Are the McMichaels victims of a biased media?

[Mac-7]

When did Redneck become a racist word?

When you use it to describe white people

What does “ni@@er” mean except as a reference to black people?

 

[Mac-7]

Facts you don’t like magically become opinions so you can ignore them.

Judges do not render facts

Only opinions

 

[Mac-7]

Which side do you want to win.

I’m not sure

If it sets a precedent for undermining the 2nd amendment then we may have to fond a way to save all those liberal babies from being killed in the womb

But lets not jump to hasty conclusions

 

[Mac-7]

Doesn't matter.

Of course it matters

If a man calls a woman a bitch in a fit of anger that does not prove that he thinks all women are bitches

 

[colfax_m]

Judges do not render facts

Only opinions

Finding facts is what judges do.

 

[Faun]

Of course it matters

If a man calls a woman a bitch in a fit of anger that does not prove that he thinks all women are bitches

Moron, "bitch" and "n*****" do not share the same connotation.

 

[Mac-7]

Because you know the law better in Georgia than a judge who serves on the bench in Georgia, right?

Could be, if the judge is influenced by personal or political bias

These people sitting on the bench mostly serve a useful purpose for society but the are not infallible gods

 

[Mac-7]

Finding facts is what judges do.

See post #282

 

[Faun]

Could be, if the judge is influenced by personal or political bias

These people sitting on the bench mostly serve a useful purpose for society but the are not infallible gods

LOL

Slobbers an idiot who himself is biased.

 

[Mac-7]

Moron, "bitch" and "n*****" do not share the same connotation.

Only on your mind

My original complaint was Superbadbrutha using the word “redneck” which is as much a racial slur as “ni@@er”

 

[Mac-7]

Slobbers an idiot who himself is biased.

Fuck off

You're the idiot, not me

 

[colfax_m]

See post #282

I can't stand the new right. You guys act like there is no such thing as truth. No such thing as fact.

You believe anything you want merely because you want to believe it. It's pathetic.

 

[Persuader]

For one, we know
For one, we know they didn't witness a crime.

Two, they weren't told he had committed a crime by anyoneThe liberal media has latched onto crime by anyone who did

That rules out the first two.

What felony did they have probable cause for?

The liberal media has latched onto this incident, and now they’re attempting to turn it into Trayvon Martin 2.0.
An initial review of the evidence and background of the three individuals involved strongly suggested that a former police detective and his son, who had suffered a recent burglary, set out to perform a citizen’s arrest on an individual, who had just trespassed on a house construction site. The trespasser and possible burglar, Ahmaud Arbery was from outside their neighborhood and had a criminal record as a juvenile and as an adult.
When the McMichaels confronted the suspect, Ahhmaud Arbery, he chose to charge toward the McMichaels and attempt to take a shotgun away from Travis McMichaels, which resulted in Arbery being fatally shot.
What have we learned so far
Timeline
1). The father involved in the attempted citizen’s arrest is a former law officer and more than qualified to do a citizen’s arrest.
2). A 911 call described a Black male with a white t-shirt having just trespassed (and possibly burglarized) a construction site.
3). A video of the encounter between Arbery and the McMichaels shows Arbery approaching the White men and attempting to take the shotgun away from the son.
4). A surveillance video showing Arbery trespassing at the construction site is mentioned and later released.
5). The liberal media begins portraying Arbery as a good person who was just innocently out jogging and gunned down by racist White supremacists. (If they wanted to gun him down, why didn’t they just drive up from behind and do a “drive by” on him. Why did they just say “We want to talk to you”?)

It’s discovered that Arbery took a .380 pistol to a high school basketball game and caught by police for that. He also ran when police spotted the gun and first tried to arrest him.
Gregory & Travis McMichael are arrested for the “murder” of the burglary suspect, Ahmaud Arbery. Much like the Zimmerman-Trayvon case, the local authorities saw the shooting as justified, but pressure from the liberal media and Black Lives Matter led to the politcally-motivated criminal charges against the two Whites.
The first district attorney who was given the case to review, noted that Arbery had a criminal record as a juvenile and an adult as did some other members of his family as noted https://wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men-charged-with-murder-ahmaud-arbery/”%5Dhere%5B/URL%5D. He also noted that a liberal activist latched onto the case and began building the narrative that Arbery was unjustly gunned down.
Once the first district attorney recused himself (probably more due to political pressure), a more compliant replacement made a decision to prosecute Travis and Greg McMichaels.
A https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-georgia.html”%5DNew York Times article[/URL] reports “Since last August, there had been at least four calls to police about a man trespassing on a property in the neighborhood… In the weeks before the shooting, Travis McMichael had also called to report that a firearm had been stolen from his truck.”
Surveillance videos have shown Arbery trespassing in the house under construction additional times.
It’s hard to imagine how anyone could fail to see how clear cut and within the law the actions of the McMichaels were. The father was an ex-police detective and would not have done anything that would get himself and his son in trouble.
The truth is that the neighborhood was being plagued by a trespasser and a burglar, who stole a firearm from a truck. Ahmaud Arbery could have been armed with that stolen firearm on the day he was confronted, which is why the McMichaels took guns with them for their citizen’s arrest.
There was never anything to suggest that the McMichaels might be White supremacists –as if the political orientation of an individual should prevent him from making a citizen’s arrest.
Arbery knew he was guilty, which is why he charged Travis McMichael and tried to take his shotgun away from him. He did not want to be detained until police arrived because he knew he was guilty and he knew he would be going back to prison, where he belonged.

 

[Unkotare]

...the word “redneck” which is as much a racial slur as “ni@@er”

Is it? I don't think so.

 

[Mac-7]

I can't stand the new right. You guys act like there is no such thing as truth. No such thing as fact.

I dislike the old left even more

You guys never change

 

[Mac-7]

Is it? I don't think so.

I dont expect libs to admit it

 

[Unkotare]

I dont expect libs to admit it

Go ask a "lib" and find out.

 

[SavannahMann]

never forget that old maxim in the legal world.....no criminal intent....no crime

Any good lawyer understands that juries have minds of their own and a good jury will seek justice....they know that they will have to live the rest of their lives remembering what they have done and no one wants to send some innocent men to jail based on the accusations of some pissant lawyers bowing to political correctness and a corrupt establishment that is more interested in their financial prospects aka protecting their financial investments as in--- they care not if some innocent men get railroaded.

Where did you get that old maxim? I only ask because I’ve heard ignorance of the law is no excuse. In fact. The Supreme Court ruled the exact opposite. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. It did not require intent to violate the law. It was the act of violating the law that was the crime.

When is Ignorance of the Law an Excuse? – North Carolina Criminal Law

An ancient maxim of the law is ignorantia juris non excusat, or ignorance of the law does not excuse. Put another way, it is presumed that the public

nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu

That goes back to Thomas Jefferson. You may not have heard of him. He was a big deal a few decades ago.

You make up laws. You make up legal principles. You make up standards so impossibly high to show they will be found not guilty. If the world was as you say we wouldn’t need prisons. Every criminal would be found not guilty because of one of the idiotic beliefs you have put forth.

 

[Persuader]

Nothing that I am aware of

He didnt get the chance that night

Someone stole a pistol out of Travs's truck a few days before this incident and ahhmaud was a prime suspect because of his documented 'prowls' in the neighborhood.

 

[SavannahMann]

I dont expect libs to admit it

Redneck was a term used to describe poor working whites. The uncouth and uneducated.

redneck | Etymology of redneck by etymonline

"poor and poorly educated Southern U.S. white person, cracker," attested 1830 in a… See origin and meaning of redneck.

www.etymonline.com