Biden ‘Under Investigation’ By GAO For Halting Billions Of Dollars To Finish Border Wall, Report Says

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Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?

Using discretionary funds is not abusing the 'laws'.

Yes it is.

Clause 7. No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

APPROPRIATIONS
The restriction on drawing money from the Treasury “was intended as a restriction upon the disbursing authority of the Executive department,” and “means simply that no money can be paid out of the Treasury unless it has been appropriated by an act of Congress.”


The Pentagon — not Mexico — will again be paying for the construction of President Donald Trump’s wall on the US’s southern border, to the tune of $7.2 billion in 2020.

According to a Washington Post report, the White House will use last year’s national emergency declaration to pull $3.5 billion from military counter-drug enforcement, up significantly from the $2.5 billion taken from the same program in 2019. An additional $3.2 billion will be taken from Department of Defense construction projects for additional fencing projects. The number is more than five times the amount allocated to barrier construction by Congress for 2020.
www.vox.com › 2020/1/14 › 21065352

That $$$ was appropriated by congress.

No, really?

Screw WaPo and Vox - show me the bills.

Why did OldLady Thumb up the following post.

Concerned American said the same dam thing I posted!

Hypocrite.
Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?
That move was within the POTUS powers of discretion--it was viewed as defense. This money has already been party to contract--the current WH squatter can't unilaterally cancel the contract, penalties.
Don't start.

Don't start what?

Can't handle being wrong about something or being called the hypocrite that you are in this situation?
I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. I just know you seem to be accusing me of being a hypocrite because I didn't give your post a thumbs up.
 
Why did Trump pause funding for Ukraine?

Yes, why did he? That was essentially the matter over which the first impeachment was all about, with the Democrats charging that the funds were being withheld as some sort of leverage in political blackmail intended to influence Ukraine to open an investigation on Biden. I recall my attitude at the time was that the Democrats jumped the gun with their complaints because the fiscal year wasn't over and with the money eventually released their impeachment case was baseless. Now here again we have another issue of congressional approved funding being withheld (or paused, if you prefer).
 
the cash - ' taken ' by trump already earmarked for military construction of housing & schools wasn't discretionary.

he used an EO to bipass from congress at the start.

biden can cancel any EO from trump & will probably return that cash for it's original intent.


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These are not executive orders and Biden has stopped the use of these funds to build the wall...
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Outta the park, Doc7505. Yay! :texflag:

you really gotta educate yerself & stop being so ignorant just cause it gives you false comfort.

The ignorance YOU have that it is the law of the land for the Border wall to be constructed.

an EO is not law. that is why every president has the 'power' to negate & obliterate the previous prez' orders.

no president can do that to a LAW.


January 25, 2021
What Is an Executive Order?

Executive orders are not legislation; they require no approval from Congress, and Congress cannot simply overturn them. Congress may pass legislation that might make it difficult, or even impossible, to carry out the order, such as removing funding. Only a sitting U.S. President may overturn an existing executive order by issuing another executive order to that effect.

What Is an Executive Order?

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Screenshot_2021-03-25 Definition of LEGISLATION.png
 
the cash - ' taken ' by trump already earmarked for military construction of housing & schools wasn't discretionary.

he used an EO to bipass from congress at the start.

biden can cancel any EO from trump & will probably return that cash for it's original intent.


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These are not executive orders and Biden has stopped the use of these funds to build the wall...
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Outta the park, Doc7505. Yay! :texflag:

you really gotta educate yerself & stop being so ignorant just cause it gives you false comfort.
Trump was an advocate for peace in the MiddleEast, and the world breathed easier on account of so many middle eastern people willing to forgetting about wiping Israel off the map over disagreements dating back five thousand stinking years old. Biden pissed on that and pissed it away for good. No more trusting each other now that greedy for power Pelosi, Schumer, Harris,Waters, et al, have ended this civil victory Trump gave no only to the American people, but also to the greater and universal world. What a flummox led by assholes who worship power to hurt and not to heal nothin.'

The border wall closing put a total halt to the fentanyl drug poisoning of 300 Americans dying every week due to ill effects of the drug traced back to coyotes illegally carrying the poison hidden in baby bags carried by threatened mothers and other devious maneuvers. Biden's puerile reopening the border has been a human disaster with stupid lefties who hadn't a clue that the cages for children were put in place by the Obama brain trust, and never by Trump as the uninformed on the left foolishly cast the shame of those horrid cages wrongfully onto Trump, who is as usual innocent of yet more altered reality of grossly uninformed Demonrats who bought into misinformation and brainwashing for the purpose of instituting Marxism on this Nation rather than civil freedoms. It is not I who am misguided by leftist press loudmouth lines. I'm onto their little departures from the real world in their simple greed for narratives for a fine meal and under-the-table cash for ransoming and replacing the truth with salacious lies about a great American leader who saw the light of the good that can come from teaching a fledgling society to work hard, trade well, and also to do good for nations who, like they used to be, poor and taken advantage of. Trump did good, and in hate for his gargantuan successes in world peace, the deep Staters sullied him with salacious lies about actions he did not do, etc ad nauseum.

Quite frankly, ma'am, the Democrats operate in Neverland dreams when young and when old act like liver-eating carnivores against nonMarxists and breadwinners who pay taxes to build, educate, and take care of those who cannot take care of themselves, all of which are encouraged by Christian ethics that earned this nation loving respect from nations who solicited and won our helping hands our founders wanted us to be with the liberties they procured and exercised in helping our neighbors.

Mr. Biden has little common sense and is on one of the most negative hate-and-get-even political campaigns to scorch the earth to the very foundations of our founders who produced a nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the principles all of us are created to be equals with 1 vote per person, not 30 or ten million, quite frankly. And I'm done on your naivite of which there is less of in a nursery school. You are not paying attention, and nobody here can wake you up!

wow - you really are a nutter, aren'tcha?
 
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Makes me think back to what Trump got impeached over when he held back from Ukraine the money congress had allocated. Not much similarity in regards to the charge of using the funds for political blackmail, but its good somebody is keeping an eye on the situation. To do things legally the current congress would at least have to rescind the wall money allocated by the previous congress.

Good grief!

Why did Trump pause funding for Ukraine?

Pause is not the same as withheld - Ukraine got the money before the end of the fiscal year.

they only got the cash, cause that pause was illegal.

GAO: Trump’s hold on Ukraine aid violated budget law
1974 budget law limits presidential authority to prohibit congressionally approved spending
GAO: Trump’s hold on Ukraine aid violated budget law - Roll Call

understand the difference here:

cash approved & allocated by CONGRESS, cannot be paused, halted or diverted to programs etc... by the prez.

whatever $$$ was allocated by CONGRESS to go for that wall ... has to go for that wall.

an EO is additional funding taken from programs etc NOT earmarked for that wall.

same goes for the money allocated by CONGRESS for ukraine.
 
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Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?
That move was within the POTUS powers of discretion--it was viewed as defense. This money has already been party to contract--the current WH squatter can't unilaterally cancel the contract, penalties.
Thank you. What President Biden did was put a 'hold' on any more construction while the administration is looking into whether cancelling the contracts is financially feasible, by talking to the companies about cancellation fees. What the GAO is investigating is if the Pres can refuse to spend the money Congress approved.

But if what T**** did was legal is being heard by the Supreme Court next month. It isn't settled yet.
Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?

No.

from what i read & understand - the cash that congress approved & allocated cannot be 'refused' to use it as it was intended. the additional cash, taken from EOs can be overturned.
 
Tell GAO that we will use the money for military construction like congress actually intended

Another one who has no clue how Gov't funding works.

Or if you do have a clue you sure aren't letting on that you do.

Of course I do, Congress allocates funding for specific purposes

Trump stole from the military and diverted it to his wall
 
Tell GAO that we will use the money for military construction like congress actually intended

Another one who has no clue how Gov't funding works.

Or if you do have a clue you sure aren't letting on that you do.

Of course I do, Congress allocates funding for specific purposes

Trump stole from the military and diverted it to his wall

bingo.


Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall
Daisy Nguyen, The Associated Press
June 26, 2020


SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court on Friday ruled against the Trump administration in its transfer of $2.5 billion from military construction projects to build sections of the U.S. border wall with Mexico, ruling it illegally sidestepped Congress, which gets to decide how to use the funds.

In two opinions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a coalition of border states and environmental groups that contended the money transfer was unlawful and that building the wall would pose environmental threats.
Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall

how long b4 meBelle's obligatory reply that the source of
the AP/MILITARY TIMES is not credible either?
 
Tell GAO that we will use the money for military construction like congress actually intended

Another one who has no clue how Gov't funding works.

Or if you do have a clue you sure aren't letting on that you do.

Of course I do, Congress allocates funding for specific purposes

Trump stole from the military and diverted it to his wall

bingo.


Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall
Daisy Nguyen, The Associated Press
June 26, 2020


SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court on Friday ruled against the Trump administration in its transfer of $2.5 billion from military construction projects to build sections of the U.S. border wall with Mexico, ruling it illegally sidestepped Congress, which gets to decide how to use the funds.

In two opinions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a coalition of border states and environmental groups that contended the money transfer was unlawful and that building the wall would pose environmental threats.
Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall

how long b4 meBelle's obligatory reply that the source of
the AP/MILITARY TIMES is not credible either?
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
that says everything you need to know.
You don't mention any appeal nor this decision being shot down.
Making arguments against the wall with Pelosi abusing power & wasting tax dollars on a false narrative base wall Around the Capitol for propaganda affect to benefit her party, makes for hypocracy and deflection at it's highest level.
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Tell GAO that we will use the money for military construction like congress actually intended

Another one who has no clue how Gov't funding works.

Or if you do have a clue you sure aren't letting on that you do.

Of course I do, Congress allocates funding for specific purposes

Trump stole from the military and diverted it to his wall

bingo.


Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall
Daisy Nguyen, The Associated Press
June 26, 2020


SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court on Friday ruled against the Trump administration in its transfer of $2.5 billion from military construction projects to build sections of the U.S. border wall with Mexico, ruling it illegally sidestepped Congress, which gets to decide how to use the funds.

In two opinions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a coalition of border states and environmental groups that contended the money transfer was unlawful and that building the wall would pose environmental threats.
Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall

how long b4 meBelle's obligatory reply that the source of
the AP/MILITARY TIMES is not credible either?
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
that says everything you need to know.
You don't mention any appeal nor this decision being shot down.
Making arguments against the wall with Pelosi abusing power & wasting tax dollars on a false narrative base wall Around the Capitol for propaganda affect to benefit her party, makes for hypocracy and deflection at it's highest level.
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nancy pelosi has nothing to do with the security of the capital.

do try to learn something.
 
Tell GAO that we will use the money for military construction like congress actually intended

Another one who has no clue how Gov't funding works.

Or if you do have a clue you sure aren't letting on that you do.

Of course I do, Congress allocates funding for specific purposes

Trump stole from the military and diverted it to his wall

bingo.


Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall
Daisy Nguyen, The Associated Press
June 26, 2020


SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court on Friday ruled against the Trump administration in its transfer of $2.5 billion from military construction projects to build sections of the U.S. border wall with Mexico, ruling it illegally sidestepped Congress, which gets to decide how to use the funds.

In two opinions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a coalition of border states and environmental groups that contended the money transfer was unlawful and that building the wall would pose environmental threats.
Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall

how long b4 meBelle's obligatory reply that the source of
the AP/MILITARY TIMES is not credible either?
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
that says everything you need to know.
You don't mention any appeal nor this decision being shot down.
Making arguments against the wall with Pelosi abusing power & wasting tax dollars on a false narrative base wall Around the Capitol for propaganda affect to benefit her party, makes for hypocracy and deflection at it's highest level.
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ummmm. ... it was the appeal, dummy. trump lost.
 
Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?

Using discretionary funds is not abusing the 'laws'.

Yes it is.

Clause 7. No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

APPROPRIATIONS
The restriction on drawing money from the Treasury “was intended as a restriction upon the disbursing authority of the Executive department,” and “means simply that no money can be paid out of the Treasury unless it has been appropriated by an act of Congress.”


The Pentagon — not Mexico — will again be paying for the construction of President Donald Trump’s wall on the US’s southern border, to the tune of $7.2 billion in 2020.

According to a Washington Post report, the White House will use last year’s national emergency declaration to pull $3.5 billion from military counter-drug enforcement, up significantly from the $2.5 billion taken from the same program in 2019. An additional $3.2 billion will be taken from Department of Defense construction projects for additional fencing projects. The number is more than five times the amount allocated to barrier construction by Congress for 2020.
www.vox.com › 2020/1/14 › 21065352

That $$$ was appropriated by congress.

No, really?

Screw WaPo and Vox - show me the bills.

Why did OldLady Thumb up the following post.

Concerned American said the same dam thing I posted!

Hypocrite.
Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?
That move was within the POTUS powers of discretion--it was viewed as defense. This money has already been party to contract--the current WH squatter can't unilaterally cancel the contract, penalties.

There are no bills, it's in the constitution.

Article I, section 9, clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution states that "No money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law..." This is what gives Congress the power to make these appropriations.
The money had already been appropriated for the dept. of defense. It was determined that southern border security was homeland security. Biden is redirecting money that has already been allotted.
 
Biden ‘Under Investigation’ By GAO For Halting Billions Of Dollars To Finish Border Wall, Report Says
BREAKING: Biden ‘Under Investigation’ By GAO For Halting Billions Of Dollars To Finish Border Wall, Report Says | The Daily Wire
23 Mar 2021 ~~ By Ryan Saaverda


Democrat President Joe Biden is reportedly “under investigation” for halting billions of dollars in payments that were set to go out to companies that were tasked with finishing President Donald Trump’s southern border wall.
“Now the Government Accountability Office is launching a review to determine whether the new president broke the law by freezing the money in violation of budget rules designed to keep Congress in control of the cash flow,” Politico reported. “The probe highlights the challenge presidents have historically faced in fulfilling campaign promises that require money to be spent — or suspended — at odds with Congress’ intent.”
The report comes as Biden’s border crisis has overwhelmed the U.S.-Mexico border, promoting backlash against Biden from Republicans, Democrats, and even the president of Mexico.
Forty Senate Republicans said in a letter to the Government Accountability Office that in “the weeks that followed” Biden suspending construction of the border wall that “operational control of our southern border was comprised and a humanitarian and national security crisis has ensued.”
~Snip~
The lawmakers wrote:
We are writing to be added as co-requesters of a March 17, 2021 letter, signed by 40 United States Senators, requesting the Government Accountability Office’s investigation and legal opinion on the actions of the Biden Administration to suspend border wall construction and to order a freeze of funds provided by Congress for that purpose, which we believe violated the Impoundment Control Act.
The news comes as the southern border has become overwhelmed under Biden’s leadership after the president reversed numerous policies put in place by the Trump administration. In at least one sector on the U.S. border, the Biden administration has started to release illegal border crossers into the U.S. without scheduling any kind of a court date for the migrants. Recent reports have indicated that there are more than 15,000 unaccompanied minors in U.S. custody, which is nearly twice as high as the previous record. The Washington Post recently highlighted how the Biden administration was repeatedly warned that a crisis would erupt on the border if they undid Trump’s policies—a warning that came from career officials, not just political appointees.


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In the meantime it's costing $6 million a day for all the equipment lying unused and hundreds of workers unemployed because of a petulant Chyna Joey Xi and his handlers.
Not only is Joey Xi incompetent to stand trial he wasn’t legitimately elected so he can’t be held accountable for any Executive actions he’s taken.
His lawyers have a golden client.
He could allowed the wall to be built as well as the pipeline but he is spineless sellout and the worst kind of American. Maybe we can fight to get both done as this rotting fool wastes away and before giggles the Ho takes over.
What he and his handlers have perpetrated on Americ is something far, far worse than anything Trump ever did. Democrats in their power hungry spree ruin everything.
I said it, and I'll say till the cows come home, that Biden is a national security risk, and should have never been allowed to be president. I have called these things right so many times.

The only national security risk is in Palm Beach, sitting on his fat ass.

Well that man isn't letting thousands of illegals into the country. Many with the Chinese virus. And he sure didn't stop construction on the funded wall.

Guess that leaves your stuttering fuck as the security risk.
 
T**** claimed it a defense issue, an emergency or disaster or something, and the court said he had the right to call it that because of that damned law passed during Clinton's term, but that law was not designed for the purpose T**** used it for, and HE DIDN'T GET APPROVAL FROM CONGRESS EITHER.
He had approval from the courts. He didn't need approval from Congress.


Not us that love communist and Russia.
Is that why you people elected a communist to be Mayor of New York City.


Not everyone agrees he should have declared a national emergency to do this.
Look at the border today and tell me it's not a national emergency...caused by the Biden Crime Family halting the wall construction and inviting the mass migration of criminals and possibly Covid-19 infected people into the US. Continuation of Trump's border policies would have prevented all this shit Biden has caused. And the dimwits in his administration don't even want it called a "crisis".

"Is that why you people elected a communist to be Mayor of New York City".
Never heard De Blasio defend Russia.
Never heard De Blasio defend N. Korea.
Never heard De Blasio defend China.
Never heard De Blasio praise Russia.
Never heard De Blasio praise N. Korea.
Never heard De Blasio praise China.

You're dear leader did.
Explain this:
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Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?

Using discretionary funds is not abusing the 'laws'.

Yes it is.

Clause 7. No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

APPROPRIATIONS
The restriction on drawing money from the Treasury “was intended as a restriction upon the disbursing authority of the Executive department,” and “means simply that no money can be paid out of the Treasury unless it has been appropriated by an act of Congress.”


The Pentagon — not Mexico — will again be paying for the construction of President Donald Trump’s wall on the US’s southern border, to the tune of $7.2 billion in 2020.

According to a Washington Post report, the White House will use last year’s national emergency declaration to pull $3.5 billion from military counter-drug enforcement, up significantly from the $2.5 billion taken from the same program in 2019. An additional $3.2 billion will be taken from Department of Defense construction projects for additional fencing projects. The number is more than five times the amount allocated to barrier construction by Congress for 2020.
www.vox.com › 2020/1/14 › 21065352

That $$$ was appropriated by congress.

No, really?

Screw WaPo and Vox - show me the bills.

Why did OldLady Thumb up the following post.

Concerned American said the same dam thing I posted!

Hypocrite.
Didn't T**** do the same thing when he abused the laws to take funding from the military and bypass Congress in order to build it, too?
That move was within the POTUS powers of discretion--it was viewed as defense. This money has already been party to contract--the current WH squatter can't unilaterally cancel the contract, penalties.

There are no bills, it's in the constitution.

Article I, section 9, clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution states that "No money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law..." This is what gives Congress the power to make these appropriations.
Trump didn't appropriate the money. He reassigned some that had already be appropriated. He did it with approval from the federal courts.
 
Tell GAO that we will use the money for military construction like congress actually intended

Another one who has no clue how Gov't funding works.

Or if you do have a clue you sure aren't letting on that you do.

Of course I do, Congress allocates funding for specific purposes

Trump stole from the military and diverted it to his wall

bingo.


Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall
Daisy Nguyen, The Associated Press
June 26, 2020


SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court on Friday ruled against the Trump administration in its transfer of $2.5 billion from military construction projects to build sections of the U.S. border wall with Mexico, ruling it illegally sidestepped Congress, which gets to decide how to use the funds.

In two opinions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a coalition of border states and environmental groups that contended the money transfer was unlawful and that building the wall would pose environmental threats.
Appeals court: Trump wrongly diverted $2.5 billion in military construction funds for border wall

how long b4 meBelle's obligatory reply that the source of
the AP/MILITARY TIMES is not credible either?
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
9th U.S. Circuit Court
that says everything you need to know.
You don't mention any appeal nor this decision being shot down.
Making arguments against the wall with Pelosi abusing power & wasting tax dollars on a false narrative base wall Around the Capitol for propaganda affect to benefit her party, makes for hypocracy and deflection at it's highest level.
View attachment 472069

nancy pelosi has nothing to do with the security of the capital.

do try to learn something.

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