Roudy
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So you're blind and can't read. Thanks for the confirmation.Just like the so-called European Zionists. Ain't that a hoot. LOL
So if Jews and Palestinians are actually brothers, what shall we do about it?
As usual you're fulla lies and shit. The Ottomans and Arabs started calling it Palestine or "Falastine" in the 19th century as a result of EUROPEAN influences. Your Palestine is a hoax!Strange that there would be a newspaper in Ottoman Palestine called Filastin in 1911 if Filastin was not used by the Turks or the Arabs.
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Afternoon Map: Search results for palestine
Our next map, like the rest in Jughrafiya-i Osmani (see 90, 101, 104, and 116), make no mention of Palestine anywhere. This was not uncommon for the period, as Palestine did not constitute an administrative district in the Ottoman Empire. Instead, the entire region is labeled ‘Suriye’ in all of these maps.
Now we turn to another map in Jughrafiya-i Osmani (after p. 98) which does in fact mention Palestine, now spelled in standard Ottoman (as well as Arabic) way rather than spelled as a transliteration of the Latin word Palestina. This map claims to be a map of the Ottoman administrative geography (taksimat-i idariya), which is interesting because, as we just stated above, Filistin was NOT an administrative unit in the Ottoman Empire. The region in which Filistin appears in this map (in between the two horizontal lines) was in fact the Mutasarıflık(Mutasarifiyya, in Arabic) of Jerusalem, of Kudüs-i Şerif. Indeed, it was not uncommon in both Ottoman and Arabic geographical thinking to regarding ‘Palestine’ as synonymous with this administrative district.[4] This was a curious blend of the way the Ottoman administered the region – and the way the Europeans labeled them.
Note that Filastin does not appear anywhere on the map. Again, insofar as this is a translation of a book by one of most well-regarded botanists and geographers of Palestine in the nineteenth century, we once again see just how much the Arabs, in this case, came under the influence of their European counterparts. Indeed, this is one of the first books ever published in the Arab language which included the word ‘Filastin’ in the title of the work, and, low and behold, it is a translation from the English!
The editors of the OHP have urged me to include a cautionary note to nationalist ideologues on all sides of the spectrum: the 'idea' of palestine in Arab and Ottoman thinking indeed bears heavy European influences, but this a point of scholarly interest, and has no political implications of any kind.
So besides the Romans and the Greeks, the Turks also called the place Palestine. Thanks for the confirmation.