Assad is an enemy of Isil, but not the West’s ally

[Roudy]

death toll exceeds 210,000 (some estimates 295,000)
3.73 million fled
1.5 injured
6.5 displaced

Because of a conflict. Why is there a conflict?

That's not what we're discussing. Assad is massacring his own people, over 200,000 dead so far. Which is why ISIS stepped in.

That is exactly what we are discussing. One would pretty much have to admit that the U.S.'s credibility in denying its involvement in overthrowing countries is about nil. So to say Syria is the only country in conflict that the U.S. hasn't tried to overthrow is just a tad naive. Especially since it was second on the list of the seven countries we were going to "take out". One might argue that Assad is a terrible guy who should be overthrown but to blame him for starting the war is a false argument indeed.

Understanding Syria From Pre-Civil War to Post-Assad - The Atlantic

The Assad Regime From Counterinsurgency To Civil War Institute for the Study of War

Syrian president Assad attacks rebels as rats during New Year stunt Daily Mail Online

Syria Dictator Goons Attack Peaceful Protesters July Assad Attacks Al Swaida Rally Video - Mp3 Lyrics Albums Video

Let me ask you this, Do you think the U.S. had any role in starting the civil war in Syria?

No, but our stupid president played a critical role in creating this mythical Arab Spring, which turned into an Arab Winter, and has now spilled over into Syria.

Obama = Jummy Carter on steroids.

 

[Bleipriester]

that's strange----I never met a Syrian in the USA who supported Assad----
I met lots who were afraid to say ANYTHING at all about him

"the great president assad" I never heard a Syrian in the USA say
"the great president assad"

But also the Americans that are not of Syrian origin protest:

Never seen a "German" be so in love with a mass murdering Arab dictator. Something is wrong with this picture. LOL

You still claim stupid things?

 

[Roudy]

Because of a conflict. Why is there a conflict?

That's not what we're discussing. Assad is massacring his own people, over 200,000 dead so far. Which is why ISIS stepped in.

That is exactly what we are discussing. One would pretty much have to admit that the U.S.'s credibility in denying its involvement in overthrowing countries is about nil. So to say Syria is the only country in conflict that the U.S. hasn't tried to overthrow is just a tad naive. Especially since it was second on the list of the seven countries we were going to "take out". One might argue that Assad is a terrible guy who should be overthrown but to blame him for starting the war is a false argument indeed.

Understanding Syria From Pre-Civil War to Post-Assad - The Atlantic

The Assad Regime From Counterinsurgency To Civil War Institute for the Study of War

Syrian president Assad attacks rebels as rats during New Year stunt Daily Mail Online

Syria Dictator Goons Attack Peaceful Protesters July Assad Attacks Al Swaida Rally Video - Mp3 Lyrics Albums Video

Let me ask you this, Do you think the U.S. had any role in starting the civil war in Syria?

Obama's lack of action gave assad a green light to attack the protesters.

their contradictory policy and weak commitment to previous countries empowered assad

Oh but Obama was tough with stable allies like Egypt. But when it came to enemies like SYRIA, not a pipsqueak out of him. Had to literally force him to do anything. And still, to this day, he's all talk and speeches.

 

[Bleipriester]

captain Blei likes him anyway

There's more to captain błah blah liking Assad and whitewashing his genocidal behavior than being just a "conscientious German". It goes without saying.

Captain blei is german? I did not know.

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

 

[Roudy]

that's strange----I never met a Syrian in the USA who supported Assad----
I met lots who were afraid to say ANYTHING at all about him

"the great president assad" I never heard a Syrian in the USA say
"the great president assad"

But also the Americans that are not of Syrian origin protest:

Never seen a "German" be so in love with a mass murdering Arab dictator. Something is wrong with this picture. LOL

You still claim stupid things?

Admit it, you're in love with Assad the genocidal mass murderer. People are still in love with Hitler.

 

[Roudy]

There's more to captain błah blah liking Assad and whitewashing his genocidal behavior than being just a "conscientious German". It goes without saying.

Captain blei is german? I did not know.

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

No I know that Assad is no different than other brutal Arab Madmen that have come before him. He inherited his crown from his dad, and is now trying to outdo his father when it comes to how many of his countrymen he can kill and torture. You are delusional.

 

[irosie91]

Captain blei is german? I did not know.

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

No I know that Assad is no different than other brutal Arab Madmen that have come before him. He inherited his crown from his dad, and is now trying to outdo his father when it comes to how many of his countrymen he can kill and torture. You are delusional.

Unless you can come up with DNA samples of each person papa and baby Assad
murdered----Captain Blei will insist that they killed no one

 

[Bleipriester]

Stop being a shmuck and come down to earth.

U.N. Says Syria Deaths Near 200 000 - WSJ

WORLD NEWS
U.N. Says Syria Deaths Near 200,000

Syria Deaths Hits New High In 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/02/world/middleeast/syrian-civil-war-2014-deadliest-so-far.html?_r=0

The figures from the monitoring group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, put the total number of dead.

United Nations News Centre - More than 191 000 people killed in Syria with no end in sight UN

In a third report on Syria carried out on behalf of the UN Human Rights Office (OHCHR), data specialists identified 191,369 people killed between March 2011 and the end of April 2014.

You said Assad massacred 200.000 and I asked for evidence. Now you come up with UN estimations about the casualties in the Syrian "civil" war based on SOHR numbers. Where is even one of that sources saying that Assad massacred them?
Why are you warping the actualities?

Info:
What the heck is SOHR?
"The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) founded in May 2006 is an information office opposed to the Government of Syria. Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising."
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

confirmed dead now is oer 210,000
this article is from 6 mos ago
More Syrians have died in 3 years of war than Americans in every war since WW2 - Vox

There are no barrel bombs Assad s Syria facts - Channel 4 News

Syria rebels call for help against Assad as death toll rises - 12 News

Syrian government forces killing hundreds of civilians in air strikes as world watches Isis - Middle East - World - The Independent

Assad s government still kills way more civilians than ISIS - Business Insider

You are eager to earn the Nusra Medal of Mendacity and Hypocrisy, right?

let your mind expand, captain blei-----recognition of assad for the dog he is
does not magically transform anyone into a sunni dog

You said Assad massacred 200.000 and I asked for evidence. Now you come up with UN estimations about the casualties in the Syrian "civil" war based on SOHR numbers. Where is even one of that sources saying that Assad massacred them?
Why are you warping the actualities?

Info:
What the heck is SOHR?
"The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) founded in May 2006 is an information office opposed to the Government of Syria. Rami Abdulrahman's UK based SOHR has been cited by virtually every western news outlet since the beginning of the uprising."
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

confirmed dead now is oer 210,000
this article is from 6 mos ago
More Syrians have died in 3 years of war than Americans in every war since WW2 - Vox

There are no barrel bombs Assad s Syria facts - Channel 4 News

Syria rebels call for help against Assad as death toll rises - 12 News

Syrian government forces killing hundreds of civilians in air strikes as world watches Isis - Middle East - World - The Independent

Assad s government still kills way more civilians than ISIS - Business Insider

You are eager to earn the Nusra Medal of Mendacity and Hypocrisy, right?

let your mind expand, captain blei-----recognition of assad for the dog he is
does not magically transform anyone into a sunni dog

Lying about the great President Assad and hailing terrorists as democratic freedom fighters does.

There's more to captain błah blah liking Assad and whitewashing his genocidal behavior than being just a "conscientious German". It goes without saying.

Captain blei is german? I did not know.

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Captain Blei, in what madrassa were you educated?

Don´t be so naive. I represent secularity and I am not religious. I believe, however, that there is something beyond but it is surely not like the world´s religions teach as they all are human inventions trying to explain the being. Have you read Seth Speaks?

 

[Bleipriester]

Captain blei is german? I did not know.

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

No I know that Assad is no different than other brutal Arab Madmen that have come before him. He inherited his crown from his dad, and is now trying to outdo his father when it comes to how many of his countrymen he can kill and torture. You are delusional.

There is no sense in repeating over and over again what has been refuted, Roudy.

 

[aris2chat]

CARTOONS Dozens of Artist Depictions of Syria s Assad

Oh, such heart felt love and support there is for Assad

They know they have been fooled and don´t demonstrate anymore.

But what do you say to this:

International demonstrations and protests relating to the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Photo Gallery Anadolu Agency

Syrian Revolution Anniversary 2015

I looked through the list on the wiki page a little. One protest was directly after 40 people were killed from a Syrian airstrike. Seems most all news coming out of Syria came from one man, Wissam Tarif. Who was for a time part of an organization to replace Assad. Tarif was clearly bias. I am sure there were certain parties who were more than willing to print Tarif's reports, even if they were not exactly accurate.

Meet Wissam Tarif the Man Updating Us on Syria - The Wire

He has contacts like I do via twitter from syria. Witnesses constantly reporting from the heart of the conflict, local reporters, officials, NGO personnel, embassy employees, RC workers, doctors, teachers, fighters, children, global news agencies, armature and professional photographers, even syrian government reports. Everyone each with their own perspectives give a broader picture of what is really happening. A more honest understanding of what is happening when you have so many diverse views of events. You get information before the major news agencies report on them. Information that can be used as a basis for further research. An aid to begin from in gathering the facts, to verify the claims.
Often is takes hours or even days for the main stream news to report what those using twitter are witnessing and writing (and sharing photos) about.

Yes, I read that article. The question remains, is he trustworthy. From his background the answer would seem to be 'sometimes', at best.
From the article:

On Twitter, Tarif is a one-man wire service, issuing a frenetic stream of updates in English collected from what appears to be a vast network of contacts in Syria​

A lot of the twitter that I get out of syria is not in english. It has to be translated for the english read. Web sites with news and other information also might not be in english. You thought everyone tweeting from syria does so in english? That the audience is english speaking?
Tarif and I are hardly the only ones following the syrian events via twitter, or that can translate what is tweeted. Some is in french, some aramaic as well. I expect that a few news agencies follow Tarif and other twitter accounts to pick on news before the wire services.
Text, fax, e-mail, e-groups, usenet, blogs, facebook, message boards, youtube, instagram, skype and IMs are also used. Every faction, group, subgroup and opinion share what is happening via computer or smart phone.
There are even apps that warn where there is conflict and road blocks in real time. What areas and roads are in which hands. Same basic principle as traffic reports in most cities, and which routes can be used as detours.
There is a whole community of people that follow the events in syria and the middle east.

 

[Bleipriester]

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

No I know that Assad is no different than other brutal Arab Madmen that have come before him. He inherited his crown from his dad, and is now trying to outdo his father when it comes to how many of his countrymen he can kill and torture. You are delusional.

Unless you can come up with DNA samples of each person papa and baby Assad
murdered----Captain Blei will insist that they killed no one

Civilians are protected by the Syrian government. The terrorists are the threat, not the government. Luckily, government, army and people are a unity strong in will and brave in battle, so that the terrorists will loose the war.

 

[Bleipriester]

They know they have been fooled and don´t demonstrate anymore.

But what do you say to this:

International demonstrations and protests relating to the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Photo Gallery Anadolu Agency

Syrian Revolution Anniversary 2015

I looked through the list on the wiki page a little. One protest was directly after 40 people were killed from a Syrian airstrike. Seems most all news coming out of Syria came from one man, Wissam Tarif. Who was for a time part of an organization to replace Assad. Tarif was clearly bias. I am sure there were certain parties who were more than willing to print Tarif's reports, even if they were not exactly accurate.

Meet Wissam Tarif the Man Updating Us on Syria - The Wire

He has contacts like I do via twitter from syria. Witnesses constantly reporting from the heart of the conflict, local reporters, officials, NGO personnel, embassy employees, RC workers, doctors, teachers, fighters, children, global news agencies, armature and professional photographers, even syrian government reports. Everyone each with their own perspectives give a broader picture of what is really happening. A more honest understanding of what is happening when you have so many diverse views of events. You get information before the major news agencies report on them. Information that can be used as a basis for further research. An aid to begin from in gathering the facts, to verify the claims.
Often is takes hours or even days for the main stream news to report what those using twitter are witnessing and writing (and sharing photos) about.

Yes, I read that article. The question remains, is he trustworthy. From his background the answer would seem to be 'sometimes', at best.
From the article:

On Twitter, Tarif is a one-man wire service, issuing a frenetic stream of updates in English collected from what appears to be a vast network of contacts in Syria​

A lot of the twitter that I get out of syria is not in english. It has to be translated for the english read. Web sites with news and other information also might not be in english. You thought everyone tweeting from syria does so in english? That the audience is english speaking?
Tarif and I are hardly the only ones following the syrian events via twitter, or that can translate what is tweeted. Some is in french, some aramaic as well. I expect that a few news agencies follow Tarif and other twitter accounts to pick on news before the wire services.
Text, fax, e-mail, e-groups, usenet, blogs, facebook, message boards, youtube, instagram, skype and IMs are also used. Every faction, group, subgroup and opinion share what is happening via computer or smart phone.
There are even apps that warn where there is conflict and road blocks in real time. What areas and roads are in which hands. Same basic principle as traffic reports in most cities, and which routes can be used as detours.
There is a whole community of people that follow the events in syria and the middle east.

I now that FSA, Nusra and ISIS boast of their crimes on twitter. So you even know the truth while you propagate in their favor.

 

[aris2chat]

There's more to captain błah blah liking Assad and whitewashing his genocidal behavior than being just a "conscientious German". It goes without saying.

Captain blei is german? I did not know.

He could be German shiite immigrant from Syria. Who knows.

He isn't such a bad guy if he can control his Assad fetish and the whack job conspiracy theories.

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

 

[aris2chat]

that's strange----I never met a Syrian in the USA who supported Assad----
I met lots who were afraid to say ANYTHING at all about him

"the great president assad" I never heard a Syrian in the USA say
"the great president assad"

But also the Americans that are not of Syrian origin protest:

Never seen a "German" be so in love with a mass murdering Arab dictator. Something is wrong with this picture. LOL

You still claim stupid things?

Admit it, you're in love with Assad the genocidal mass murderer. People are still in love with Hitler.

Worse than a dog humping every leg, pillow or towel. He must have orgasms every time Assad is mentioned. The constant panting adoration from ironcross is sickening.
He really needs a new shade of glasses, or to have his computer privileges limited a bit.

 

[aris2chat]

From which kibbutz did you emigrate?

Born and raised in a Muslim country in Middle East. I'm not professing to know more than everybody who posts here, but probably more than most when it comes to my background and firsthand knowledge.

Stop being an idiot.

Than you should know that Assad is the great benefactor of the modern society in the ME and mot a murderer or even mass murderer.

No I know that Assad is no different than other brutal Arab Madmen that have come before him. He inherited his crown from his dad, and is now trying to outdo his father when it comes to how many of his countrymen he can kill and torture. You are delusional.

Unless you can come up with DNA samples of each person papa and baby Assad
murdered----Captain Blei will insist that they killed no one

Civilians are protected by the Syrian government. The terrorists are the threat, not the government. Luckily, government, army and people are a unity strong in will and brave in battle, so that the terrorists will loose the war.

The civilians need protection from Assad. Most of the deaths were at the hands of Assad forces.
Any more of Assad's protection and there will be no more syrias in syria.

 

[RandomVariable]

They know they have been fooled and don´t demonstrate anymore.

But what do you say to this:

International demonstrations and protests relating to the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Photo Gallery Anadolu Agency

Syrian Revolution Anniversary 2015

I looked through the list on the wiki page a little. One protest was directly after 40 people were killed from a Syrian airstrike. Seems most all news coming out of Syria came from one man, Wissam Tarif. Who was for a time part of an organization to replace Assad. Tarif was clearly bias. I am sure there were certain parties who were more than willing to print Tarif's reports, even if they were not exactly accurate.

Meet Wissam Tarif the Man Updating Us on Syria - The Wire

He has contacts like I do via twitter from syria. Witnesses constantly reporting from the heart of the conflict, local reporters, officials, NGO personnel, embassy employees, RC workers, doctors, teachers, fighters, children, global news agencies, armature and professional photographers, even syrian government reports. Everyone each with their own perspectives give a broader picture of what is really happening. A more honest understanding of what is happening when you have so many diverse views of events. You get information before the major news agencies report on them. Information that can be used as a basis for further research. An aid to begin from in gathering the facts, to verify the claims.
Often is takes hours or even days for the main stream news to report what those using twitter are witnessing and writing (and sharing photos) about.

Yes, I read that article. The question remains, is he trustworthy. From his background the answer would seem to be 'sometimes', at best.
From the article:

On Twitter, Tarif is a one-man wire service, issuing a frenetic stream of updates in English collected from what appears to be a vast network of contacts in Syria​

A lot of the twitter that I get out of syria is not in english. It has to be translated for the english read. Web sites with news and other information also might not be in english. You thought everyone tweeting from syria does so in english? That the audience is english speaking?
Tarif and I are hardly the only ones following the syrian events via twitter, or that can translate what is tweeted. Some is in french, some aramaic as well. I expect that a few news agencies follow Tarif and other twitter accounts to pick on news before the wire services.
Text, fax, e-mail, e-groups, usenet, blogs, facebook, message boards, youtube, instagram, skype and IMs are also used. Every faction, group, subgroup and opinion share what is happening via computer or smart phone.
There are even apps that warn where there is conflict and road blocks in real time. What areas and roads are in which hands. Same basic principle as traffic reports in most cities, and which routes can be used as detours.
There is a whole community of people that follow the events in syria and the middle east.

Yes, yes, got it. You and Al Gore invented the Internet. Thanks. I am sure your uncle gave you lots of toys to play with. The issue was that the news agencies were only using Tarif, just like our 'inside' guy from Iraq. Most people hear what they are listening for. You seem to be no exception.

 

[irosie91]

International demonstrations and protests relating to the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Photo Gallery Anadolu Agency

Syrian Revolution Anniversary 2015

I looked through the list on the wiki page a little. One protest was directly after 40 people were killed from a Syrian airstrike. Seems most all news coming out of Syria came from one man, Wissam Tarif. Who was for a time part of an organization to replace Assad. Tarif was clearly bias. I am sure there were certain parties who were more than willing to print Tarif's reports, even if they were not exactly accurate.

Meet Wissam Tarif the Man Updating Us on Syria - The Wire

He has contacts like I do via twitter from syria. Witnesses constantly reporting from the heart of the conflict, local reporters, officials, NGO personnel, embassy employees, RC workers, doctors, teachers, fighters, children, global news agencies, armature and professional photographers, even syrian government reports. Everyone each with their own perspectives give a broader picture of what is really happening. A more honest understanding of what is happening when you have so many diverse views of events. You get information before the major news agencies report on them. Information that can be used as a basis for further research. An aid to begin from in gathering the facts, to verify the claims.
Often is takes hours or even days for the main stream news to report what those using twitter are witnessing and writing (and sharing photos) about.

Yes, I read that article. The question remains, is he trustworthy. From his background the answer would seem to be 'sometimes', at best.
From the article:

On Twitter, Tarif is a one-man wire service, issuing a frenetic stream of updates in English collected from what appears to be a vast network of contacts in Syria​

A lot of the twitter that I get out of syria is not in english. It has to be translated for the english read. Web sites with news and other information also might not be in english. You thought everyone tweeting from syria does so in english? That the audience is english speaking?
Tarif and I are hardly the only ones following the syrian events via twitter, or that can translate what is tweeted. Some is in french, some aramaic as well. I expect that a few news agencies follow Tarif and other twitter accounts to pick on news before the wire services.
Text, fax, e-mail, e-groups, usenet, blogs, facebook, message boards, youtube, instagram, skype and IMs are also used. Every faction, group, subgroup and opinion share what is happening via computer or smart phone.
There are even apps that warn where there is conflict and road blocks in real time. What areas and roads are in which hands. Same basic principle as traffic reports in most cities, and which routes can be used as detours.
There is a whole community of people that follow the events in syria and the middle east.

Yes, yes, got it. You and Al Gore invented the Internet. Thanks. I am sure your uncle gave you lots of toys to play with. The issue was that the news agencies were only using Tarif, just like our 'inside' guy from Iraq. Most people hear what they are listening for. You seem to be no exception.

variable-----you should use a purgative on your constipated brain. You make it
obvious that YOU have DECIDED that all people depend on manipulated public
news sources for that which they BELIEVE-----and only YOU know BETTER.
I got news--------the whole world does not get the comic book version of reality----
that is YOU a lot more than many other people who post here. I doubt that you
ever spoke to a real Syrian in your entire miserable life

 

[RandomVariable]

That is exactly what we are discussing. One would pretty much have to admit that the U.S.'s credibility in denying its involvement in overthrowing countries is about nil. So to say Syria is the only country in conflict that the U.S. hasn't tried to overthrow is just a tad naive. Especially since it was second on the list of the seven countries we were going to "take out". One might argue that Assad is a terrible guy who should be overthrown but to blame him for starting the war is a false argument indeed.

Understanding Syria From Pre-Civil War to Post-Assad - The Atlantic

The Assad Regime From Counterinsurgency To Civil War Institute for the Study of War

Syrian president Assad attacks rebels as rats during New Year stunt Daily Mail Online

Syria Dictator Goons Attack Peaceful Protesters July Assad Attacks Al Swaida Rally Video - Mp3 Lyrics Albums Video

Let me ask you this, Do you think the U.S. had any role in starting the civil war in Syria?

Obama's lack of action gave assad a green light to attack the protesters.

their contradictory policy and weak commitment to previous countries empowered assad

Which countries exactly are you referring to?

BBC News - Arab uprising Country by country - Egypt

You seem to have an issue with coherent thought. Let me walk you through this exchange. I state that it is a false argument to blame Assad for starting the civil war. You respond with four cut-n-paste links with no summary or reasons for their reference. One link was from Daily Mail Online and another was a video. The titles were pretty consistent however so I ask you if you think the U.S. had any role because if you say the U.S. did not you either do not know anything or are lying. You went for the third option, no less ignoble. You reference Obama's foreign policy and refer to some countries, left unnamed. So I ask you to name the countries, still hoping a conversation with you was worth the hassle. And there my hopes were dashed. You once again provided a link with no summary or reason for referencing it. I glanced at the article. I would ask why but what's the point. You should be promoted to running U.S. foreign policy, if you haven't been already.

 

[RandomVariable]

I looked through the list on the wiki page a little. One protest was directly after 40 people were killed from a Syrian airstrike. Seems most all news coming out of Syria came from one man, Wissam Tarif. Who was for a time part of an organization to replace Assad. Tarif was clearly bias. I am sure there were certain parties who were more than willing to print Tarif's reports, even if they were not exactly accurate.

Meet Wissam Tarif the Man Updating Us on Syria - The Wire

He has contacts like I do via twitter from syria. Witnesses constantly reporting from the heart of the conflict, local reporters, officials, NGO personnel, embassy employees, RC workers, doctors, teachers, fighters, children, global news agencies, armature and professional photographers, even syrian government reports. Everyone each with their own perspectives give a broader picture of what is really happening. A more honest understanding of what is happening when you have so many diverse views of events. You get information before the major news agencies report on them. Information that can be used as a basis for further research. An aid to begin from in gathering the facts, to verify the claims.
Often is takes hours or even days for the main stream news to report what those using twitter are witnessing and writing (and sharing photos) about.

Yes, I read that article. The question remains, is he trustworthy. From his background the answer would seem to be 'sometimes', at best.
From the article:

On Twitter, Tarif is a one-man wire service, issuing a frenetic stream of updates in English collected from what appears to be a vast network of contacts in Syria​

A lot of the twitter that I get out of syria is not in english. It has to be translated for the english read. Web sites with news and other information also might not be in english. You thought everyone tweeting from syria does so in english? That the audience is english speaking?
Tarif and I are hardly the only ones following the syrian events via twitter, or that can translate what is tweeted. Some is in french, some aramaic as well. I expect that a few news agencies follow Tarif and other twitter accounts to pick on news before the wire services.
Text, fax, e-mail, e-groups, usenet, blogs, facebook, message boards, youtube, instagram, skype and IMs are also used. Every faction, group, subgroup and opinion share what is happening via computer or smart phone.
There are even apps that warn where there is conflict and road blocks in real time. What areas and roads are in which hands. Same basic principle as traffic reports in most cities, and which routes can be used as detours.
There is a whole community of people that follow the events in syria and the middle east.

Yes, yes, got it. You and Al Gore invented the Internet. Thanks. I am sure your uncle gave you lots of toys to play with. The issue was that the news agencies were only using Tarif, just like our 'inside' guy from Iraq. Most people hear what they are listening for. You seem to be no exception.

variable-----you should use a purgative on your constipated brain. You make it
obvious that YOU have DECIDED that all people depend on manipulated public
news sources for that which they BELIEVE-----and only YOU know BETTER.
I got news--------the whole world does not get the comic book version of reality----
that is YOU a lot more than many other people who post here. I doubt that you
ever spoke to a real Syrian in your entire miserable life

What is the number one news source in this country? second? third? .....

I am very willing to learn. I would love to learn but all I am reading here is the same as I could get from that number one news source, who was that again?

 

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International demonstrations and protests relating to the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Photo Gallery Anadolu Agency

Syrian Revolution Anniversary 2015

I looked through the list on the wiki page a little. One protest was directly after 40 people were killed from a Syrian airstrike. Seems most all news coming out of Syria came from one man, Wissam Tarif. Who was for a time part of an organization to replace Assad. Tarif was clearly bias. I am sure there were certain parties who were more than willing to print Tarif's reports, even if they were not exactly accurate.

Meet Wissam Tarif the Man Updating Us on Syria - The Wire

He has contacts like I do via twitter from syria. Witnesses constantly reporting from the heart of the conflict, local reporters, officials, NGO personnel, embassy employees, RC workers, doctors, teachers, fighters, children, global news agencies, armature and professional photographers, even syrian government reports. Everyone each with their own perspectives give a broader picture of what is really happening. A more honest understanding of what is happening when you have so many diverse views of events. You get information before the major news agencies report on them. Information that can be used as a basis for further research. An aid to begin from in gathering the facts, to verify the claims.
Often is takes hours or even days for the main stream news to report what those using twitter are witnessing and writing (and sharing photos) about.

Yes, I read that article. The question remains, is he trustworthy. From his background the answer would seem to be 'sometimes', at best.
From the article:

On Twitter, Tarif is a one-man wire service, issuing a frenetic stream of updates in English collected from what appears to be a vast network of contacts in Syria​

A lot of the twitter that I get out of syria is not in english. It has to be translated for the english read. Web sites with news and other information also might not be in english. You thought everyone tweeting from syria does so in english? That the audience is english speaking?
Tarif and I are hardly the only ones following the syrian events via twitter, or that can translate what is tweeted. Some is in french, some aramaic as well. I expect that a few news agencies follow Tarif and other twitter accounts to pick on news before the wire services.
Text, fax, e-mail, e-groups, usenet, blogs, facebook, message boards, youtube, instagram, skype and IMs are also used. Every faction, group, subgroup and opinion share what is happening via computer or smart phone.
There are even apps that warn where there is conflict and road blocks in real time. What areas and roads are in which hands. Same basic principle as traffic reports in most cities, and which routes can be used as detours.
There is a whole community of people that follow the events in syria and the middle east.

Yes, yes, got it. You and Al Gore invented the Internet. Thanks. I am sure your uncle gave you lots of toys to play with. The issue was that the news agencies were only using Tarif, just like our 'inside' guy from Iraq. Most people hear what they are listening for. You seem to be no exception.

Computers were part of my work before the internet but I was not involved in the invention. I know people that worked with Paterson, that helped to wrote dos. I was busy with aviation systems on some particular planes back then.