sealybobo
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- Jun 5, 2008
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Ok I went too fast and broke other rules. You guys break rules all the time and your religion forgives all sins as long as you are a believerYeah, right ... you conveniently parse the onion so that you don't have to deal with the center.You, like all theists, seem to be confusing social legal contracts with personal moral codes. Government has nothing to do with individuals following their personal moral codes; rather they are institutions created to enforce, and administrate the social legal construct. I'm curious what your "historical evidence" is that Man is incapable of "policing himself".Frankly, it is moronic to think that man is capable of policing his own behavior. History proves otherwise."God is not necessary to be a good person, or to live a full and meaningful life."
Very true.
Theists have no ‘monopoly’ on morality, virtue, or values.
Indeed, those free from faith often live a more moral, values-filled life than most theists.
There are only two alternatives: God or government, and given the vagaries of government (it is, after all, run by man), God would appear to be the only choice.
Where do you suppose the "personal moral code" comes from? What do you suppose was the basis of the Declaration of Independence? What is the correlation between the Constitution and the Bible?
Evidence? Let me see ....
Attilla the Hun defied all moral constructs ... Stalin did, too. Hitler violated a moral code ... Pot Pol did, too. The list is endless.
As a matter of fact, this morning on the way to work, YOU violated your supposed "personal moral code". You exceeded the speed limit, or failed to come to a complete stop ... near as I can calculate, you violated your own "suggestions" 7 & 8. The list is endless .... you took a pen home provided by your company ... stole it. Is that your personal moral code? It's okay to steal as long as it doesn't exceed $1.59????
You apply your "personal moral code" when it's convenient ... kinda makes you sound like a sinner, huh?