Banned for Reading Bible BEFORE Class

[irosie91]

depends on the circumstances. I would not wave a copy of playboy around
in a church

A church is private property.

And a bible isn't playboy.

Again. Why should students have to hide the covers of the books they are reading?

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

nope----you have engaged in conjecture

 

[irosie91]

Irosie gets a bit teste, doesn't she...

I have never been a TESTIS

 

[koshergrl]

A church is private property.

And a bible isn't playboy.

Again. Why should students have to hide the covers of the books they are reading?

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

nope----you have engaged in conjecture

No I didn't. YOU did. I just said there is no way a student should be required to hide his book titles from his teachers at a college in the US. You are the one who is *conjecturing* with the *annoyance* thing and the pretense that he was *disrupting* the class, and the whole weird *playboy in church* thing.

Stop conjecturing, you conjecturer. I conjectured absolutely nothing, you retard.

 

[irosie91]

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

nope----you have engaged in conjecture

No I didn't. YOU did. I just said there is no way a student should be required to hide his book titles from his teachers at a college in the US. You are the one who is *conjecturing* with the *annoyance* thing and the pretense that he was *disrupting* the class, and the whole weird *playboy in church* thing.

Stop conjecturing, you conjecturer. I conjectured absolutely nothing, you retard.

wrong again-----your conjecture is that the prof. has no acceptable reason
for jettisoning the student------In fact you seem to believe that a prof. has no
such right

 

[koshergrl]

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

nope----you have engaged in conjecture

No I didn't. YOU did. I just said there is no way a student should be required to hide his book titles from his teachers at a college in the US. You are the one who is *conjecturing* with the *annoyance* thing and the pretense that he was *disrupting* the class, and the whole weird *playboy in church* thing.

Stop conjecturing, you conjecturer. I conjectured absolutely nothing, you retard.

wrong again-----your conjecture is that the prof. has no acceptable reason
for jettisoning the student------In fact you seem to believe that a prof. has no
such right

That's not conjecture, you moron.

Conjecture is when you imagine a reason exists OUTSIDE the stated information in the article, based on absolutely nothing.

I based my opinion that the professor is a mentally ill idiot on the fact that she wigged out at the sight of a bible..which is what the article states. There is sufficient information in the article for me to know that the kid wasn't reading FROM the bible, and the kid wasn't DISRUPTING the class.The article explains the circumstances sufficiently for me to rest assured that the kid was indeed just sitting there with a bible in front of him.

You, on the other hand, assume there must be a lot more going on that ISN'T in the article. There's no reason in that article for you to assume that, it is an unreasonable assumption based on absolutely nothing and thus...conjecture.

Get a fucking dictionary.

 

[rightwinger]

depends on the circumstances. I would not wave a copy of playboy around
in a church

A church is private property.

And a bible isn't playboy.

Again. Why should students have to hide the covers of the books they are reading?

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

Poor, poor snowflake

Liberals are picking on him. Maybe the school can find him a safe space

 

[irosie91]

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

nope----you have engaged in conjecture

No I didn't. YOU did. I just said there is no way a student should be required to hide his book titles from his teachers at a college in the US. You are the one who is *conjecturing* with the *annoyance* thing and the pretense that he was *disrupting* the class, and the whole weird *playboy in church* thing.

Stop conjecturing, you conjecturer. I conjectured absolutely nothing, you retard.

wrong again-----your conjecture is that the prof. has no acceptable reason
for jettisoning the student------In fact you seem to believe that a prof. has no
such right

That's not conjecture, you moron.

Conjecture is when you imagine a reason exists OUTSIDE the stated information in the article, based on absolutely nothing.

I based my opinion that the professor is a mentally ill idiot on the fact that she wigged out at the sight of a bible..which is what the article states. There is sufficient information in the article for me to know that the kid wasn't reading FROM the bible, and the kid wasn't DISRUPTING the class.The article explains the circumstances sufficiently for me to rest assured that the kid was indeed just sitting there with a bible in front of him.

You, on the other hand, assume there must be a lot more going on that ISN'T in the article. There's no reason in that article for you to assume that, it is an unreasonable assumption based on absolutely nothing and thus...conjecture.

Get a fucking dictionary.

I do not believe that the PROF----"wigged" out without some pre-existing
problem

 

[koshergrl]

A church is private property.

And a bible isn't playboy.

Again. Why should students have to hide the covers of the books they are reading?

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

nope----you have engaged in conjecture

again....an observation of fact is not conjecture. There is ample evidence of your testiness, thus it is not conjecture.

 

[koshergrl]

A church is private property.

And a bible isn't playboy.

Again. Why should students have to hide the covers of the books they are reading?

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

Poor, poor snowflake

Liberals are picking on him. Maybe the school can find him a safe space

A safe place is needed to read now? In a university? Liewinger proves once again the intent of the left.. To end free speech and every other freedom, except the freedom of mentally ill homos to nut out in public.

 

[Spare_change]

It’s apparently OK to read history books at Northern Arizona University, but not the Good Book.

Mark Holden, a 22-year-old history major, tells me he was ordered to leave a lecture hall after his professor objected to him reading the Bible before the start of the class.

“All the students agreed with her that assimilation is oppressive and evil.”

Holden alleges that professor Heather Martel ordered him to put away the Good Book around six minutes before a scheduled history class. It’s unclear why she objected to the reading of God’s word.

According to her biography, Professor Martel is a noted scholar who is working on an essay titled, “The Gender Amazon: Indigenous Female Masculinity in Early Modern European Representations of Contact.” She also teaches classes on Global Queer History and Feminist Theory.

When Holden declined to stop reading his Bible, the professor summoned Derek Heng, the chairman of the department. Heng then proceeded to explain the situation.

Holden recorded the conversation and turned it over to congressional candidate Kevin Cavanaugh. In turn, Cavanaugh provided me with a copy of the audio.

"So Professor Martel says that she doesn't want you sitting in front of her because you put, you know, a Bible out, right?" Heng said.

"So she doesn't want me in the front because I have my Bible out," Holden replied.

"No, I think she — I mean, well, why do you have your Bible out anyway," Heng asked.

After a bit more back and forth regarding the dynamics in the classroom, the chairman of the department got to the heart of the issue. "So, will you, will you, will you, put your Bible away?" Heng asked.

The incident occurred back in February, but just recently became public after Campus Reform reported on the controversy.

Holden had previously drawn the ire of his professor during a classroom discussion on assimilation.

"All the students agreed with her that assimilation is oppressive and evil," Holden said. "I suggested there are both positive and negative aspects to assimilation."

As an example, he referenced a report about two Muslim men in California who reportedly said the Koran justified doing terrible things to women.

"She told me I was a racist and she would not tolerate that kind of racism in the class," Holden said. "I told her Islam was not a race and I was only talking about what the two Muslim men as individuals said — I was not making broad claims about Islam or my interpretation of the Koran."

After a bit of back and forth, Holden said the professor told the class, "Welcome to Trump's new America — where straight white males can say prejudicial things without being reprimanded for it."

I'm sorry...but the whole thing reads like fake news

If they have a tape, why can't we hear it?

Seriously?

A student is sitting in a classroom reading his Bible - the teacher interrupts him, etc.

... and you REALLY expect a tape?

Grow the hell up. Life still goes on without a phone recording it.

 

[Spare_change]

This story stinks of....lets hear the rest of the story before we go batshit crazy

I seriously doubt a professor would object to a student reading the bible before class
The only side we have heard is the student claiming she did

Lets hear what the professor and other students have to say

You "seriously doubt" .... well, hell, that settles it. It's all a lie.

 

[Spare_change]

I'm sorry...but the whole thing reads like fake news

If they have a tape, why can't we hear it?

The tape was linked. Here it is again:

AUDIO: student forced to stop reading Bible before class

I listened to the tape and thought it would be a smoking gun of the teacher telling the student she didn't want him reading the bible. What it is ...is a tape of the student relaying his side of the story of being banned for reading a bible


My gut feeling on what really happened. The student was a disruptive student in class who had been repeatedly warned about civility. The teacher had lost control of the class and was trying to enforce measures of civility. The student had been told to occupy a desk at the rear of the classroom. So....the kid shows up to class and sits front and center and pulls out his bible. When the professor told him to take his agreed upon seat, he claimed it was because he was reading a bible not because of his previous disruptive behavior

"Your gut feeling ... " Well, hell, that settles it, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[rightwinger]

I described the circumstances that might annoy the prof-----why should a
person have to hide his reading material in a church? what does "private
property" have to do with the issue-------if THE PUBLIC are invited to "partake"?
A professor CAN throw a student who he feels is disruptive to the class ---OUT

Who gives a shit about the annoyance of a prof?
The only person disrupting the class was the professor. Toss the professor. She's worthless anyway.

And the difference between public and private in this case...yes, a church is a place where the public is *invited*, but there are certain behaviors that aren't typically encouraged. Reading porn openly would be one.

A school is not a church. A school is a public venue, where the students PAY to be there. They are not *guests*. They are paying customers.

And no student should ever have to hide the titles of the books he is reading from his PROFESSORS based on the fact that the professor just can't stand the sight of the books. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of, and you're an idiot for even beginning to entertain that line of thought.

Throw the mentally ill educators in institutions, or jails, and yank federal funding from all the schools. This shit has to stop.

if anything is fucking stupid in the discussion ---it is YOU. We do not have
sufficient information to CONCLUDE as to who, in the situation, was being
disruptive, or rude or ANYTHING. I have presented a POSSIBLE scenario
for which the prof would be JUSTIFIED and jettisoning the student and his
bible. You are too FUCKING STUPID to consider that possible scenario.
It seems you do not like the prof's "politics" or "beliefs"----I have tolerated
lots of profs with whom I had ideological differences------I did not choose to
spit in their faces--------one can always drop the class

I have sufficient information.
A mentally ill homosexual is attacking students who dare to carry a bible. The mentally ill homosexual needs to be removed from the school, and from society.

Poor, poor snowflake

Liberals are picking on him. Maybe the school can find him a safe space

A safe place is needed to read now? In a university? Liewinger proves once again the intent of the left.. To end free speech and every other freedom, except the freedom of mentally ill homos to nut out in public.

Poor Snowflakes......
I can't read my bible <sob>

Conservative Pajama Boy

For God sakes Conservatives....man up!
He wouldn't have these problems if he brought his gun to class instead of a bible

Damn Sissy Boy!

 

[rightwinger]

It’s apparently OK to read history books at Northern Arizona University, but not the Good Book.

Mark Holden, a 22-year-old history major, tells me he was ordered to leave a lecture hall after his professor objected to him reading the Bible before the start of the class.

“All the students agreed with her that assimilation is oppressive and evil.”

Holden alleges that professor Heather Martel ordered him to put away the Good Book around six minutes before a scheduled history class. It’s unclear why she objected to the reading of God’s word.

According to her biography, Professor Martel is a noted scholar who is working on an essay titled, “The Gender Amazon: Indigenous Female Masculinity in Early Modern European Representations of Contact.” She also teaches classes on Global Queer History and Feminist Theory.

When Holden declined to stop reading his Bible, the professor summoned Derek Heng, the chairman of the department. Heng then proceeded to explain the situation.

Holden recorded the conversation and turned it over to congressional candidate Kevin Cavanaugh. In turn, Cavanaugh provided me with a copy of the audio.

"So Professor Martel says that she doesn't want you sitting in front of her because you put, you know, a Bible out, right?" Heng said.

"So she doesn't want me in the front because I have my Bible out," Holden replied.

"No, I think she — I mean, well, why do you have your Bible out anyway," Heng asked.

After a bit more back and forth regarding the dynamics in the classroom, the chairman of the department got to the heart of the issue. "So, will you, will you, will you, put your Bible away?" Heng asked.

The incident occurred back in February, but just recently became public after Campus Reform reported on the controversy.

Holden had previously drawn the ire of his professor during a classroom discussion on assimilation.

"All the students agreed with her that assimilation is oppressive and evil," Holden said. "I suggested there are both positive and negative aspects to assimilation."

As an example, he referenced a report about two Muslim men in California who reportedly said the Koran justified doing terrible things to women.

"She told me I was a racist and she would not tolerate that kind of racism in the class," Holden said. "I told her Islam was not a race and I was only talking about what the two Muslim men as individuals said — I was not making broad claims about Islam or my interpretation of the Koran."

After a bit of back and forth, Holden said the professor told the class, "Welcome to Trump's new America — where straight white males can say prejudicial things without being reprimanded for it."

I'm sorry...but the whole thing reads like fake news

If they have a tape, why can't we hear it?

Seriously?

A student is sitting in a classroom reading his Bible - the teacher interrupts him, etc.

... and you REALLY expect a tape?

Grow the hell up. Life still goes on without a phone recording it.

He said he had a tape....all the tape has is him telling his story
That is what is peculiar about this story. The only evidence is from the student telling the media he was not allowed to read his bible before class

 

[rightwinger]

I'm sorry...but the whole thing reads like fake news

If they have a tape, why can't we hear it?

The tape was linked. Here it is again:

AUDIO: student forced to stop reading Bible before class

I listened to the tape and thought it would be a smoking gun of the teacher telling the student she didn't want him reading the bible. What it is ...is a tape of the student relaying his side of the story of being banned for reading a bible


My gut feeling on what really happened. The student was a disruptive student in class who had been repeatedly warned about civility. The teacher had lost control of the class and was trying to enforce measures of civility. The student had been told to occupy a desk at the rear of the classroom. So....the kid shows up to class and sits front and center and pulls out his bible. When the professor told him to take his agreed upon seat, he claimed it was because he was reading a bible not because of his previous disruptive behavior

"Your gut feeling ... " Well, hell, that settles it, as far as I'm concerned.

My gut feeling is nobody in the class will collaborate the teacher telling him he can't read the bible

The real story seems to be the teacher telling him he needs to stop being disruptive in class

 

[Divine Wind]

So far, all we have is the students claim he was told not to read the Bible before class

We have no collaboration from either the professor or other students in the class confirming it. Given that the two had already had a previous altercation about his conduct in the class. it is possible the professor warned him before class and he is now claiming it was about bible reading

Even so, there's a difference between what happens in class and before class.

 

[Divine Wind]

....It may have gone down as the student claims, but I get the feeling the student may be misrepresenting what actually happened before class. I'd like to hear what the professors side is. There were other students there, lets see if they support the bible claim

Could be. Could also be the teacher doesn't like Christian white males and is petty enough to take it out on him before class. See how that works?

It's one thing to follow the guideline "I think we should wait until all the facts are in before pronouncing judgement" and it's another to say it then continually judge the person whom you are politically opposed.

 

[hadit]

They also have no right to tell him he can't keep it on his desk whether class is in session or not, period.

Why does he need his bible in a history class ?

Doesn't matter. He wants it there. It's no different from a student reading Harry Potter before class, the teacher had no business getting in his face about it.

 

[Divine Wind]

Martel - History - Northern Arizona University
IDK if I would call this fake.. If it is, this woman heather will make a shitload of cash from suing this guy...

Why would she make money suing a student?

 

[hadit]

And the teacher asked him to put it away. He isn't a kid that should need to be told that.

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he closed the book and left it on his desk so the fuck what?
if he left a text from another class closed on his desk during class no one would have cared

According to who ?
It sounds like he was a trouble maker looking to be oppressed. Old enough to know better.

That's dumb.