Bernie Sanders: We Will Raise Taxes On Anyone Making Over $29,000 To Fund Government Health Care

[pknopp]

I don't care, I will be voting for whatever Democrat they put up they all want the same thing. Help for the middle class and working class.... Worst inequality and upward mobility and 78% going paycheck to paycheck is not trivia, brainwashed functional moron

So you like people making $14/hr getting higher taxes on their paychecks.
Yep. You Leftards hate the poor.

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

Eating clubbed baby seal is good for you.

All of the countries with the highest ratings have universal health care.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So you like people making $14/hr getting higher taxes on their paychecks.
Yep. You Leftards hate the poor.

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

Eating clubbed baby seal is good for you.

All of the countries with the highest ratings have universal health care.

Ratings like for movies. Fabricated by morons living in a bubble world.

Everyone comes to America for healthcare.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So you like people making $14/hr getting higher taxes on their paychecks.
Yep. You Leftards hate the poor.

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

Eating clubbed baby seal is good for you.

All of the countries with the highest ratings have universal health care.

Remember the child in the UK with a terminal illness who the government forced to die instead of seek alternate healthcare in America?

That’s government healthcare - imprisonments until you die.

 

[pknopp]

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

Eating clubbed baby seal is good for you.

All of the countries with the highest ratings have universal health care.

Ratings like for movies. Fabricated by morons living in a bubble world.

Everyone comes to America for healthcare.

No, everyone does not. The rich do.

 

[pknopp]

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

Eating clubbed baby seal is good for you.

All of the countries with the highest ratings have universal health care.

Remember the child in the UK with a terminal illness who the government forced to die instead of seek alternate healthcare in America?

That’s government healthcare - imprisonments until you die.

All care puts limitations on coverage. All of it does.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So you like people making $14/hr getting higher taxes on their paychecks.
Yep. You Leftards hate the poor.

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

Eating clubbed baby seal is good for you.

All of the countries with the highest ratings have universal health care.

Remember the child in the UK with a terminal illness who the government forced to die instead of seek alternate healthcare in America?

That’s government healthcare - imprisonments until you die.

All care puts limitations on coverage. All of it does.

You can wait 19 months for your pacemaker because the government cares!

 

[pknopp]

And free healthcare. It's a great deal actually but you brainwashed functional morons are so fear mongered I think we have to go with the public option like Obama wanted. He also did not want to mandate. Scary how total garbage propaganda is so powerful....

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

And Cubans get all the best healthcare in Cuba!

 

[pknopp]

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

And Cubans get all the best healthcare in Cuba!

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Which no one is clamoring for but when it's all you have to fall back on, well..........it doesn't say much for your position.

 

[Weatherman2020]

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

And Cubans get all the best healthcare in Cuba!

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Which no one is clamoring for but when it's all you have to fall back on, well..........it doesn't say much for your position.

Do I get a dollar for every Leftard post on USMB praising Cuban healthcare?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And free healthcare! Just like Canada so we can wait 19 months for a pacemaker!

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

And less drugs and less violence. Like Canadians.

All the top countries have universal health care.

So does Cuba, Venezuela and Burkina Faso.

Rationing and waiting periods are cool.

And who needs the latest equipment or the newest drugs?

 

[pknopp]

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

And Cubans get all the best healthcare in Cuba!

View attachment 292020

Which no one is clamoring for but when it's all you have to fall back on, well..........it doesn't say much for your position.

Do I get a dollar for every Leftard post on USMB praising Cuban healthcare?

You would have nothing.

 

[pknopp]

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

And less drugs and less violence. Like Canadians.

All the top countries have universal health care.

So does Cuba, Venezuela and Burkina Faso.

Rationing and waiting periods are cool.

And who needs the latest equipment or the newest drugs?

It's a lie to claim the many countries ahead of us do not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

And less drugs and less violence. Like Canadians.

All the top countries have universal health care.

So does Cuba, Venezuela and Burkina Faso.

Rationing and waiting periods are cool.

And who needs the latest equipment or the newest drugs?

It's a lie to claim the many countries ahead of us do not.

Do not what?

 

[pknopp]

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

And less drugs and less violence. Like Canadians.

All the top countries have universal health care.

So does Cuba, Venezuela and Burkina Faso.

Rationing and waiting periods are cool.

And who needs the latest equipment or the newest drugs?

It's a lie to claim the many countries ahead of us do not.

Do not what?

Explain what you mean by what.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

And less drugs and less violence. Like Canadians.

All the top countries have universal health care.

So does Cuba, Venezuela and Burkina Faso.

Rationing and waiting periods are cool.

And who needs the latest equipment or the newest drugs?

It's a lie to claim the many countries ahead of us do not.

Do not what?

Explain what you mean by what.

It's a lie to claim the many countries ahead of us do not.

Many countries ahead of us do not what?

 

[Flopper]

Medicare for All reminds me of the original Obamacare, "Health Care for America Plan" which contained a public option allowing people to transfer to a Medicare like system without age restriction. The public option was of course a major target of the insurance companies and was dropped almost immediately by congress.

I think there are some misconceptions about how the Medicare for All proposals would be implemented. Once congress gets hold of any of the current proposals, they would change radically.

• First, it would not be Medicare. It would be a healthcare plan similar to Medicare but would look more like an employer sponsored plan than Medicare.
• It would be phased in over many years opening up first to older Americans and gradually extended to all ages.
• Lastly, there would be supplemental insurance just as there is with Medicare.

Any national healthcare plan would be a series of compromises. We have to remember this is not 1965 when Medicare was passed where deals were made between democrats and republicans to pass major legislation and the influence of lobbyists was far less than today.

What would actually stand a chance at working is allow people with preexisting conditions to go on Medicare. That would remove all the high risk patients from private insurance, and that would cause a price decrease, or at the very least, a price freeze.

Next is Medicare and Medicaid needs to start paying the entire bill instead of only part of it.
In any case, nothing gets done the right way until we work on lowering the cost of medical care first. If we don't do that, we're just passing the buck around.

Putting people with serious pre-existing conditions on Medicare is a good idea but it needs to be serious prexisting conditions. Back before Obamacare when I applied for individual insurance, I had to complete a 26 page medical questions. I found I was ineligible for health insurance because I had asthma and hayfever. A goal of insurance companies was to eliminate anyone who might file a claim.

I think deductibles should be eliminated but not co-insurance and copays. People need to pay a small fee for services or they will over utilize the system.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

And Cubans get all the best healthcare in Cuba!

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Which no one is clamoring for but when it's all you have to fall back on, well..........it doesn't say much for your position.

Do I get a dollar for every Leftard post on USMB praising Cuban healthcare?

You would have nothing.

What’s the world ranking of Cuban healthcare according to the list you use?

 

[francoHFW]

The life expectancy on average in Canada is 82.8.

In the U.S. it's 78.5.

We have more minorities with more drugs and more violence.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point. If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

I figured this would be the reply while missing the larger point.

White Americans have equivalent life expectancies to Canadians.

Overall white Americans have better access to healthcare.

If things were so bad in Canada they would not have the 7th highest life expectancy rate.

Not all rationing and waiting periods results in shorter life expectancies.

All the top countries have universal health care.

And Cubans get all the best healthcare in Cuba!

View attachment 292020

Cubans live longer than Americans also. Very good doctors not such great infrastructure obviously duh.