Average Americans are hurting. According to the left they were left behind in favor of the rich!

Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.
 
Liberal Media Scream: Bill Maher cheers economic collapse if it dooms Trump
“I’ve been hoping for a recession — people hate me for it — but it would get rid of Trump, so you shouldn’t hate me for it.”
To which, Barro noted: “Recessions are really bad. People lose their jobs and their homes.”
Maher doubled down: “I know. It’s worth it.”

Like most lefties, as long as it doesn't hurt him, it doesn't matter who else it does hurt, as long as it makes him happy.
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.
 
haha, what’s the problem gramps? Can’t talk to somebody unless they are an American? What’s up with that?
The opinions of foreigners are irrelevant to American politics.
I disagree. Diversity of opinions and perspectives can only add to a debate unless those opinions represent toxic views. Only the small and weak minded fight to limit speech.
Who's limiting his speech?

Gotta love when people manufacture arguments then knock them down and claim victory lol
you stopped engaging with the substance of the conversation to say that his opinion didn’t matter if he wasn’t an American. So not wanting to engage with a world of people based on where they live is absolutely limiting speech. I’m not manufacturing a thing
I discounted his opinion before the subject of his nationality came up. It was my first response to him.

Nice try but still a fail.
im speaking to your statement about non Americans. You can discount people for whatever reasons but to just use nationality was a dumb point and I think you know it
 
Confused about why the left were so confident yet so wrong.
Confident about what?
Paul Krugman: Trump will bring global recession
The economic fallout of a Donald Trump presidency will probably be severe and widespread enough to plunge the world into recession, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman warned in a New York Times opinion piece published early Wednesday.

Calling Trump the "mother of all adverse effects," the Nobel Prize-winning economist predicted that the GOP nominee's administration could quickly undo the progress that the markets around the world have made in the eight years since the financial crisis.
We all know american capitalism tanks cyclically and that we're overdue.

You mean socialism does not?
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever

Oops, how did this happen!?

Second biggest online shopping day in US history.
Mass consumption will save us.

How? Revisit The Powell Memorandum and the Trilateral Commission's publication A Crisis of Democracy.

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The Productivity–Pay Gap

Link takes the data out to 2019, enjoy.

Gee Comrade, think automation could have anything to do with the rise in productivity? :eek:
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever

Oops, how did this happen!?

Second biggest online shopping day in US history.
Mass consumption will save us.

How? Revisit The Powell Memorandum and the Trilateral Commission's publication A Crisis of Democracy.

View attachment 292504
The Productivity–Pay Gap

Link takes the data out to 2019, enjoy.
Step 1. Obfuscate with charts
Step 2. Derail the thread
Step 3. Troll wins
Data is your enemy.

Lies and obfuscation are not "data," Comrade
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.

Savings would help, but spending helps the economy.

In light of the Democrats trying their hardest to destroy the economy, so it seems, most people are ignoring them which is a good thing. Times are good, and looking even better in the future, so having a little extra this Christmas isn't going to kill anybody.

A friend of mine stopped over last night. We don't see each other as often as we like. He got laid off last January which I didn't know. He took a month or so vacation on unemployment, and found a job the day he started looking again.

According to him, with several raises, he's already making more money than the last place he worked. He stated it's a more laid back place and nobody breathing down his neck. Like many Americans who switched jobs, he traded up. It's even much closer to his house which saves a few bucks on gasoline as well.
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.

Savings would help, but spending helps the economy.

In light of the Democrats trying their hardest to destroy the economy, so it seems, most people are ignoring them which is a good thing. Times are good, and looking even better in the future, so having a little extra this Christmas isn't going to kill anybody.

A friend of mine stopped over last night. We don't see each other as often as we like. He got laid off last January which I didn't know. He took a month or so vacation on unemployment, and found a job the day he started looking again.

According to him, with several raises, he's already making more money than the last place he worked. He stated it's a more laid back place and nobody breathing down his neck. Like many Americans who switched jobs, he traded up. It's even much closer to his house which saves a few bucks on gasoline as well.

Far more than just Christmas....when the next recession hits the debt bubble will make the housing bubble look like a holiday.

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Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever

Oops, how did this happen!?

Second biggest online shopping day in US history.
What do you mean “oops how did this happen? “ What are you confused about?
Confused about why the left were so confident yet so wrong.
That is utterly american which is why your "two" sides have nothing but whining fecklessly about the "other".
So you are not American?

Why should anyone bother talking to you if that's the case?

He claims to be from Missouri, but that is questionable. He also claims to fluently speak six different languages, but obviously English is his fifth one.
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.

Savings would help, but spending helps the economy.

In light of the Democrats trying their hardest to destroy the economy, so it seems, most people are ignoring them which is a good thing. Times are good, and looking even better in the future, so having a little extra this Christmas isn't going to kill anybody.

A friend of mine stopped over last night. We don't see each other as often as we like. He got laid off last January which I didn't know. He took a month or so vacation on unemployment, and found a job the day he started looking again.

According to him, with several raises, he's already making more money than the last place he worked. He stated it's a more laid back place and nobody breathing down his neck. Like many Americans who switched jobs, he traded up. It's even much closer to his house which saves a few bucks on gasoline as well.

Far more than just Christmas....when the next recession hits the debt bubble will make the housing bubble look like a holiday.

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Not to worry. We're not going to have a Democrat President for some time.
 
Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.

Savings would help, but spending helps the economy.

In light of the Democrats trying their hardest to destroy the economy, so it seems, most people are ignoring them which is a good thing. Times are good, and looking even better in the future, so having a little extra this Christmas isn't going to kill anybody.

A friend of mine stopped over last night. We don't see each other as often as we like. He got laid off last January which I didn't know. He took a month or so vacation on unemployment, and found a job the day he started looking again.

According to him, with several raises, he's already making more money than the last place he worked. He stated it's a more laid back place and nobody breathing down his neck. Like many Americans who switched jobs, he traded up. It's even much closer to his house which saves a few bucks on gasoline as well.

Far more than just Christmas....when the next recession hits the debt bubble will make the housing bubble look like a holiday.

View attachment 292517

Not to worry. We're not going to have a Democrat President for some time.

2025 or 2029 will be the next one...
 
Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.

Savings would help, but spending helps the economy.

In light of the Democrats trying their hardest to destroy the economy, so it seems, most people are ignoring them which is a good thing. Times are good, and looking even better in the future, so having a little extra this Christmas isn't going to kill anybody.

A friend of mine stopped over last night. We don't see each other as often as we like. He got laid off last January which I didn't know. He took a month or so vacation on unemployment, and found a job the day he started looking again.

According to him, with several raises, he's already making more money than the last place he worked. He stated it's a more laid back place and nobody breathing down his neck. Like many Americans who switched jobs, he traded up. It's even much closer to his house which saves a few bucks on gasoline as well.

Far more than just Christmas....when the next recession hits the debt bubble will make the housing bubble look like a holiday.

View attachment 292517

Not to worry. We're not going to have a Democrat President for some time.

And...the last two recessions started under Repubs.
 
Black Friday shoppers spend record $7.4 billion in second largest online sales day ever
Second biggest online shopping day in US history.


Oops, how did this happen!?


Easy...more and more debt...consumer debt is through the roof...

Living off of debt...

More shoppers plan to take out loan to finance the holidays

With 165 million people expected to shop over this five-day weekend and spend more than last year, borrowing is also on the rise.

While using credit cards is a popular go-to options around Christmas, holiday loans also are gaining traction.

Which is indicative of consumer confidence; the ability to repay that debt.

Which is always the highest right before the fall.

Reminds me of a co-worker of my wife. They were short at the hospital and all the nurses were getting nice amounts OT. This lady and her husband bought a new car with the payments in a range they could afford while she was getting OT. Then when the OT ended this lady was all pissed off and blaming the hospital for taking away the OT.

But sadly our populous is just like our Govt...spending more money during the boom instead of saving it.

Savings would help, but spending helps the economy.

In light of the Democrats trying their hardest to destroy the economy, so it seems, most people are ignoring them which is a good thing. Times are good, and looking even better in the future, so having a little extra this Christmas isn't going to kill anybody.

A friend of mine stopped over last night. We don't see each other as often as we like. He got laid off last January which I didn't know. He took a month or so vacation on unemployment, and found a job the day he started looking again.

According to him, with several raises, he's already making more money than the last place he worked. He stated it's a more laid back place and nobody breathing down his neck. Like many Americans who switched jobs, he traded up. It's even much closer to his house which saves a few bucks on gasoline as well.

Far more than just Christmas....when the next recession hits the debt bubble will make the housing bubble look like a holiday.

View attachment 292517
That's what you want. Each recession has a chance to be worst then the preceeding one because we are now living totally off of fiat currency. We can't even squeeze the old debt out. Remember Paul Volker the Fed Chairman did that in the early 1980's? To blame Trump is folly. Trump is trying to bring back some industry. It took years and decades to lose what we did. It just does not come back overnight. We had some chance to put more resources into payout deficits we owe and did not. Progs want to add massive more deficits. And the globalists are making sure every thing about weather is a global climate one. When we get taxed I guarantee you the working peon is going to ay. Just for that. Then the medical agenda is just as bad even if it has merits. The men and women retiring is adding over three million people to social security and medicare every year. From payers to payees. Disability is about as corrupt as it can be and there are over twelve million people collecting checks and have free medicine. And that is rising fast. The costs of natural disasters is rising also. Include just these in the deficit and it makes it higher. Over ten million new retirees since Trump took office! Are we Patriots?
 

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