Band disinvited from State Fair due to name

[Rustic]

So you think the State can ignore the 1st amendment?

Mel Brooks made a whole movie using the word ******, actors said it. Are they also to be banned?

How is this a 1st amendment issue? By that standard any band should be able to perform. Movies also have nudity, should the state fair allow that as well?

They approved them, then removed them based on the content of their band's name.

And the confederate flag. I think the venue has the right to remove the band, many people feel the confederate flag is a sign of hate and slavery. If a band showed up with a swastika they also would be removed. I know you're not going to like that but that doesn't mean the state fair has to showcase and pay the band to play. Plus they found another venue anyway.

Lol
They absolutely do have the right to pick who they want and disinvite who they want.
But that is not the point…

Political correctness makes people pussy whipped bitches and fucking retarded...

It sure does make people pussy whipped bitches, you guys haven't stopped crying since you heard about it.

Lol
Who the hell is offended by a flag, pussy whipped bitches?

 

[HappyJoy]

swastika or Confederate Flag , makes no difference to me . Both should be allowed in a FREE Country .

Technically they are, they just aren't state sponsored.

Only pussy whipped bitches are offended by a flag, And political correctness does make people fucking retarded

You should put that on a bumper sticker.

 

[HenryBHough]

Overwrought liberals can find an excuse in any artist's name to try to impose their ideology on them. The only way to avoid being shit on like that is to refuse to participate at all.

 

[Rustic]

Well, I believe they did find somewhere else to play, however I can understand they are due to be paid if they were initially booked.

Lot's of people don't care to see the confederate flag for what is supposed to be a state wide event for all of its citizens to enjoy. The fact that you can't understand that doesn't really matter, the band won't be at the fair.

Actually this fair is for the Southern Part of the State, which ID's more with St Louis and Nashville than Chicago. There is one in Springfield for people in the northern part of the State.

Try educating yourself on the subject for once.

-------------------------- sounds to me like its censorship based on the Bands Name . And as I said , looks like a pretty nasty 'pc' nation that you guys are building HJoy .

Nobody is denying the right for the band to exist or call themselves whatever they want. Doesn't give them a pass to appear anywhere they want thought. I'm sure the fair is simply looking for non-controversial entertainment, not making a political statement. I can understand that.

-------------------------------- By the arguments I see in this thread condoning Censorship my main point remains . Its a heckuva 'PC' and Unfree Nation that YOU guys are building HJoy .

I don't see how the state paying performers who use symbols that represent slavery (whatever the intention of the band) is out of line. The Confederate Railroad will do just fine, plenty of other venues. If you're concerned that symbols of hatred and enslavement aren't as accepted as they used to be then I guess you're going to have to deal with it.

Only pussy whipped bitches are moved by political correctness, And political correctness makes people fucking retarded

 

[Rustic]

I've fallen into a rut with my insults of useless protoplasm like Happy-jackoff, Trying to up my game.

Your name calling just looks like juvenile frustration, no harm done.

And your positions look like sucking Stalin's cock.

See what I mean? Your impotent rage doesn't mean anything to me.

Yet, you keep responding, you miserable little KGB wanna be.

Of course I'm going to respond. Putin was in the KGB, right? Apparently according to many in the right I'm in good company.

...and still no Russian connection

 

[HappyJoy]

Actually this fair is for the Southern Part of the State, which ID's more with St Louis and Nashville than Chicago. There is one in Springfield for people in the northern part of the State.

Try educating yourself on the subject for once.

-------------------------- sounds to me like its censorship based on the Bands Name . And as I said , looks like a pretty nasty 'pc' nation that you guys are building HJoy .

Nobody is denying the right for the band to exist or call themselves whatever they want. Doesn't give them a pass to appear anywhere they want thought. I'm sure the fair is simply looking for non-controversial entertainment, not making a political statement. I can understand that.

-------------------------------- By the arguments I see in this thread condoning Censorship my main point remains . Its a heckuva 'PC' and Unfree Nation that YOU guys are building HJoy .

I don't see how the state paying performers who use symbols that represent slavery (whatever the intention of the band) is out of line. The Confederate Railroad will do just fine, plenty of other venues. If you're concerned that symbols of hatred and enslavement aren't as accepted as they used to be then I guess you're going to have to deal with it.

Only pussy whipped bitches are moved by political correctness, And political correctness makes people fucking retarded

Eh, I can understand the state fair wanting to be non-controversial just like I can understand if they didn't want Ice Tea performing Cop Killer at the state fair.

 

[Rustic]

Government can't make decisions on content with regards to speech in general, unless there is another compelling interest.

They can. The state apparently is concerned that the rebel flag is a symbol of hate and slavery. Since many of the states citizens are black and the purpose is to entertain their citizens I think they have a point in dis inviting them. They still get paid.

The State was wrong to invite and disinvite over the name of the band, and one journalist being a snarky asshole.

Sure, the state screwed up, I agree with that. They should have never invited them and put a little extra scrutiny in who they originally booked. Or, if they don't care about the rebel flag then just let them play. It looks clumsy, no doubt.

Again, if we go by that Standard, you should change your avatar because it offends me.

Last I checked the government isn't telling anyone on this board what avatar they can use. Odd argument on your part.

For some it is. Sorry, but the world is not run by the most easily offended.

Apparently enough to earn a dis invite.

It's the entire concept of using offense as a weapon. Figures you either aren't grasping it, or refuse to admit it.

Your offense isn't a weapon, it's an admission.

So if you are offended by the bands name, it's an admission you are wrong.

Nice job

How about southern radio stations banning the Dixie Chicks because they spoke out against GWB?

Lol
George W. Bush was a progressive, a one world government sort of guy just like his fucked up dad

 

[HappyJoy]

They can. The state apparently is concerned that the rebel flag is a symbol of hate and slavery. Since many of the states citizens are black and the purpose is to entertain their citizens I think they have a point in dis inviting them. They still get paid.

Sure, the state screwed up, I agree with that. They should have never invited them and put a little extra scrutiny in who they originally booked. Or, if they don't care about the rebel flag then just let them play. It looks clumsy, no doubt.

Last I checked the government isn't telling anyone on this board what avatar they can use. Odd argument on your part.

For some it is. Sorry, but the world is not run by the most easily offended.

Apparently enough to earn a dis invite.

It's the entire concept of using offense as a weapon. Figures you either aren't grasping it, or refuse to admit it.

Your offense isn't a weapon, it's an admission.

So if you are offended by the bands name, it's an admission you are wrong.

Nice job

How about southern radio stations banning the Dixie Chicks because they spoke out against GWB?

Lol
George W. Bush was a progressive, a one world government sort of guy just like his fucked up dad

Great look forward to you never votng for another Republican again.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[pismoe]

Overwrought liberals can find an excuse in any artist's name to try to impose their ideology on them. The only way to avoid being shit on like that is to refuse to participate at all.

--------------------------- that's the way I handle things by exercising non participation HHough .

 

[Rustic]

-------------------------- sounds to me like its censorship based on the Bands Name . And as I said , looks like a pretty nasty 'pc' nation that you guys are building HJoy .

Nobody is denying the right for the band to exist or call themselves whatever they want. Doesn't give them a pass to appear anywhere they want thought. I'm sure the fair is simply looking for non-controversial entertainment, not making a political statement. I can understand that.

-------------------------------- By the arguments I see in this thread condoning Censorship my main point remains . Its a heckuva 'PC' and Unfree Nation that YOU guys are building HJoy .

I don't see how the state paying performers who use symbols that represent slavery (whatever the intention of the band) is out of line. The Confederate Railroad will do just fine, plenty of other venues. If you're concerned that symbols of hatred and enslavement aren't as accepted as they used to be then I guess you're going to have to deal with it.

Only pussy whipped bitches are moved by political correctness, And political correctness makes people fucking retarded

Eh, I can understand the state fair wanting to be non-controversial just like I can understand if they didn't want Ice Tea performing Cop Killer at the state fair.

Lol
Political correctness has made the word racism meaningless, Name-calling and flags are not real racism. I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, I was called a prairie niggger countless times never once was I offended by such an Insignificant weak word.
But then again the old saying sticks and stones may break my bones and words will never hurt me was real... political correctness is not reality.

Political Correctness is a way for people to control other people they disagree with... It is truly evil.

Snowflakes get their panties in a bunch over stuff that means nothing… Socialists/progressive’s/liberals are about as pussy whipped as they can get, I don’t know how they can get any worse.

 

[Rustic]

For some it is. Sorry, but the world is not run by the most easily offended.

Apparently enough to earn a dis invite.

It's the entire concept of using offense as a weapon. Figures you either aren't grasping it, or refuse to admit it.

Your offense isn't a weapon, it's an admission.

So if you are offended by the bands name, it's an admission you are wrong.

Nice job

How about southern radio stations banning the Dixie Chicks because they spoke out against GWB?

Lol
George W. Bush was a progressive, a one world government sort of guy just like his fucked up dad

Great look forward to you never votng for another Republican again.

All career politicians are the same no matter what side of the aisle they pick

 

[HenryBHough]

--------------------------- that's the way I handle things by exercising non participation HHough .

Thank you for participating in this thread!
Your trophy is in the mail.

 

[pismoe]

--------------------------- that's the way I handle things by exercising non participation HHough .

Thank you for participating in this thread!
Your trophy is in the mail.

------------------- [chuckle] thankyou HHough .

 

[HenryBHough]

------------------- [chuckle] thankyou HHough .

Thank you for taking that in the spirit intended.

When you get trophy ring be careful about wearing it for more than a few minutes. It'll turn green and fall off. The finger. Not the ring.

I have given fifty or so to liberals in "appreciation" of some of their pronouncements - notably on Global-What-The-Fuck. For safety they are all accompanied by instructions - written in 37 languages - none of which are English.

 

[Toronado3800]

It looks like some government ninnys at the State Department of Agriculture are trying to out-woke the wokiest.

Country Band "Confederate Railroad" Booted From Illinois State Fair Over Name

"The Illinois Department of Agriculture has removed Confederate Railroad from our 2019 Du Quoin State Fair Grandstand lineup," said State Fair Manager Josh Gross, adding "While every artist has a right to expression, we believe this decision is in the best interest of serving all the people in our state."

Since they are a government entity, they are held to greater scrutiny than say a private theater would be when making content based decisions on who can play at a given event.

To their credit, they are asking the other groups invited to play NOT to boycott the event.

This will take a few sentences to round about to my point:

The Confederate imagery stuff is touchy. I figure any symbols of a country which was formed to continue enslaving others is going to be ridiculed. The Stars & Bars are a sign of the mentality of the Confederate elite.

I'm not totally crazy though with the band names and the old confederate air force name. Heck, I even rather like this song despite its "take your rebel heart" line. Girl at least makes videos with black guys so I'm gonna assume "rebel heart" isn't a reference to honor the slave owners of the old south.

To the point,

-if the Confederate Railroad guys can stand up and mention, "Hey, we donate our time to this that and this 'black' cause and Jim-bo here has a black wife, we're obviously not racists" or whatever then the state screwed up.

-if your new band, "NAZI Panzer Revolution" or "Stalin Purge" got turned down from playing at the state fair then you just might have to show how you aren't a NAZI or Commie or something.....

---------------------------- you just want the Band to do some Proper kowtowing and azz kissing eh Toronado ??

Yeah, if I name my band "Pol Pot's Henchmen" I should probably expect to explain myself a bit. Same with these Confederate fellows. Notice I didn't say they were racist pigs or anything. Just that some things need explaining.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't find something like that in the underground scene.

Sorry, but being slave owners in the mid 1800's does not equate with killing of 3 million or so of your own people to prove an economic and social point.

The other side doesn't want an explanation, they want us to shut up.

I'm not sure who "us" is in your statement.

If it makes you feel better I'm not a party member and my love of the military, the death penalty, social security. My self awareness and hatred of hypocrisy leave me siding with a reality where I believe a bunch of former slaves and the outcasts of Europe got together and created a superpower which helped defeat tyranny in the 20th century just a hundred years after evolving from slave holders and the virtual genocide out manifest destiny inflicted on the natives.

 

[Yarddog]

Makes sense to me.....

to me too---but they should have the opportunity to apply under a different name

Dixie Democrats.

Speaking of which.... how long before they ban Dixie cups? or have they done that already?

 

[Snouter]

A giant Confederate Flag, which is an awesome flag, and young white women in Oakland, CA wearing bikinis, not fearing assault, nor fearing rape, not fearing murder, for being white and good looking. Where did the time go?

 

[Ridgerunner]

I've spent a lot of time in Southern Illinois, it's not exactly a forward thinking part of the country.

What's a Saluki?

Where are the apple knockers from and what did they do?

You have shown yourself to be a elitist pos...

 

[IM2]

What would be said if a band ISIS Railroad was done the same way?