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Bernie Calls For a Moral Economy; Why Not?

What could be more "immoral" than looting money from the people who earned it so you can dispense to ticks on the ass of society?

When the government takes money that a millionaire would like snort up his nose or spend on whores and gambling, it is not looting. IT is liberating the immoral money from destroying that rich mans soul.

Maybe we should impose a 90% tax on all income in the top 0.00001% of incomes?
 
What could be more "immoral" than looting money from the people who earned it so you can dispense to ticks on the ass of society?

When the government takes money that a millionaire would like snort up his nose or spend on whores and gambling, it is not looting. IT is liberating the immoral money from destroying that rich mans soul.

Maybe we should impose a 90% tax on all income in the top 0.00001% of incomes?

It's looting. It doesn't matter what the millionaire does with his money.

Maybe we should put all leftwing idiots in reeducation camps so they can learn the meaning of theft.
 
It's looting. It doesn't matter what the millionaire does with his money.

Maybe we should put all leftwing idiots in reeducation camps so they can learn the meaning of theft.
So then by your logic all taxes are theft.

A totally useless conclusion, thank you. We will not be banning governments any time soon, nor should we.
 
It's looting. It doesn't matter what the millionaire does with his money.

Maybe we should put all leftwing idiots in reeducation camps so they can learn the meaning of theft.
So then by your logic all taxes are theft.

A totally useless conclusion, thank you. We will not be banning governments any time soon, nor should we.

Yes, all taxes are theft. Taxation is indistinguishable from theft.

Banning government may be closer than you imagine.
 
Don't post me a link. Post the distinction between "Nordic socialism" and capitalism or shut the fuck up.
Well in Nordic Socialism, nobody has to worry that they might get laid off and lose their house or have to stop paying their kids way through college, and they dont h ave to engage in dig eat dog competition like animals do, like snakes, crawling around on their bellies eating other snakes if they get too slow.

Husbands can actually have a family life and not work 80 hour weeks so that the boss doesnt hire a foreign serf to take his job, and he can run off that college kid thats wanting to fuck his wife. He can spend time with his children and encourage them to play sports so they dont have to kiss some bullies ass to get by in school.

Nordic socialism treats people like peole instead of like they were commodities or gears in a fucking machine.

That help, dude, since you are too fucking lazy to read a god damned thing for yourself?

:D
 
Don't post me a link. Post the distinction between "Nordic socialism" and capitalism or shut the fuck up.
Well in Nordic Socialism, nobody has to worry that they might get laid off and lose their house or have to stop paying their kids way through college, and they dont h ave to engage in dig eat dog competition like animals do, like snakes, crawling around on their bellies eating other snakes if they get too slow.

Husbands can actually have a family life and not work 80 hour weeks so that the boss doesnt hire a foreign serf to take his job, and he can run off that college kid thats wanting to fuck his wife. He can spend time with his children and encourage them to play sports so they dont have to kiss some bullies ass to get by in school.

Nordic socialism treats people like peole instead of like they were commodities or gears in a fucking machine.

That help, dude, since you are too fucking lazy to read a god damned thing for yourself?

:D
That's total bullshit. People in Scandinavia have less material wealth than Americans.
 
Hilarious how the change "socialism" to "economic morality."

I wonder if they have a good laugh when they come up with these things.
 
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Don't post me a link. Post the distinction between "Nordic socialism" and capitalism or shut the fuck up.
Well in Nordic Socialism, nobody has to worry that they might get laid off and lose their house or have to stop paying their kids way through college, and they dont h ave to engage in dig eat dog competition like animals do, like snakes, crawling around on their bellies eating other snakes if they get too slow.

Husbands can actually have a family life and not work 80 hour weeks so that the boss doesnt hire a foreign serf to take his job, and he can run off that college kid thats wanting to fuck his wife. He can spend time with his children and encourage them to play sports so they dont have to kiss some bullies ass to get by in school.

Nordic socialism treats people like peole instead of like they were commodities or gears in a fucking machine.

That help, dude, since you are too fucking lazy to read a god damned thing for yourself?

:D
The myth of Scandinavian socialism as pushed by losers on the left.

 
A moral economy?

You mean, one where people get only what they pay for (or work for)?

Count me in.

(Except that's NEVER what Bernie Sanders means.)

When socialist liberals (which is most of them) refer to a "moral economy", they usually mean an economy where people get what the liberals think they should get. According to some fuzzy notions in their heads that they can't even voice much less agree on. But which have little to do with how much the person's work is actually worth.

A moral economy does not allow a small number of the richest and most powerful to use their advantage to exploit and abuse the rest of the society.
 
We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?

Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?

Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?

At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...


Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”

The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.

But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.

The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.

Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.

“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”
The problem is that there are now many on the Right who have been convinced that a tax is theft, that a regulation robs them of "freedom", and that any government involvement in our lives deprives them of "liberty".

Who convinced them of that? I think we all know.

So now they're stuck in this purist/absolutist ideological squirrel cage and they can't seem to break out of it. And what they don't seem to realize is that they're most likely helping their political opposition with their absolutism. While they're busy screaming "FREEDOM" and "LIBERTY", the Democrats are taking advantage of the opportunity and the country is moving Left.
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We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?

Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?

Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?

At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...


Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”

The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.

But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.

The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.

Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.

“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”
The problem is that there are now many on the Right who have been convinced that a tax is theft, that a regulation robs them of "freedom", and that any government involvement in our lives deprives them of "liberty".

Who convinced them of that? I think we all know.

So now they're stuck in this purist/absolutist ideological squirrel cage and they can't seem to break out of it.
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Well, now that you have unzipped your fly and let us all see your tiny little leanings for socialism.

It is not necessarily taxes. It is as much or more about what our tax dollars are spent on. We all know the socialists use the poor for political gain. Stalin (the left wing hero) called them useful idiots. Why would he call them that? I will be waiting for your explanation.

All rising socialist nations use thuggery to advance their cause. The Bolsheviks, the brown shirts, Khmer Rouge, the Red Guard, and now we see the "blacklivesmatter thugs. After the poor have worn out their usefulness and after the "revolution" is successful, it is time to cull the herd. Mass killings is what happens next.

The socialists in this country are still in the stage where they are convincing the useful idiots that they are on their side. The revolution is not complete. They get the media to push their propaganda. They get the educators to push the myth of utopia by showing ALL of the advantages of socialist countries and ONLY show the EVILS of a free market. Always showing the greed and fat cats.

Oh, how they hate stories like Herman Cain. Cause they need to divide and conquer and races is one of their best divisions. Oh, how they hate Dr Ben Carson. Ohhhhh, how they hate that.
 
We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?

Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?

Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?

At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...


Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”

The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.

But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.

The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.

Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.

“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”
The problem is that there are now many on the Right who have been convinced that a tax is theft, that a regulation robs them of "freedom", and that any government involvement in our lives deprives them of "liberty".

Who convinced them of that? I think we all know.

So now they're stuck in this purist/absolutist ideological squirrel cage and they can't seem to break out of it.
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Well, now that you have unzipped your fly and let us all see your tiny little leanings for socialism.

It is not necessarily taxes. It is as much or more about what our tax dollars are spent on. We all know the socialists use the poor for political gain. Stalin (the left wing hero) called them useful idiots. Why would he call them that? I will be waiting for your explanation.

All rising socialist nations use thuggery to advance their cause. The Bolsheviks, the brown shirts, Khmer Rouge, the Red Guard, and now we see the "blacklivesmatter thugs. After the poor have worn out their usefulness and after the "revolution" is successful, it is time to cull the herd. Mass killings is what happens next.

The socialists in this country are still in the stage where they are convincing the useful idiots that they are on their side. The revolution is not complete. They get the media to push their propaganda. They get the educators to push the myth of utopia by showing ALL of the advantages of socialist countries and ONLY show the EVILS of a free market. Always showing the greed and fat cats.

Oh, how they hate stories like Herman Cain. Cause they need to divide and conquer and races is one of their best divisions. Oh, how they hate Dr Ben Carson. Ohhhhh, how they hate that.
To use Stalin's expression, I think there are plenty of useful idiots on both ends of our political spectrum. The two ends have successfully shut down all impulses of intellectual curiosity and gone full steam ahead with their ideologies.

If it's how tax dollars are spent, say so. That's not what we're hearing from the Right. What we are hearing is that taxes are theft and that we need to shut everything possible down or we're not enjoying "freedom" or "liberty". Those are two different messages.

We are also hearing screams of "SOCIALISM" and "MARXISM" and "COMMUNISM" with virtually no admission that such socioeconomic systems exist on a continuum. And this may be where you're assisting your opponents the most - the average person will look at Medicare and Social Security and a progressive tax system, hear you calling those systems "socialist", and think to themselves "well, I like those things, so socialism must be okay."

If you feel this approach is working - and I don't know where it is - then keep doing it.
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"Bernie Calls For a Moral Economy; Why Not?"

Because it’s naïve and unrealistic.

Economies are neither ‘moral’ nor ‘immoral.’

And this illustrates why Sanders won’t be the democratic nominee: he doesn’t represent the views of a majority of democrats, who are for the most part pragmatists, and correctly understand the notion of a ‘moral economy’ is nonsense.
 
We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?

Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?

Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?

At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...


Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”

The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.

But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.

The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.

Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.

“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”

Welcome to the religious left, where legislating morality is now hip.
 
"Bernie Calls For a Moral Economy; Why Not?"

Because it’s naïve and unrealistic.

Economies are neither ‘moral’ nor ‘immoral.’

And this illustrates why Sanders won’t be the democratic nominee: he doesn’t represent the views of a majority of democrats, who are for the most part pragmatists, and correctly understand the notion of a ‘moral economy’ is nonsense.

Obviously, we have a heretic.

What we need here is a "Bernie Inquisition".

And why not in a country where they are now arresting Climate deniers.
 

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