Belief in a God, the existence of a higher power, and the concept of an afterlife. Science or Religion?

[BackAgain]

You still act like the manchild Dante, long ago knew you to be.

Oppositional defiance and other emotional tics. Sigh.

You’re still the pussy you’ve always been and — yet somehow even more arrogant and ignorant.

 

[BackAgain]

Ok, . Such a zero.

Your opinion really doesn’t matter, Dainty.

The advances in science -- still being attacked because of a dogma that insists things be what some demand it all be.

Your claim that this is an “advance” in science simply underscores your lack of knowledge and ability to employ logic.

By the way, I’m not demanding any such thing. I’m simply exposing the false premise which simpletons like you gobble up.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

You’re still the pussy you’ve always been and — yet somehow even more arrogant and ignorant.

Okay

 

[BackAgain]

Okay

Zzz.

Good job so far following me around like a live sick puppy. Dainty, you’re a plodding twit.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Your opinion really doesn’t matter, Dainty.

Your claim that this is an “advance” in science simply underscores your lack of knowledge and ability to employ logic.

By the way, I’m not demanding any such thing. I’m simply exposing the false premise which simpletons like you gobble up.

Your reading and comprehension skills have obviously deteriorated since your much bragged about I.Q,. results from Junior High school.

Experiments that further prove a theory are advancements in science.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Zzz.

Good job so far following me around like a live sick puppy. Dainty, you’re a plodding twit.

You're a lonely old fool. All those decades stuck in a place you hated, with people you had nothing but contempt for -- a living hell. Is there ever a recovery from that? I mean the baggage you carry. Dante has more pity for you now, than he ever had before.

 

[BackAgain]

Your reading and comprehension skills have obviously deteriorated since your much bragged about I.Q,. results from Junior High school.

Experiments that further prove a theory are advancements in science.

Good puppy. You don’t have to make any sense. Which is fortuitous since you aren’t capable of it.

But you obey like a good puppy. Wag you tail, mah bitch.

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you still make bumper stickers?

That would be a good one, except some atheist would probably take offence and key your car.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I struggled with where, what forum (Science or Religion and Ethics), to put this: "Belief in a God, the existence of a higher power, and the concept of an afterlife. Science or Religion?"

Here we are...

Somebody said "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist."(1)

I believe some people unknowingly, and some people purposefully conflate spontaneous creation with spontaneous generation, which takes any discussion of scientific theories into debating religion as somehow being just another scientific theory. There exits no science behind claims religions make for why we and the universe exists.


We now have scientists claiming they've created matter from nothing in a groundbreaking experiment. If they have, their claims can be proven by successfully repeating any experiment.

Scientists create matter from nothing in groundbreaking experiment

Scientists have managed to create matter out of nothing, a quantum physics feat previously thought impossible.

bgr.com

70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from nothing

In our common experience, you can't get something for nothing. In the quantum realm, something really can emerge from nothing.

bigthink.com

1: Stephen Hawking

 

[BackAgain]

You're a lonely old fool. All those decades stuck in a place you hated, with people you had nothing but contempt for -- a living hell. Is there ever a recovery from that? I mean the baggage you carry. Dante has more pity for you now, than he ever had before.

Poor Dainty is now delving into the depths of complete incoherence. Talking about yourself in the third person is a classic sign, Dainty.

Sit! Roll over!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Poor Dainty is now delving into the depths of complete incoherence. Talking about yourself in the third person is a classic sign, Dainty.

Sit! Roll over!

Bob Dole.

next

 

[BackAgain]

Bob Dole.

next

Maybe I should have said plumbing the depths.

Sit! Stay! Good girl, Dainty.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Maybe I should have said plumbing the depths.

Sit! Stay! Good girl, Dainty.

note: to anyone who may stumble upon the recent diversion of the thread -- no worries.


No Trolls will be hurt in the making of this priceless treasure.

Dante has long been into catch and release.

 

[BackAgain]

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note: to anyone who may stumble upon the recent diversion of the thread -- no worries.


No Trolls will be hurt in the making of this priceless treasure.

Dante has long been into catch and release.

To both of Dainty’s regular readers, I pity you.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

To both of Dainty’s regular readers, I pity you.

ty

 

[Dadoalex]

Any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from religion?

The quote ends with "magic" not religion.

 

[Dadoalex]

I struggled with where, what forum (Science or Religion and Ethics), to put this: "Belief in a God, the existence of a higher power, and the concept of an afterlife. Science or Religion?"

Here we are...

Somebody said "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist."(1)

I believe some people unknowingly, and some people purposefully conflate spontaneous creation with spontaneous generation, which takes any discussion of scientific theories into debating religion as somehow being just another scientific theory. There exits no science behind claims religions make for why we and the universe exists.


We now have scientists claiming they've created matter from nothing in a groundbreaking experiment. If they have, their claims can be proven by successfully repeating any experiment.

Scientists create matter from nothing in groundbreaking experiment

Scientists have managed to create matter out of nothing, a quantum physics feat previously thought impossible.

bgr.com

70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from nothing

In our common experience, you can't get something for nothing. In the quantum realm, something really can emerge from nothing.

bigthink.com

1: Stephen Hawking

One thing I understand is that whenever science has claimed to have found the "smallest" object, a smaller one pops up.
Logically, the corollary is true. That the "largest" object, e.g., the universe is just a part of an even larger system.

Matter and energy cannot be "created" from nothing. However, quantum mechanics says we can make an object appear in two places simultaneously. Given that any supposedly "empty" space is being traversed constantly by particles that cannot be detected easily I doubt this exercise is the "creation" of matter from nothing as opposed to the transferal of matter from one location to another.

For me this is the starting point in travelling the universe using "quantum doorways" rather than point to point travel.

Really, though, nothing to do with religion.


BUT...

Consider cloning of dead cells.
This can and is being done.
If we can do this what does that say about "creating life" and Jesus' supposed resurrection?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

To both of Dainty’s regular readers, I pity you.

One thing I understand is that whenever science has claimed to have found the "smallest" object, a smaller one pops up.
Logically, the corollary is true. That the "largest" object, e.g., the universe is just a part of an even larger system.

Matter and energy cannot be "created" from nothing. However, quantum mechanics says we can make an object appear in two places simultaneously. Given that any supposedly "empty" space is being traversed constantly by particles that cannot be detected easily I doubt this exercise is the "creation" of matter from nothing as opposed to the transferal of matter from one location to another.

For me this is the starting point in travelling the universe using "quantum doorways" rather than point to point travel.

Really, though, nothing to do with religion.


BUT...

Consider cloning of dead cells.
This can and is being done.
If we can do this what does that say about "creating life" and Jesus' supposed resurrection?

okay

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Science can create lightning in a lab, so why can't they take a blob of sea foam, zap it with lightning and create life?

Why would they want or need to do that? What a bizarre question.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from religion?

An easy thing to say.

But a scientist plucked from the year 1880 would not look at a jet airplane or an iphone and think it was supernatural in origin. They would just think they have a lot to learn about it.