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I'm guessing that you've never been anywhere that has this kind of economy (probably think it would ruin your ideological purity). Most people who've visited these countries become pretty depressed when they return to the U.S.Higher taxes and a lower standard of living.What are you afraid of then?Notify me if any country ever finds it. I wish it to be true, But by the looks of the Panama story this week I have a long wait to go.
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You might be interested in reading about so-called 'Nordic Socialism' which is the kind of Socialism that Sanders wants. Norway which uses that form of socialism has a higher stanard of living than the USA does.
There is no reason we have to live and work in a 'rat eats rat' world.
So-called "Nordic socialism" is indistinguishable from capitalism.
Why not? Because there is nothing moral about taking money from someone to give to someone else.
So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.
See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.
No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.
Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.
If I take your money and use it to provide healthcare for a poor person,
what about that is NOT taking money from you to give to someone else?
Why not? Because there is nothing moral about taking money from someone to give to someone else.
So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.
See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.
No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.
Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.
If I take your money and use it to provide healthcare for a poor person,
what about that is NOT taking money from you to give to someone else?
Democrats want to create a "moral economy"?
How about AFTER Unicorns sh#t rainbows?
Why not? Because there is nothing moral about taking money from someone to give to someone else.
So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.
See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.
No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.
Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.
If I take your money and use it to provide healthcare for a poor person,
what about that is NOT taking money from you to give to someone else?
Nothing. That's why it's theft.
Equality of opportunity = Moral
Equality of Outcome = Stupid and immoral.
We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?
Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?
Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?
At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...
Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”
The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.
But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.
“The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.”
Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.
“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”
Why not? Because there is nothing moral about taking money from someone to give to someone else.
So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.
See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.
No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.
Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.
If I take your money and use it to provide healthcare for a poor person,
what about that is NOT taking money from you to give to someone else?
There is nothing moral about that.
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Socialism 101
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
A moral economy?
Like one where people make money by honestly dealing with one another? And one profits by providing goods and services another person needs effectively and in a way that makes others voluntarily come to them to get their goods and solve their problems? Think of it. A system if economics where people serve one another to provide for themselves.
And one that self corrects if people act immorally.
Wait, we have one! It's called the free market. So why do we want to install a government that's going to tell us what we can or can't do or how we meet our needs for providing for ourselves or what we have to buy regardless of our choice?
We can change tax policies to encourage a more moral and considerate form of economics, so why not do it?
Why do we prefer to live in an economic jungle instead of a 'well regulated' economic garden?
Which would you rather leave to your kids and grand kids?
At the Vatican, Sanders Calls for a ‘Moral Economy’
During a speech this morning at the Vatican, Senator Bernie Sanders advocated for an end to income inequality in America, condemned Wall Street for contributing to that inequality, and called for “a truly moral economy.”...
Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to a conference at the Vatican today, which was hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. According to The New York Times, Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the academy’s chancellor, said Sanders was invited because he is “the candidate who cites the pope the most in his campaign.”
The conference marks the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Centesimus Annus encyclical, which called for social and economic justice at the end of the Cold War. In that encyclical, the Pope spoke out against the “illicit exploitation, speculation, or the breaking of solidarity among working people” in pursuit of profit. That made the conference fertile ground for Sanders to discuss his core campaign issues, including income inequality and corporate greed.
But while Sanders is often challenged to explain the mechanics of his plans to decrease income inequality in the United States, the speech at the Vatican was a rare chance to lay out a purely moral argument for doing so.
“The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time,” he said. “It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.”
Though Pope Francis wasn’t in attendance at the conference, Sanders invoked the Pope’s speeches and writings, showcasing the similarities between himself and Pope Francis.
“As Pope Francis has stated: ‘Man is not in charge today, money is in charge, money rules,'” Sanders said. “And the Pope has also stated: ‘We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.'”
What could be more "immoral" than looting money from the people who earned it so you can dispense to ticks on the ass of society?
What could be more "immoral" than looting money from the people who earned it so you can dispense to ticks on the ass of society?
When the government takes money that a millionaire would like snort up his nose or spend on whores and gambling, it is not looting. IT is liberating the immoral money from destroying that rich mans soul.
Maybe we should impose a 90% tax on all income in the top 0.00001% of incomes?
A moral economy?
Like one where people make money by honestly dealing with one another? And one profits by providing goods and services another person needs effectively and in a way that makes others voluntarily come to them to get their goods and solve their problems? Think of it. A system if economics where people serve one another to provide for themselves.
And one that self corrects if people act immorally.
Wait, we have one! It's called the free market. So why do we want to install a government that's going to tell us what we can or can't do or how we meet our needs for providing for ourselves or what we have to buy regardless of our choice?
The free market has no morality. Slaves were bought and sold like property in a free market.
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Socialism 101
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
That's a big fat strawman because no one of consequence is trying to impoverish the wealthy for the sake of the poor.
Why not? Because there is nothing moral about taking money from someone to give to someone else.
So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.
See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.
No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.
Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.
If I take your money and use it to provide healthcare for a poor person,
what about that is NOT taking money from you to give to someone else?
There is nothing moral about that.
So an entire nation, democratically governed, has no moral authority to accompany its legal authority to levy taxes to help the poor.
So it's immoral to have a democratic government that decides to collect taxes to help pay for the health and education of the poor.
See, that's how far off the planet the modern American conservative is.
No idiot, I said it is'nt moral to take money from some one and give it to someone else. That is Crazy Berie's whole schtick. His idea of a moral economy is income equality. That is what is immoral.
Equality of opportunity is moral, equality of outcome is not.
If I take your money and use it to provide healthcare for a poor person,
what about that is NOT taking money from you to give to someone else?
There is nothing moral about that.
So an entire nation, democratically governed, has no moral authority to accompany its legal authority to levy taxes to help the poor.
The way we are doing it is not helping the poor, it is enabling the poor and you know it.
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I pay more than 40% of my income in order to have decent medical care, college fund for the kids and retirement when the time comes. That's all part of the package over there. Plus they eat real food, start out with 6 weeks of vacation and don't work themselves to an early grave.I'm guessing that you've never been anywhere that has this kind of economy (probably think it would ruin your ideological purity). Most people who've visited these countries become pretty depressed when they return to the U.S.Higher taxes and a lower standard of living.What are you afraid of then?You might be interested in reading about so-called 'Nordic Socialism' which is the kind of Socialism that Sanders wants. Norway which uses that form of socialism has a higher stanard of living than the USA does.
There is no reason we have to live and work in a 'rat eats rat' world.
So-called "Nordic socialism" is indistinguishable from capitalism.
If you are used to paying 40% in taxes and such they got used to it.
Imagine if we had a tax holiday for three months and people really see how much federal and state taxes they pay .. .
It would be a revolt when they took it away.
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So YOU'VE never been anywhere. Why am I not surprised? Yeah, our homes are enormous. So fucking what? Mine is almost 5000 sq ft but it's more of an investment than anything we actually need. And yeah, there are some other perks like cheap golf if that's your thing. Tennis for $50? Color me skeptical since they have some great parks. If I didn't have family and friends here plus a huge investment in time for career, I'd move to Europe in a heartbeat.I'm guessing that you've never been anywhere that has this kind of economy (probably think it would ruin your ideological purity). Most people who've visited these countries become pretty depressed when they return to the U.S.Higher taxes and a lower standard of living.What are you afraid of then?You might be interested in reading about so-called 'Nordic Socialism' which is the kind of Socialism that Sanders wants. Norway which uses that form of socialism has a higher stanard of living than the USA does.
There is no reason we have to live and work in a 'rat eats rat' world.
So-called "Nordic socialism" is indistinguishable from capitalism.
I know people who live in Germany and when they came here they thought they had died and gone to heaven. They thought our homes were enormous. They were amazed that everyone owned a car. In Germany they had to pay $50 bucks just to get on a tennis court. Forget about playing golf unless you're rich.
In short, you're lying.
