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You know with statements like this, it's so wonder you get any respect in these forums at all.. I mean do you think that people are this dumb that you would actually take time to write such a thing as this ?Yes, more prayer would reduce mass murders. If only one of the Newtown victims had believed in God or prayed for help.
2 more shootings today, but everything is just hunky dory for you eh ?"Stuff" is not getting worse and worse. That is your personal perception and has been repeatedly shown to be faulty in this thread.
The video games don't inspire the violence, the violence is already in the individual.
No, but the video games are a tool that can be easily used in the process of needing to brush up on getting the feel of the real experience or coming close to it, so people are defending these games in any form that they are in, and that is disturbing.
Content is the key to change of mindset, but if we are not ready to change what we take into our minds these days, then get ready for this stuff to keep getting worse and worse.
I just heard something about Facebook is trying to make it where one can find out more information on their friends.......HUH? What is this all about ? More loss of privacy for people, more stalking, more rapes, murders and etc. ? This nation has lost it's sanity is what it has done (imho).Facebook has been responsible for more deaths than video games.
Nationally, when it comes to violence, things are the best they've been in 25 years. Murder is down, rape is down, larceny is down, auto theft is down, mass murder is not on the rise.
There are at least 2 dozen links in this thread that attest to this.
Think about why MTV the network, along with the show 's "ridiculousness" and "jack-a-s-s" had to always put the disclaimer for the viewers, to not send any video's of themselves as viewers doing this stuff, or them even doing it themselves because of the viewing of these shows. Undoubtedly MTV and these shows must have figured that they were inspirational to the new mindset found in these young people, so they tried to persuade them not to emulate the show in any way shape or form.The video games don't inspire the violence, the violence is already in the individual.
No, but the video games are a tool that can be easily used in the process of needing to brush up on getting the feel of the real experience or coming close to it, so people are defending these games in any form that they are in, and that is disturbing.
Content is the key to change of mindset, but if we are not ready to change what we take into our minds these days, then get ready for this stuff to keep getting worse and worse.
Many of those studies say that the content and concept can drill into the game player a definition of power, prestige, importance based on success using violence, all concepts reinforced by Catz' Slate article if you look at it from that perspective.
In Mario Brothers, for instance, the object isn't to kill or destroy things, though that could sometimes be necessary, but the object is to solve the puzzle and get Mario from Point A to Point B. It becomes progressively more difficult to do that, but the one who solves the puzzle does so through creativity and innovation and figuring out how to solve the problems presented. In my opinion, that is a healthy game that reinforces positive concepts of problem solving and success.
Contrast that to a game in which almost the whole concept is to destroy things and people in order to succeed. If you couple that with showing the most violent types on television and in the movies as heroes and the more violent, the more successful and admirable they are, I can see how that might translate thoughts into a young mind that wasn't quite stable. And how he might see himself elevated to hero status, admired by the world through mass violence.
If we ignore the mental disintegration brought about by the things in which we know of, and that is found more and more prevalent in this nation's society, then we are complete fools. These things in which are being geared towards those whom would not have had any of these problems to begin with, but yet all due to their exposures in which they are having access to now more and more in society, and far more easier, and at younger and younger ages, especially by what is being found within the content of these things that which are causing such problems, then we are doomed as a people, and as a nation, and so it is really that simple.When I was a kid we played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians and things such as that. We had our cap pistols, toy rifles and all sorts of garb like that. We played Army and had fake plastic hand grenades and toy mines. We had a great time playing those kind of things and just about every boy in the neighborhood played those kind of things. I don't know of anybody that I used to play with growing up that turned out to be a mass murderer or that has even shot somebody outside of being a member of the military. I think video games played by mentally healthy kids and young adults are ok. I guess the point I am trying to make is this kind of activity, i.e., war games, cowboy and indians, cops and robbers and even violent video games to me doesn't seem like a problem. I think the problem is two fold. There are mentally unstable people in the world, that no matter what you do short of locking them up, will eventually hurt somebody or themselves. There are also some very evil people in the world that have no problem except for being mean by nature and sometimes they hurt just to cause the pain. I think our efforts should be geared more to mental health screenings, closely monitoring those with a diagnosis of mental illness, and prevention measures to ensure these types of people do not cause harm. There are more than enough gun laws in the country to ensure that only those authorized to buy a gun can obtain one. We also need to very heavily punish those that commit crimes using a gun.
You know with statements like this, it's so wonder you get any respect in these forums at all.. I mean do you think that people are this dumb that you would actually take time to write such a thing as this ?Yes, more prayer would reduce mass murders. If only one of the Newtown victims had believed in God or prayed for help.
And there are just as many references to expert opinions who say that the motiveless mass murders as we saw at Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, as examples, are on the rise whether or not all other forms of crime are decreasing.
Think about why MTV the network, along with the show 's "ridiculousness" and "jack-a-s-s" had to always put the disclaimer for the viewers, to not send any video's of themselves as viewers doing this stuff, or them even doing it themselves because of the viewing of these shows. Undoubtedly MTV and these shows must have figured that they were inspirational to the new mindset found in these young people, so they tried to persuade them not to emulate the show in any way shape or form.No, but the video games are a tool that can be easily used in the process of needing to brush up on getting the feel of the real experience or coming close to it, so people are defending these games in any form that they are in, and that is disturbing.
Content is the key to change of mindset, but if we are not ready to change what we take into our minds these days, then get ready for this stuff to keep getting worse and worse.
Many of those studies say that the content and concept can drill into the game player a definition of power, prestige, importance based on success using violence, all concepts reinforced by Catz' Slate article if you look at it from that perspective.
In Mario Brothers, for instance, the object isn't to kill or destroy things, though that could sometimes be necessary, but the object is to solve the puzzle and get Mario from Point A to Point B. It becomes progressively more difficult to do that, but the one who solves the puzzle does so through creativity and innovation and figuring out how to solve the problems presented. In my opinion, that is a healthy game that reinforces positive concepts of problem solving and success.
Contrast that to a game in which almost the whole concept is to destroy things and people in order to succeed. If you couple that with showing the most violent types on television and in the movies as heroes and the more violent, the more successful and admirable they are, I can see how that might translate thoughts into a young mind that wasn't quite stable. And how he might see himself elevated to hero status, admired by the world through mass violence.
Then we had the incidents with Beavis and Butt Head, where the young one viewing the show burned down the families house, because he saw them making pyro-maniac's or arson seem cool and hip when playing with matches on that show. That was the beginning I think for me becoming aware of the influence upon the youth that were coming up now or back then, in which they were coming up way different than we did back in the old days, and it has been escalating ever since into the wrong directions.
When I was a kid we played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians and things such as that. We had our cap pistols, toy rifles and all sorts of garb like that. We played Army and had fake plastic hand grenades and toy mines. We had a great time playing those kind of things and just about every boy in the neighborhood played those kind of things. I don't know of anybody that I used to play with growing up that turned out to be a mass murderer or that has even shot somebody outside of being a member of the military. I think video games played by mentally healthy kids and young adults are ok. I guess the point I am trying to make is this kind of activity, i.e., war games, cowboy and indians, cops and robbers and even violent video games to me doesn't seem like a problem. I think the problem is two fold. There are mentally unstable people in the world, that no matter what you do short of locking them up, will eventually hurt somebody or themselves. There are also some very evil people in the world that have no problem except for being mean by nature and sometimes they hurt just to cause the pain. I think our efforts should be geared more to mental health screenings, closely monitoring those with a diagnosis of mental illness, and prevention measures to ensure these types of people do not cause harm. There are more than enough gun laws in the country to ensure that only those authorized to buy a gun can obtain one. We also need to very heavily punish those that commit crimes using a gun.
It' simply a game of cover up the trail is all that we see in all of this stuff, and then to blame objects instead of people and their cultural ways in which they have created these days.Nationally, when it comes to violence, things are the best they've been in 25 years. Murder is down, rape is down, larceny is down, auto theft is down, mass murder is not on the rise.
There are at least 2 dozen links in this thread that attest to this.
And there are just as many references to expert opinions who say that the motiveless mass murders as we saw at Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, as examples, are on the rise whether or not all other forms of crime are decreasing.
Do you have any objection of exploring such a concept for accuracy? Or do you think others should not discuss or research it because your mind is already made up?
Pssst. Clue to Catz. Foxfyre was not looking for any kind of debate here.
Good advice. However I am already spoiled having encountered on line friends who actually do have a clue, who can articulate an intelligent opinion, and who enjoy actually exploring a subject and testing to see whether their point of view can hold up against those who argue against it. And I really appreciate them. And sometimes get impatient with those who don't share my enthusiasm for that sort of thing. Which is my bad, I know.
