excuse absentee voting in 2005, over objections from Democrats concerned about the lack of ID required to vote by mail and stricter regulations to vote in person.

www.gpb.org

The biggest change came in 1991, when the state Legislature passed a law that stated any voter could cast an absentee ballot. At the time, only a few other states offered no-excuse voting by mail.

County recorders from both political parties broadly supported the change, said Helen Purcell, a Republican and former longtime Maricopa County recorder.

Republicans saw it as a tool to turn out older voters, especially retirees, said Chuck Coughlin, who worked for multiple GOP campaigns, including that of former Gov. Jan Brewer.

"The idea was to give those people an easy way to participate in civic life out here, and that was thought to be a positive thing at that time, and it was and is," said Coughlin, CEO of HighGround consulting firm. (Coughlin is now a "party not declared" voter.)

In 2007, the state created a permanent early voting list so that voters could automatically get a mail ballot for each election.

"It worked like a charm for years," said F. Ann Rodriguez, a Democrat and Pima County recorder who retired after the 2020 election. "It's been very successful."

But then things changed in 2020.

In 2020 Trump and his allies spread falsehoods

Mail voting is popular in Arizona. Some want to ban it

In 1991, the World Wide Web was in its infancy, the Soviet Union collapsed and Madonna topped the charts. In the world o

www.politifact.com

ONE thing racists in the South shudda learned by now is that trying to win majorities with minorities of voters is not a shrewd or civil path.

 

[rightwinger]

Discouraging mail in voting hurts Republicans

They make in person voting an all or nothing proposition

With mail in voting, that sealed ballot can sit on your kitchen counter and you can mail it at your convenience.

With in person voting, you may work late, the weather is horrible, lines are too long at the polling place, you can’t find parking….

Lots of reasons people who plan to vote…..don’t.

 

[bendog]

Mail in voting was never a problem for the gop until the Old Weird Guy became potus and lost an election in a pandemic .... and wait for it ..... told his voters to not use mail in voting LOL

I'd be fine if we just had to request mail in ballots three months in advance, and we all had to mail ours in individually. It won't change anything. I've been in Miss for nearly 40 years, and I've seen van loads of black and disabled people being ferried to voting machines for decades. I've seen "white" churches organize rides to the ballots. It really doens't change much.

 

[JoeMoma]

joe mama laughs cause he drinks from the cup of trump.


joe mamma laughs cause he drinks from the poison cup of Dump.

Mail in voting used to be a conservative position. Like, the more people who vote, the better democracy is. Then the Old Weird Guy decided that was a bad thing.

In 2005, the year that Republicans gained control of state government after decades of Democratic domination, HB 244 was a 59-page bill that contained nearly 70 revisions of state election code, including two major changes: adding a photo ID requirement for in-person voting and allowing Georgians to vote by mail without an excuse, and without an ID.

At the time, Democrats and voting rights groups adamantly opposed both measures. Lawmakers compared the photo ID requirement to Jim Crow laws and warned that Georgia would have some of the country’s most restrictive voting procedures. The addition of no-excuse absentee voting did not reassure Democrats, either. In an eerie inversion of today’s positions, they argued that it would introduce a system ripe for abuse.

“By removing restrictions related to mailed absentee ballots, HB 244 opens a greater opportunity for fraud,” former Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, then a Democratic state senator, wrote in an op-ed. “Skeptics might point out that absentee voters have historically voted for Republicans in higher numbers.”

Among the lawmakers who voted for the bill were Gov. Brian Kemp (then a state senator),

16 Years Later, Georgia Lawmakers Flip Views On Absentee Voting

The fight over election law is not new to Georgia lawmakers, but prevailing views have changed. Republicans passed no-excuse absentee voting in 2005, over objections from Democrats concerned about the lack of ID required to vote by mail and stricter regulations to vote in person.

www.gpb.org

The biggest change came in 1991, when the state Legislature passed a law that stated any voter could cast an absentee ballot. At the time, only a few other states offered no-excuse voting by mail.

County recorders from both political parties broadly supported the change, said Helen Purcell, a Republican and former longtime Maricopa County recorder.

Republicans saw it as a tool to turn out older voters, especially retirees, said Chuck Coughlin, who worked for multiple GOP campaigns, including that of former Gov. Jan Brewer.

"The idea was to give those people an easy way to participate in civic life out here, and that was thought to be a positive thing at that time, and it was and is," said Coughlin, CEO of HighGround consulting firm. (Coughlin is now a "party not declared" voter.)

In 2007, the state created a permanent early voting list so that voters could automatically get a mail ballot for each election.

"It worked like a charm for years," said F. Ann Rodriguez, a Democrat and Pima County recorder who retired after the 2020 election. "It's been very successful."

But then things changed in 2020.

In 2020 Trump and his allies spread falsehoods

Mail voting is popular in Arizona. Some want to ban it

In 1991, the World Wide Web was in its infancy, the Soviet Union collapsed and Madonna topped the charts. In the world o

www.politifact.com

ONE thing racists in the South shudda learned by now is that trying to win majorities with minorities of voters is not a shrewd or civil path.

There is a big difference in absentee voting and bulk sending of ballots from the voter rolls.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

Who cares anymore? Democrats are so corrupt and are trying to win control again for 4 more years. They have done so much damage to our country and continue "nincompoop ideas" like giving illegals $150,000 to buy a home.