Are you a climate change denier?

What you call climate change intelligent people call weather.

How many threads are you going to start on this?
I believe this guy more than i do you


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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost
 
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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

About 80 percent of Exxon Mobil’s research and internal memos acknowledged that climate change was real and caused by humans.

So what?
 
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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.




nobody cares s0n..................
 
"
Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

About 80 percent of Exxon Mobil’s research and internal memos acknowledged that climate change was real and caused by humans.

So what?
They hid and you denied for 40 years
 
"
Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

About 80 percent of Exxon Mobil’s research and internal memos acknowledged that climate change was real and caused by humans.

So what?
They hid and you denied for 40 years



Who cares s0n.............your side isn't winning. That's the ONLY thing that matters!!!:2up::bye1::bye1:
 
"
Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

About 80 percent of Exxon Mobil’s research and internal memos acknowledged that climate change was real and caused by humans.

So what?
They hid and you denied for 40 years



Who cares s0n.............your side isn't winning. That's the ONLY thing that matters!!!:2up::bye1::bye1:
Pendulum swings
 
"
Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

About 80 percent of Exxon Mobil’s research and internal memos acknowledged that climate change was real and caused by humans.

So what?
They hid and you denied for 40 years

What did they hide? That the climate changes? That CO2 plays a part?
Fucking DERP!
 
"
Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

You've been bumping old threads with this same bug up your ass. Go to the Boss thread. I explained how the EXXON science and it's projections were FAR more accurate than the hysteria and exaggerations of the IPCC or US Govt.

And posting this twice is probably good enough. No need to bump every old thread with the same brain fart. .
 
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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Exxon has been lying for 40 years

Exxon Mobil 'Misled' Public On Climate Change For 40 Years, Harvard Study Finds | HuffPost

You've been bumping old threads with this same bug up your ass. Go to the Boss thread. I explained how the EXXON science and it's projections were FAR more accurate than the hysteria and exaggerations of the IPCC or US Govt.

And posting this twice is probably good enough. No need to bump every old thread with the same brain fart. .
If two different liars posted two different threads lying I'll go to both threads and call them both out.

You stay on bosses thread and keep lying there
 
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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

The sea levels are rising, so what?
 
"
Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner (head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University) talked about the IPCC misrepresentation of sea level data: “Then, in 2003, the same data set, which in their [IPCC's] publications,... was a straight line—suddenly it changed, and showed a very strong line of uplift, 2.3 mm per year, the same as from the tide gauge... It was the original one which they had suddenly twisted up, because they entered a “correction factor,” ... I accused them of this at the Academy of Sciences in Moscow —I said you have introduced factors from outside; it's not a measurement. It looks like it is measured from the satellite, but you don't say what really happened. And they answered, that we had to do it, because otherwise we would not have gotten any trend! That is terrible! As a matter of fact, it is a falsification of the data set. ... So all this talk that sea level is rising, this stems from the computer modeling, not from observations. The observations don't find it! I have been the expert reviewer for the IPCC, both in 2000 and last year. The first time I read it, I was exceptionally surprised.


FAEC -

Can spoof data pretty easily. But pictures of plants and trees which obviously didn't develop under sea water, but are underwater now don't leave any room for data spoofing.

Nukutoa-High-Tide.jpg

Beach erosion, so what?
 
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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner (head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University) talked about the IPCC misrepresentation of sea level data: “Then, in 2003, the same data set, which in their [IPCC's] publications,... was a straight line—suddenly it changed, and showed a very strong line of uplift, 2.3 mm per year, the same as from the tide gauge... It was the original one which they had suddenly twisted up, because they entered a “correction factor,” ... I accused them of this at the Academy of Sciences in Moscow —I said you have introduced factors from outside; it's not a measurement. It looks like it is measured from the satellite, but you don't say what really happened. And they answered, that we had to do it, because otherwise we would not have gotten any trend! That is terrible! As a matter of fact, it is a falsification of the data set. ... So all this talk that sea level is rising, this stems from the computer modeling, not from observations. The observations don't find it! I have been the expert reviewer for the IPCC, both in 2000 and last year. The first time I read it, I was exceptionally surprised.


FAEC -

Can spoof data pretty easily. But pictures of plants and trees which obviously didn't develop under sea water, but are underwater now don't leave any room for data spoofing.

Nukutoa-High-Tide.jpg

LOL! Erosion is new?

Say, you should tell us all how much sea levels have risen over the past 8,000 years...THAT'S something to be impressed with...

That's not erosion. That's a low-lying Pacific island and among the first who notice when sea levels rise.

Sea levels are rising, so what?
 
The climate has not changed as it is currently at any prior point in human history. CO2 levels and ocean pH are presently changing at rates orders of magnitude greater than instances in which such changes led to mass extinctions.

But you're not worried. Good to see you've thought carefully about your position.

CO2 levels and Ocean pH are changing. So what?
 
So what? None of that proves that man has anything to do with it.

The argument is not wether climate changes or not, it's whether humans have anything to do with it. We don't.
 
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Executive Summary

It is well-established that global warming has resulted in global sea-level rise. Since 1870, average global sea level has risen by about 8 inches. As the climate has become increasingly warmer, the annual rate of sea-level rise has accelerated. Average annual sea-level rise between 1993 and 2011 was 78 percent higher than between 1961 and 1993.

Four county governments in Southeast Florida, in response to impacts of sea-level rise, established the Southeast Florida Regional Climate Change Compact in January 2010. The purpose of this agreement between the county governments of Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe, and Palm Beach Counties – which have a combined population of 5.6 million — is to develop mitigation and adaptation strategies through joint efforts and to actively inform critical policymaking and government funding decisions at the state and federal levels."
Sea-Level Rise and its Impact on Florida World Resources Institute

Odd how one can deny something people already being effected by it are trying to mitigate.

Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner (head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University) talked about the IPCC misrepresentation of sea level data: “Then, in 2003, the same data set, which in their [IPCC's] publications,... was a straight line—suddenly it changed, and showed a very strong line of uplift, 2.3 mm per year, the same as from the tide gauge... It was the original one which they had suddenly twisted up, because they entered a “correction factor,” ... I accused them of this at the Academy of Sciences in Moscow —I said you have introduced factors from outside; it's not a measurement. It looks like it is measured from the satellite, but you don't say what really happened. And they answered, that we had to do it, because otherwise we would not have gotten any trend! That is terrible! As a matter of fact, it is a falsification of the data set. ... So all this talk that sea level is rising, this stems from the computer modeling, not from observations. The observations don't find it! I have been the expert reviewer for the IPCC, both in 2000 and last year. The first time I read it, I was exceptionally surprised.


FAEC -

Can spoof data pretty easily. But pictures of plants and trees which obviously didn't develop under sea water, but are underwater now don't leave any room for data spoofing.

Nukutoa-High-Tide.jpg

Wind patterns and currents change and sand that was deposited then begins to erode. What do you think happens when beaches erode?
 
This is a new position for you guys. Last year gw was a hoax remember?

Never was to me. My position has always been that Greenhouse gases play a role in the thermal equilibrium of surface temps. But to SIMPLETONS -- that's the MOST important question. It really is not. The questions are whether the MANY APOCALYPTIC projections and theories of GW --- like "trigger temperatures" or runaway unescapable destruction of the planet due to feedbacks and ACCELERATED warming are LIKELY to manifest.

And there I part ways. Because all the models OVER-EMPHASIZE the contribution of CO2. And there is to date -- 30 years after all the hysteria and hype --- only DOWNWARD revisions in the projections out of Climate science. EXCEPT --- that the Exxon Report 30 years agoi got closer to an accurate projection than ANYTHING that came out the "Climate Science" factory.. That's actually NOT "lying to the public" -- it's just incredibly embarrassing to the activists in labcoats that were DRIVING "the total climate destruction" scenarios that you've been fed.

When you cling to just a few factoids and talking points, you're not getting the COMPLEXITY of the issues related to GW..
 

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