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You got it wrong ONCE AGAIN.
I'm the onlooker.
Look up "delusional".
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You're being a little hard on yourself.
![]()
You got it wrong ONCE AGAIN.
I'm the onlooker.
Look up "delusional".
Get back to me.
dimocraps are stupid. And what's much, much worse... They like it that way
Several years old but it still applies
Breakdown of the Black Family, and Its Consequences - Discover the Networks
According to the modern-day civil-rights establishment, most of the problems that currently afflict African Americans result directly from the intractable white racism that allegedly continues to plague blacks in every region of the country -- across all age groups, all educational levels, and all income brackets. This civil-rights elite largely ignores the role of issues within the black community, such as the calamitous breakdown of the black family since the 1960s, in framing its critique.
In mid-1960s America, the nation's out-of-wedlock birth rate (which stood at 7.7 percent at the time) began a rapid and relentless climb across all demographic lines, a climb that would continue unabated until 1994, when the Welfare Reform Act put the brakes on that trend. Today the overall American illegitimacy rate is about 33 percent (26 percent for whites). For blacks, it hovers at near 70 percent (currently, it is over 80%)approximately three times the level of black illegitimacy that existed when the War on Poverty began in 1964.
Illegitimacy is an important issue because it has a great influence on all statistical indicators of a population groups progress or decline. In 1987, for the first time in the history of any American racial or ethnic group, the birth rate for unmarried black women surpassed that for married black women, and that trend continued uninterrupted until the passage of welfare reform. The black out-of-wedlock birth rates in some inner cities now exceed 80 percent, and most of those mothers are teens. Because unmarried teenage motherswhatever their racetypically have no steady employment, nearly 80 percent of them apply for welfare benefits within five years after giving birth to their first child. No group can withstand such a wholesale collapse of its family structure without experiencing devastating social consequences.
Father-absent familiesblack and white alikegenerally occupy the bottom rung of our societys economic ladder. Unwed mothers, regardless of their race, are four times more likely to live in poverty than the average American. Female-headed black families earn only 36 percent as much as two-parent black families, and female-headed white families earn just 46 percent as much as two-parent white families. Not only do unmarried mothers tend to earn relatively little, but their households are obviously limited to a single breadwinnerthus further widening the income gap between one-parent and two-parent families. Fully 85 percent of all black children in poverty live in single-parent, mother-child homes.
While the overall black poverty rate remains about two-and-a-half times higher than the white poverty rate (24 percent vs. 10 percent), the face of black poverty has changed dramatically in recent decades. At one time, almost all black families were poor, regardless of whether one or both parents were present. Today, however, two-parent black families are rarely poor. Among black families where both the husband and wife work full-time, the current poverty rate is a mere 2 percent. Moreover, the relatively small (13 percent) income disparity between black and white two-parent families completely disappears when we take into account such factors as occupational choices, educational attainment, age, geographic location, and comparative skills.
Children in single-parent households are raised not only with economic, but also social and psychological, disadvantages. For instance, they are four times as likely as children from intact families to be abused or neglected; much likelier to have trouble academically; twice as prone to drop out of school; three times more likely to have behavioral problems; much more apt to experience emotional disorders; far likelier to have a weak sense right and wrong; significantly less able to delay gratification and to control their violent or sexual impulses; two-and-a-half times likelier to be sexually active as teens; approximately twice as likely to conceive children out-of-wedlock when they are teens or young adults; and three times likelier to be on welfare when they reach adulthood.
In addition, growing up without a father is a far better forecaster of a boys future criminality than either race or poverty. Regardless of race, 70 percent of all young people in state reform institutions were raised in fatherless homes, as were 60 percent of rapists, 72 percent of adolescent murderers, and 70 percent of long-term prison inmates. As Heritage Foundation scholar Robert Rector has noted, Illegitimacy is a major factor in America's crime problem. Lack of married parents, rather than race or poverty, is the principal factor in the crime rate.
Since the black illegitimacy rate is so high, these pathologies plague blacks more than they affect any other demographic. Even if white people were to become morally rejuvenated tomorrow, writes black economist and professor Walter E. Williams, it would do nothing for the problems plaguing a large segment of the black community. Illegitimacy, family breakdown, crime, and fraudulent education are devastating problems, but they are not civil rights problems.
The civil-rights establishment, however, paints a very different picture, characterizing such problems as nothing more than by-products of white racism. That view, through decades of constant repetition, has won the minds of many black Americans. Instead of admitting that racism has declined, observes Shelby Steele, we [blacks] argue all the harder that it is still alive and more insidious than ever. We hold race up to shield us from what we do not want to see in ourselves.
It bears mention that the astronomical illegitimacy rate among African Americans is a relatively recent phenomenon. As late as 1950, black women nationwide were more likely to be married than white women, and only 9 percent of black families with children were headed by a single parent. In the 1950s, black children had a 52 percent chance of living with both their biological parents until age seventeen; by the 1980s those odds had dwindled to a mere 6 percent. In 1959, only 2 percent of black children were reared in households in which the mother never married; today that figure approaches 60 percent.
The destruction of this stable black family was set in motion by the policies and teachings of the left, which for decades have encouraged blacks to view themselves as outcasts from a hostile American society; to identify themselves as perpetual victims who are entitled to compensatory privileges designed to level the playing field in a land where discrimination would otherwise run rampant; and to reject white norms and traditions as part and parcel of the racist culture that allegedly despises blacks. It is not inconceivable that one of those traditions which many blacks have chosen to abjure is the institution of marriage. In their landmark book America in Black and White, Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom make this profoundly important observation:
In the past three decades the proportion of intact married-couple families has declined precipitously even though the fraction of black women aged fifteen to forty-four who were divorced, separated, or widowed also went down. It is thus not divorce but the failure to marry that has led to such a momentous change in black family patterns. The marriage rate for African Americans has plummeted in the past third of a century. In 1960 lack women were only a shade less likely to marry than white women.... Today a clear majority of African American women aged fifteen to forty-five have never been married, as compared with just a third of their white counterparts . Many fewer black women are marrying, and yet they continue to have childrenwhich was not the case in an earlier era.
dimocraps are just stupid.
And useless
You expect anyone to take this crap seriously?
Yeah..black Americans are poor because they brought it on themselves.
It has nothing to do with over 200 years of oppression..the poverty just happened.
Gosh.
You folks are silly.
Too bad Edge included a link because now where will he get his next topics from
RESOURCES:
The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies
By Kay Hymowitz
August 25, 2005
The Real Root Causes of Violent Crime: The Breakdown of Marriage, Family, and Community
By Patrick Fagan, Ph.D.
March 17, 1995
The Origin of Black Female-Headed Families
By Erol Ricketts
1989
The Moynihan Report and Ongoing Family Breakdown
By Rich Lowry
May 11, 2010
Why Our Black Families Are Failing
By William Raspberry
July 25, 2005
Diverse site ya got there. By Site I mean blog. And by blog I mean links to Heritage Foundation.
Sheesh
Too bad Edge included a link because now where will he get his next topics from
Diverse site ya got there. By Site I mean blog. And by blog I mean links to Heritage Foundation.
Sheesh
Maybe you should reading something written by people with an IQ.
It would be a nice change for you.
Instead of getting your news from Comedy Central, I mean. Or CNN and pMSNBC.
Which are essentially the same thing
Maybe you can pretend youre a stamp. Stick to one thing until you get to your point.
But that would be what someone who has a point would do.
dimocraps are stupid. And what's much, much worse... They like it that way
Several years old but it still applies
Breakdown of the Black Family, and Its Consequences - Discover the Networks
dimocraps are just stupid.
And useless
You expect anyone to take this crap seriously?
Yeah..black Americans are poor because they brought it on themselves.
It has nothing to do with over 200 years of oppression..the poverty just happened.
Gosh.
You folks are silly.
That's what you got out of that post? Seriously?
You're that stupid?
Guess so.
Remain a dimocrap, shallow. It's the only way you'll ever have any friends
Too bad Edge included a link because now where will he get his next topics from
RESOURCES:
The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies
By Kay Hymowitz
August 25, 2005
The Real Root Causes of Violent Crime: The Breakdown of Marriage, Family, and Community
By Patrick Fagan, Ph.D.
March 17, 1995
The Origin of Black Female-Headed Families
By Erol Ricketts
1989
The Moynihan Report and Ongoing Family Breakdown
By Rich Lowry
May 11, 2010
Why Our Black Families Are Failing
By William Raspberry
July 25, 2005
Diverse site ya got there. By Site I mean blog. And by blog I mean links to Heritage Foundation.
Sheesh
Beats the info from the rags you consult.
dimocraps are stupid. And what's much, much worse... They like it that way
Several years old but it still applies
Breakdown of the Black Family, and Its Consequences - Discover the Networks
dimocraps are just stupid.
And useless
You expect anyone to take this crap seriously?
Yeah..black Americans are poor because they brought it on themselves.
It has nothing to do with over 200 years of oppression..the poverty just happened.
Gosh.
You folks are silly.
That sounds like exactly what a racist Democrat would say to keep his nigras from gettin ideas.
You expect anyone to take this crap seriously?
Yeah..black Americans are poor because they brought it on themselves.
It has nothing to do with over 200 years of oppression..the poverty just happened.
Gosh.
You folks are silly.
That sounds like exactly what a racist Democrat would say to keep his nigras from gettin ideas.
Now what are you going on about?
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You expect anyone to take this crap seriously?
Yeah..black Americans are poor because they brought it on themselves.
It has nothing to do with over 200 years of oppression..the poverty just happened.
Gosh.
You folks are silly.
That sounds like exactly what a racist Democrat would say to keep his nigras from gettin ideas.
Now what are you going on about?
![]()
Too bad Edge included a link because now where will he get his next topics from
Diverse site ya got there. By Site I mean blog. And by blog I mean links to Heritage Foundation.
Sheesh
Beats the info from the rags you consult.
such as?
Beats the info from the rags you consult.
such as?
You are a stupid troll.
That one.
So in your opinion Edgie, since they are democrats, the KKK voted overwhelmingly for Obama in the last two elections?
Well isn't that interesting. The Democrat party put the black man in chains and spawned the KKK to kill them once the Republican party freed them. And now you would have us believe that the democrat party is all reformed and all yet their spawn the KKK is the same lynching military arm it always was. I am not sure what the KKK does anymore or why the democrat product is even around but I have not seen them lynch anyone in a very long time nor have I heard of them really doing much of anything. Me thinks that the KKK, if they do vote for Republicans, it is not because of race or how the Republicans treat black it is because of what the democrat party has become. Yeah the party might have changed in their rhetoric but what they have become is really not that much better. Kinda like the Nazi party, I would never belong to that group just because of their past associated with the name, even if they passed out presents to the people, as do the democrats.
I get my stats from the Bureau of Labor statistics, where did you get your "stats"?It means no such thing.
Theoretically, if 80% of a group aren't looking for work, 8% are working and 12% are drawing unempoyment....
That's 12% unemployment, not 92%
Your assertion is foolish and all too typical of someone that debates a topic with no understanding of it.![]()
From the BLS.
The difference is -- I'm literate
How many millions more Black folk are newly added to the Welfare and SSDI roles?
And what does this say about the intent or at least the callous disregard the Obama shows you.
We are being victimized worse than we were/are by the cigarette companies and the hi-test wine firms who just saw us as prey.
How many millions of white folk are newly added to Welfare and SSDI roles? What percentage of Blacks are on welfare? What percent of adult Black people are unemployed?
Obama doesn't know me personally nothing he has done has hurt my financial position. I'm not on welfare, unemployment, of SSDI, or any of those entitlement programs.
No one forced anyone to smoke cigarettes or to drink wine. Black unemployment is around 11 or 12%, that means that THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Blacks are employed.
If we allow these points to define the issue of Black victimization by the Obama government and especially the Democrat Party majority government we will have downed the ball far short of the first down marker.
Democrats = The Party of Racists.
Are "the Blacks" the sole recipients of those so-called "entitlement programs"? As for many Americans, many things have gotten a lot better for their fellow Black Americans. The problem was already there BEFORE the Great Society.If only ALL my peeps were able to understand just how similar today's Dems. are to Wallace et al.
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I'm all ears. How bad are they and how do the Repubs deserve our vote?
How have Democrat entitlement and entitlement programs changed the Black family for the worse since the 1960's when the Great Society was unleashed on us?
If you can't answer that I'll know how to deal with you.
dimocraps are stupid. And what's much, much worse... They like it that way
Several years old but it still applies
Breakdown of the Black Family, and Its Consequences - Discover the Networks
According to the modern-day civil-rights establishment, most of the problems that currently afflict African Americans result directly from the intractable white racism that allegedly continues to plague blacks in every region of the country -- across all age groups, all educational levels, and all income brackets. This civil-rights elite largely ignores the role of issues within the black community, such as the calamitous breakdown of the black family since the 1960s, in framing its critique.
In mid-1960s America, the nation's out-of-wedlock birth rate (which stood at 7.7 percent at the time) began a rapid and relentless climb across all demographic lines, a climb that would continue unabated until 1994, when the Welfare Reform Act put the brakes on that trend. Today the overall American illegitimacy rate is about 33 percent (26 percent for whites). For blacks, it hovers at near 70 percent (currently, it is over 80%)approximately three times the level of black illegitimacy that existed when the War on Poverty began in 1964.
Illegitimacy is an important issue because it has a great influence on all statistical indicators of a population groups progress or decline. In 1987, for the first time in the history of any American racial or ethnic group, the birth rate for unmarried black women surpassed that for married black women, and that trend continued uninterrupted until the passage of welfare reform. The black out-of-wedlock birth rates in some inner cities now exceed 80 percent, and most of those mothers are teens. Because unmarried teenage motherswhatever their racetypically have no steady employment, nearly 80 percent of them apply for welfare benefits within five years after giving birth to their first child. No group can withstand such a wholesale collapse of its family structure without experiencing devastating social consequences.
Father-absent familiesblack and white alikegenerally occupy the bottom rung of our societys economic ladder. Unwed mothers, regardless of their race, are four times more likely to live in poverty than the average American. Female-headed black families earn only 36 percent as much as two-parent black families, and female-headed white families earn just 46 percent as much as two-parent white families. Not only do unmarried mothers tend to earn relatively little, but their households are obviously limited to a single breadwinnerthus further widening the income gap between one-parent and two-parent families. Fully 85 percent of all black children in poverty live in single-parent, mother-child homes.
While the overall black poverty rate remains about two-and-a-half times higher than the white poverty rate (24 percent vs. 10 percent), the face of black poverty has changed dramatically in recent decades. At one time, almost all black families were poor, regardless of whether one or both parents were present. Today, however, two-parent black families are rarely poor. Among black families where both the husband and wife work full-time, the current poverty rate is a mere 2 percent. Moreover, the relatively small (13 percent) income disparity between black and white two-parent families completely disappears when we take into account such factors as occupational choices, educational attainment, age, geographic location, and comparative skills.
Children in single-parent households are raised not only with economic, but also social and psychological, disadvantages. For instance, they are four times as likely as children from intact families to be abused or neglected; much likelier to have trouble academically; twice as prone to drop out of school; three times more likely to have behavioral problems; much more apt to experience emotional disorders; far likelier to have a weak sense right and wrong; significantly less able to delay gratification and to control their violent or sexual impulses; two-and-a-half times likelier to be sexually active as teens; approximately twice as likely to conceive children out-of-wedlock when they are teens or young adults; and three times likelier to be on welfare when they reach adulthood.
In addition, growing up without a father is a far better forecaster of a boys future criminality than either race or poverty. Regardless of race, 70 percent of all young people in state reform institutions were raised in fatherless homes, as were 60 percent of rapists, 72 percent of adolescent murderers, and 70 percent of long-term prison inmates. As Heritage Foundation scholar Robert Rector has noted, Illegitimacy is a major factor in America's crime problem. Lack of married parents, rather than race or poverty, is the principal factor in the crime rate.
Since the black illegitimacy rate is so high, these pathologies plague blacks more than they affect any other demographic. Even if white people were to become morally rejuvenated tomorrow, writes black economist and professor Walter E. Williams, it would do nothing for the problems plaguing a large segment of the black community. Illegitimacy, family breakdown, crime, and fraudulent education are devastating problems, but they are not civil rights problems.
The civil-rights establishment, however, paints a very different picture, characterizing such problems as nothing more than by-products of white racism. That view, through decades of constant repetition, has won the minds of many black Americans. Instead of admitting that racism has declined, observes Shelby Steele, we [blacks] argue all the harder that it is still alive and more insidious than ever. We hold race up to shield us from what we do not want to see in ourselves.
It bears mention that the astronomical illegitimacy rate among African Americans is a relatively recent phenomenon. As late as 1950, black women nationwide were more likely to be married than white women, and only 9 percent of black families with children were headed by a single parent. In the 1950s, black children had a 52 percent chance of living with both their biological parents until age seventeen; by the 1980s those odds had dwindled to a mere 6 percent. In 1959, only 2 percent of black children were reared in households in which the mother never married; today that figure approaches 60 percent.
The destruction of this stable black family was set in motion by the policies and teachings of the left, which for decades have encouraged blacks to view themselves as outcasts from a hostile American society; to identify themselves as perpetual victims who are entitled to compensatory privileges designed to level the playing field in a land where discrimination would otherwise run rampant; and to reject white norms and traditions as part and parcel of the racist culture that allegedly despises blacks. It is not inconceivable that one of those traditions which many blacks have chosen to abjure is the institution of marriage. In their landmark book America in Black and White, Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom make this profoundly important observation:
In the past three decades the proportion of intact married-couple families has declined precipitously even though the fraction of black women aged fifteen to forty-four who were divorced, separated, or widowed also went down. It is thus not divorce but the failure to marry that has led to such a momentous change in black family patterns. The marriage rate for African Americans has plummeted in the past third of a century. In 1960 lack women were only a shade less likely to marry than white women.... Today a clear majority of African American women aged fifteen to forty-five have never been married, as compared with just a third of their white counterparts . Many fewer black women are marrying, and yet they continue to have childrenwhich was not the case in an earlier era.
dimocraps are just stupid.
And useless
Sure they did...not
ok then leftard; this is your chance to embarass me and put me ni my place. i'm waiting for the "real" story then.....
try not to shoot yourself in the foot!!
snicker
So the guy who just says "both genders and all races and ethnicities had it MUCH BETTER UNDER BUSH." without adding anything more is asking for proof?
Cant I do the same and say "no they didnt" or is proof to hard for you to provide in the first place?