Armed security

If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.


Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
 
Of course many places with armed protection have still had mass casualties. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings.


You keep jinxing those countries..... they haven't had a history of mass shootings, yet....but that didn't stop the muslims from murdering 135 people at the Paris Concert and Charlie Hebdo, where they used fully automatic military weapons, and grenades...which are completely illegal in France and the rest of Europe......

You guys..... keep jinxing those countries.... their gun control laws do not protect them, their populations are becoming more violent, and they have just as much access to guns as our criminals do...once they decide to commit mass shootings, they will be even more helpless because in a lot of those places, the normal police are not armed....
Yeah, how many years ago was that? You got your weak gun laws, why are we having so many mass killings? Why are police dying weekly in shootings? How may must die before you realize you are wrong?


Moron.....terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and convicted felons to boot got fully automatic rifles, pistols and grenades easily.....in a country where all of that is illegal....... If they want to do it again, they will do it again.....

Police die here because morons like you support a political party that lets violent killers out of jail over and over again.....
How long ago was that? If only we had years between each mass shooting. A few weeks ago we had 3 in 2 days!

The police die because we have so many guns. Many police killers have no record. Stop the lies, too many are dying.


Wrong, almost all police shooters had long histories of crime and violence you moron.....
Just look at this last mass shooting. He was a concealed carry owner. Not only did he kill all those people, but he shot 4 officers.
 
Certainly, all those "good guys" with all those guns will be volunteering to protect places of worship. Right after they start protecting schools. After all, what else could all their interest in militarism serve?
I thought it was to combat tyrants...or something
 
If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.
We need some serious gun taxes!
 
If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.


Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
Many of the school shootings had armed security. They either didn't help or got shot. Many died.
 
You keep jinxing those countries..... they haven't had a history of mass shootings, yet....but that didn't stop the muslims from murdering 135 people at the Paris Concert and Charlie Hebdo, where they used fully automatic military weapons, and grenades...which are completely illegal in France and the rest of Europe......

You guys..... keep jinxing those countries.... their gun control laws do not protect them, their populations are becoming more violent, and they have just as much access to guns as our criminals do...once they decide to commit mass shootings, they will be even more helpless because in a lot of those places, the normal police are not armed....
Yeah, how many years ago was that? You got your weak gun laws, why are we having so many mass killings? Why are police dying weekly in shootings? How may must die before you realize you are wrong?


Moron.....terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and convicted felons to boot got fully automatic rifles, pistols and grenades easily.....in a country where all of that is illegal....... If they want to do it again, they will do it again.....

Police die here because morons like you support a political party that lets violent killers out of jail over and over again.....
How long ago was that? If only we had years between each mass shooting. A few weeks ago we had 3 in 2 days!

The police die because we have so many guns. Many police killers have no record. Stop the lies, too many are dying.


Wrong, almost all police shooters had long histories of crime and violence you moron.....
Just look at this last mass shooting. He was a concealed carry owner. Not only did he kill all those people, but he shot 4 officers.


He was an anti-Trump, anti-Israel guy.......left wing violence is a real thing........ you need to get your asshats under control...

Over 17.25 million people now have permits to carry guns for self defense...but because of people like you, only the shooter had a gun in the gun free zone.....lives could have been saved if that place wasn't a gun free zone...that is on you.
 
If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.


Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
Many of the school shootings had armed security. They either didn't help or got shot. Many died.


No...they didn't....in fact, the Sandy Hook Elementary school was the only school in the district that didn't have an armed police officer.......that is why it was targeted over the middle school and the high school....another gun free zone tragedy...
 
Yeah, how many years ago was that? You got your weak gun laws, why are we having so many mass killings? Why are police dying weekly in shootings? How may must die before you realize you are wrong?


Moron.....terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and convicted felons to boot got fully automatic rifles, pistols and grenades easily.....in a country where all of that is illegal....... If they want to do it again, they will do it again.....

Police die here because morons like you support a political party that lets violent killers out of jail over and over again.....
How long ago was that? If only we had years between each mass shooting. A few weeks ago we had 3 in 2 days!

The police die because we have so many guns. Many police killers have no record. Stop the lies, too many are dying.


Wrong, almost all police shooters had long histories of crime and violence you moron.....
Just look at this last mass shooting. He was a concealed carry owner. Not only did he kill all those people, but he shot 4 officers.


He was an anti-Trump, anti-Israel guy.......left wing violence is a real thing........ you need to get your asshats under control...

Over 17.25 million people now have permits to carry guns for self defense...but because of people like you, only the shooter had a gun in the gun free zone.....lives could have been saved if that place wasn't a gun free zone...that is on you.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but even when there is defenders with guns, many die! Meanwhile countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings.
 
You keep jinxing those countries..... they haven't had a history of mass shootings, yet....but that didn't stop the muslims from murdering 135 people at the Paris Concert and Charlie Hebdo, where they used fully automatic military weapons, and grenades...which are completely illegal in France and the rest of Europe......

You guys..... keep jinxing those countries.... their gun control laws do not protect them, their populations are becoming more violent, and they have just as much access to guns as our criminals do...once they decide to commit mass shootings, they will be even more helpless because in a lot of those places, the normal police are not armed....
Yeah, how many years ago was that? You got your weak gun laws, why are we having so many mass killings? Why are police dying weekly in shootings? How may must die before you realize you are wrong?


Moron.....terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and convicted felons to boot got fully automatic rifles, pistols and grenades easily.....in a country where all of that is illegal....... If they want to do it again, they will do it again.....

Police die here because morons like you support a political party that lets violent killers out of jail over and over again.....
How long ago was that? If only we had years between each mass shooting. A few weeks ago we had 3 in 2 days!

The police die because we have so many guns. Many police killers have no record. Stop the lies, too many are dying.


Wrong, almost all police shooters had long histories of crime and violence you moron.....
Just look at this last mass shooting. He was a concealed carry owner. Not only did he kill all those people, but he shot 4 officers.


Fully automatic military rifles are illegal in France...do you think these criminals had permits?

AK-47s are status symbols to French criminals.....

Marseille shooting: Gunmen 'armed with Kalashnikovs have shoot-out with French police then drive off'

Armed individuals reportedly tried to corner police who were responding to the sound of gunfire in Marseille, France, authorities have said.

Police said a group of people had fired shots into the air, before police arrived, in what was suspected to be gang-related activity.
 
If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.


Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
Many of the school shootings had armed security. They either didn't help or got shot. Many died.


No...they didn't....in fact, the Sandy Hook Elementary school was the only school in the district that didn't have an armed police officer.......that is why it was targeted over the middle school and the high school....another gun free zone tragedy...
Yes many have. Remember the Parkland officer who hid outside? In the Texas school shooting there were multiple armed officers and they got shot. Lots died.
 
If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Veterans are a good source, most would probably protect schools for free. I would.
 
Moron.....terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists and convicted felons to boot got fully automatic rifles, pistols and grenades easily.....in a country where all of that is illegal....... If they want to do it again, they will do it again.....

Police die here because morons like you support a political party that lets violent killers out of jail over and over again.....
How long ago was that? If only we had years between each mass shooting. A few weeks ago we had 3 in 2 days!

The police die because we have so many guns. Many police killers have no record. Stop the lies, too many are dying.


Wrong, almost all police shooters had long histories of crime and violence you moron.....
Just look at this last mass shooting. He was a concealed carry owner. Not only did he kill all those people, but he shot 4 officers.


He was an anti-Trump, anti-Israel guy.......left wing violence is a real thing........ you need to get your asshats under control...

Over 17.25 million people now have permits to carry guns for self defense...but because of people like you, only the shooter had a gun in the gun free zone.....lives could have been saved if that place wasn't a gun free zone...that is on you.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but even when there is defenders with guns, many die! Meanwhile countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings.


You keep making crap up..... gun control laws in those countries don't stop mass shooters..... they have never had that many mass shootings to begin with, in fact, Britain averages about one every 10 years and the last few years 3 have been stopped before they happened...... and it was dumb luck, not gun control that kept them from happening..... they are increasing over there....their luck isn't going to hold...
 
If all schools need armed security to protect children. And places of worship now need armed security to protect worshippers.

That is a lot of armed security. No doubt there are other places that would need this type of cover.

Where are all of these low wage protectors coming from ?

And who will pay for them ?
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.


Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
Many of the school shootings had armed security. They either didn't help or got shot. Many died.


No...they didn't....in fact, the Sandy Hook Elementary school was the only school in the district that didn't have an armed police officer.......that is why it was targeted over the middle school and the high school....another gun free zone tragedy...
Yes many have. Remember the Parkland officer who hid outside? In the Texas school shooting there were multiple armed officers and they got shot. Lots died.


Yes..... you are a moron, you show it with every post...

There was one armed police officer on a campus of over 3,100 students with 12 buildings on the campus..... and when the shooter came in, he hid..... had normal people been allowed to carry their legal guns there, the shooter would have been forced into his end game faster, saving lives..in the end, he ran away....after the police arrived.....but not before he killed those people in the gun free zone.
 
How long ago was that? If only we had years between each mass shooting. A few weeks ago we had 3 in 2 days!

The police die because we have so many guns. Many police killers have no record. Stop the lies, too many are dying.


Wrong, almost all police shooters had long histories of crime and violence you moron.....
Just look at this last mass shooting. He was a concealed carry owner. Not only did he kill all those people, but he shot 4 officers.


He was an anti-Trump, anti-Israel guy.......left wing violence is a real thing........ you need to get your asshats under control...

Over 17.25 million people now have permits to carry guns for self defense...but because of people like you, only the shooter had a gun in the gun free zone.....lives could have been saved if that place wasn't a gun free zone...that is on you.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but even when there is defenders with guns, many die! Meanwhile countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings.


You keep making crap up..... gun control laws in those countries don't stop mass shooters..... they have never had that many mass shootings to begin with, in fact, Britain averages about one every 10 years and the last few years 3 have been stopped before they happened...... and it was dumb luck, not gun control that kept them from happening..... they are increasing over there....their luck isn't going to hold...
Of course they haven't had many mass shootings, they have never had weak gun laws and a huge number of guns.
 
YES schools need security to protect children and places of worship need security as well. These are the times we are in. The security must wave a metal detector wand for visitors and must check cameras that see the doors.
No...all they need to do is allow their people to carry their legal guns with them when they attend services.......
What part of that is so hard for you guys to understand?
As if on cue: intellectual laziness.


This is as ignorant as it is reckless and irresponsible.


Private citizens lack the training, experience, and firearm acumen to successfully neutralize an active shooter.


Indeed, in such a situation armed worshipers would be more likely to injure and kill each other and innocent bystanders by mistake rather than the active shooter.


Citizens have the right to carry concealed firearms pursuant to lawful, individual self-defense, not act in the capacity of ‘law enforcement’ or to otherwise ‘deter’ crime.
 
Anyone who advocates for more guns and armed security as a ‘solution’ to the problem of gun crime and violence is being intellectually lazy.


Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
Many of the school shootings had armed security. They either didn't help or got shot. Many died.


No...they didn't....in fact, the Sandy Hook Elementary school was the only school in the district that didn't have an armed police officer.......that is why it was targeted over the middle school and the high school....another gun free zone tragedy...
Yes many have. Remember the Parkland officer who hid outside? In the Texas school shooting there were multiple armed officers and they got shot. Lots died.


Yes..... you are a moron, you show it with every post...

There was one armed police officer on a campus of over 3,100 students with 12 buildings on the campus..... and when the shooter came in, he hid..... had normal people been allowed to carry their legal guns there, the shooter would have been forced into his end game faster, saving lives..in the end, he ran away....after the police arrived.....but not before he killed those people in the gun free zone.
He didn't help. And like I said, there were armed officers in the TX shooting who got shot. And don't forget the Orlando night club had armed security. Lots die regardless. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings.
 
YES schools need security to protect children and places of worship need security as well. These are the times we are in. The security must wave a metal detector wand for visitors and must check cameras that see the doors.
No...all they need to do is allow their people to carry their legal guns with them when they attend services.......
What part of that is so hard for you guys to understand?
As if on cue: intellectual laziness.


This is as ignorant as it is reckless and irresponsible.


Private citizens lack the training, experience, and firearm acumen to successfully neutralize an active shooter.


Indeed, in such a situation armed worshipers would be more likely to injure and kill each other and innocent bystanders by mistake rather than the active shooter.


Citizens have the right to carry concealed firearms pursuant to lawful, individual self-defense, not act in the capacity of ‘law enforcement’ or to otherwise ‘deter’ crime.


Moron..... we already have examples of civilians with little to no training with guns stopping mass shooters....you are an idiot.....you guys pretend like this has never happened before and then you make up things that don't happen when the armed citizens end mass shootings....

A civilian does not have to be an expert in Close Quarters Battle, like a SEAL or a Delta Force Operator to deal with a mass shooter.

A mass shooter does one of 3 things when confronted by an armed civilian....they run away, they surrender or they commit suicide...... and the faster you point a gun at them, the faster they end their shooting....
 
YES schools need security to protect children and places of worship need security as well. These are the times we are in. The security must wave a metal detector wand for visitors and must check cameras that see the doors.
No...all they need to do is allow their people to carry their legal guns with them when they attend services.......
What part of that is so hard for you guys to understand?
As if on cue: intellectual laziness.


This is as ignorant as it is reckless and irresponsible.


Private citizens lack the training, experience, and firearm acumen to successfully neutralize an active shooter.


Indeed, in such a situation armed worshipers would be more likely to injure and kill each other and innocent bystanders by mistake rather than the active shooter.


Citizens have the right to carry concealed firearms pursuant to lawful, individual self-defense, not act in the capacity of ‘law enforcement’ or to otherwise ‘deter’ crime.
These people can't even have a training class without people getting shot.
https://nypost.com/2017/05/04/firearms-instructor-accidentally-shoots-man-during-class-cops/
LIVONIA, Mich. — Police say a Detroit-area firearms instructor accidentally shot and wounded a man attending a gun training class.
 
YES schools need security to protect children and places of worship need security as well. These are the times we are in. The security must wave a metal detector wand for visitors and must check cameras that see the doors.
No...all they need to do is allow their people to carry their legal guns with them when they attend services.......
What part of that is so hard for you guys to understand?
As if on cue: intellectual laziness.


This is as ignorant as it is reckless and irresponsible.


Private citizens lack the training, experience, and firearm acumen to successfully neutralize an active shooter.


Indeed, in such a situation armed worshipers would be more likely to injure and kill each other and innocent bystanders by mistake rather than the active shooter.


Citizens have the right to carry concealed firearms pursuant to lawful, individual self-defense, not act in the capacity of ‘law enforcement’ or to otherwise ‘deter’ crime.


Moron..... we already have examples of civilians with little to no training with guns stopping mass shooters....you are an idiot.....you guys pretend like this has never happened before and then you make up things that don't happen when the armed citizens end mass shootings....

A civilian does not have to be an expert in Close Quarters Battle, like a SEAL or a Delta Force Operator to deal with a mass shooter.

A mass shooter does one of 3 things when confronted by an armed civilian....they run away, they surrender or they commit suicide...... and the faster you point a gun at them, the faster they end their shooting....
And typically there is still a lot of dead. Lets avoid the shootings all together.
 
Yes....that is why when we have a shooter attacking a gun free zone, the first thing we do is send in men with guns to stop him.... are you really this stupid?

We know from research that the fastest way to end the attack, the best way to save lives is to push the attacker into the end game...suicide, running away, or surrender, and the way you do that is by immediately confronting them with a gun....by police or by an armed citizen....
Many of the school shootings had armed security. They either didn't help or got shot. Many died.


No...they didn't....in fact, the Sandy Hook Elementary school was the only school in the district that didn't have an armed police officer.......that is why it was targeted over the middle school and the high school....another gun free zone tragedy...
Yes many have. Remember the Parkland officer who hid outside? In the Texas school shooting there were multiple armed officers and they got shot. Lots died.


Yes..... you are a moron, you show it with every post...

There was one armed police officer on a campus of over 3,100 students with 12 buildings on the campus..... and when the shooter came in, he hid..... had normal people been allowed to carry their legal guns there, the shooter would have been forced into his end game faster, saving lives..in the end, he ran away....after the police arrived.....but not before he killed those people in the gun free zone.
He didn't help. And like I said, there were armed officers in the TX shooting who got shot. And don't forget the Orlando night club had armed security. Lots die regardless. Meanwhile countries with strong gun control rarely have mass shootings.


You keep citing armed security, one guard at Pulse who ran away to get help...leaving 300 unarmed people in a gun free zone...

I saw the survivors on the show "Active Shooter" on Showtime..... they each told stories where had they had a gun they could have shot and killed the attacker, saving lives.......
 

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