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Boss takes on LGBTQ+

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Apr 21, 2012
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And, will do so like a Boss! ;)

First let me say, I am a libertarian constitutionalist. I believe in letting people pretty much do as they please as long as what they are doing isn't detrimental to others. I don't generally favor courts or government getting involved any more than they must in order to protect fundamental rights of individuals.

I've watched this LGBTQAAIGWXYZ+&et.all;etc. Movement evolve from it's humble beginnings. It really took off in the late 70s and early 80s with a raising of social consciousness about the bullying of pansies. 'Pansy' was the name commonly applied to boys who displayed homosexual behavioral stereotypes. Other more graphic pejoratives were "queer" and "homo". In any event, a lot of people could sympathize with these underdogs being bullied by society and it was relatively easy to build public support to protect these poor souls from the relentless attacks. It became more widely accepted in the 80s to be a male homosexual. The term "gay" became in vogue. Then came the AIDS epidemic. A social polarization happened as a result and in order to turn around the damage done to all the headway, the adoption of lesbian women and bisexuals stepped up to claim victimhood and appeal to public sympathies.

This begs my first question, how did "L" leapfrog over "G" in the acronym? I believe it was because of the negative stigma from AIDS. The Lesbian could be the new "front-man" of the movement, pardon the pun, and this could avoid direct connection with the negative stigma. But why not the Bisexual? Surely, these people are the most all-encompassing of sexuality as a whole, you'd think they would be the obvious leading face for the movement. I think the reason for this not being the case, and indeed, the reason they are relegated to a place behind the Gay, is because Bisexuality sort of has an illegitimacy about it. Like it's not really serious with regard to homosexuality, it's often just confused young people experimenting. Such a huge movement couldn't be trusted to the Bisexual who may or may not be homosexual tomorrow. It was far too risky, so they took the backseat to Lesbians and then Gays. We had the LGB movement.

At this point, we're well into the 90s and most places have implemented hate crime laws and protections against the gay community in general, which now included lesbians and bisexuals. So the movement was beginning to fade because there was a lack of "victims" on the news... enter the lowly transsexual. They had always been loosely associated with homosexuals but also had that same air of illegitimacy as the bisexual. But they were targeted victims of bullying and that served the needs of the movement, so they completed the acronym... LGBT and it became one big happy "community" to lobby for our social sympathies.

As the movement grew and obtained more social protections and influenced laws against discrimination, we see they continue to add letters to the acronym. This snowball effect is a direct result of trying to keep the social justice monster alive. In creating a paradigm where "gender" is no longer simply "male" or "female" you create a never-ending supply of victims to exploit. Last report, there are now over 63 gender identities, all of which are protected by The Movement.

This leads to my final questions: What is the logical conclusion here? Where does this thing end? At what point does this movement simply become so diluted with various gender identities that it becomes impossible to reconcile itself? What happens when a transsexual's "rights" are infringed by a bisexual's "rights" or visa versa? And what about the Lesbians, the preeminent leaders of this movement... what if one of them decides to stop being lesbian and settle down with a nice man and raise a family? Are they Forever Lesbians? Is it like being crowned Miss America, you have that title until you die? What about the transsexual who is actually heterosexual in every way, they just dig dressing up like women to get into the ladies rooms? Are we to just ignore them and pretend they pose no threat to the movement's legitimacy? And finally, what does this movement do when approached by the Pedophile? Are kiddie-diddlers deserving of a letter in the acronym?
 
Cool. Another topic for Boss to use his strawmen and "because I say so!" arguments.

The smarter people won't waste any time on it. Boss, have fun fantasizing about the gay people.
I think Boss recognizes as I and others do, that the LBGTQ faction are the spawn of the anti-Christ. And I ain't a Christian.
 
Crazy isn't it. I can't keep up, as long as everybody having sex are using protection, to stop VDs, HIV's and Cervical CA, I just do not care.
 
Well, the truth is, just like everything on the left, they have to keep pushing the envelope in order to create the outrage that their voting relies on. I mean really the modern Democratic party offers almost nothing but socialism to the general caste - and frankly, there are still a healthy majority that do not want socialism. Just as in the 'racism' claims overblown by the left SJW freaks, so too they went over the line with LGBT issues.

As for why us Bi's aren't 'leading the charge' so to speak, there's a bit of a stigma with us in the fringe community that took over (driven by Democrat politicians) they consider us to be 'not pure enough' in respect to the political agenda. The vast majority of us Bi folks are not worried about all the far end bullshit they are - pushing trans-gender bathrooms, pronouns, and so forth. In general we don't cross dress or play the attention games, we're in general happy with our bodies and with our mental state so we are in a sense immune to the agenda of riling us up and in fact we historically rejected the general idea that we were/are being 'persecuted.' (I think in large part because we are happy with who we are so we don't have the low self-esteem and hyper-emotional over-reaction to every little thing.) So in the long run we were not 'useful' to those 'forwarding the cause' and were thus discarded other than for numbers.

TLDR: We're not gay enough.
 
We're not gay enough.

Kind of the same conclusion I came to. Bisexuals aren't reliable stalwarts of "The Movement" because they risk turning straight on a whim. Another question might be, if someone was ever in their life a "bisexual" are they forever one until death? Is there a 'statute of limitations' that apply? What if they turn into transsexuals, do they lose some of their hierarchy in the pecking order? And with Lesbians... are they ONLY "Lesbian" if they've never had sexual relations with a man? Because, wouldn't that make them technically bisexual? Are some women Lesbians because they enjoy supremacy in the acronym hierarchy as opposed to bisexuals?

Are Lesbos the first letter in the acronym simply because lesbianism is easier for the general public to accept and tolerate? I mean, many straight heterosexual males have NO problem watching two women get it on... it's kind of a heterosexual fantasy. That's certainly not the case for two dudes. Why aren't there any heterosexual females who get off watching two dudes together... you never see that.

I really think that is why Lesbians got top billing.
 
Well, the truth is, just like everything on the left, they have to keep pushing the envelope in order to create the outrage that their voting relies on....

Agreed. When asked, they themselves can't even tell you what their end game is on the LGBT deviant sex cult agenda.. Really good OP BTW. Not seen it lined out that way...the hierarchy of frontmen for the cult. But it is logical and that appeals to me.
 
And, will do so like a Boss! ;)

First let me say, I am a libertarian constitutionalist. I believe in letting people pretty much do as they please as long as what they are doing isn't detrimental to others. I don't generally favor courts or government getting involved any more than they must in order to protect fundamental rights of individuals.

I've watched this LGBTQAAIGWXYZ+&et.all;etc. Movement evolve from it's humble beginnings. It really took off in the late 70s and early 80s with a raising of social consciousness about the bullying of pansies. 'Pansy' was the name commonly applied to boys who displayed homosexual behavioral stereotypes. Other more graphic pejoratives were "queer" and "homo". In any event, a lot of people could sympathize with these underdogs being bullied by society and it was relatively easy to build public support to protect these poor souls from the relentless attacks. It became more widely accepted in the 80s to be a male homosexual. The term "gay" became in vogue. Then came the AIDS epidemic. A social polarization happened as a result and in order to turn around the damage done to all the headway, the adoption of lesbian women and bisexuals stepped up to claim victimhood and appeal to public sympathies.

This begs my first question, how did "L" leapfrog over "G" in the acronym? I believe it was because of the negative stigma from AIDS. The Lesbian could be the new "front-man" of the movement, pardon the pun, and this could avoid direct connection with the negative stigma. But why not the Bisexual? Surely, these people are the most all-encompassing of sexuality as a whole, you'd think they would be the obvious leading face for the movement. I think the reason for this not being the case, and indeed, the reason they are relegated to a place behind the Gay, is because Bisexuality sort of has an illegitimacy about it. Like it's not really serious with regard to homosexuality, it's often just confused young people experimenting. Such a huge movement couldn't be trusted to the Bisexual who may or may not be homosexual tomorrow. It was far too risky, so they took the backseat to Lesbians and then Gays. We had the LGB movement.

At this point, we're well into the 90s and most places have implemented hate crime laws and protections against the gay community in general, which now included lesbians and bisexuals. So the movement was beginning to fade because there was a lack of "victims" on the news... enter the lowly transsexual. They had always been loosely associated with homosexuals but also had that same air of illegitimacy as the bisexual. But they were targeted victims of bullying and that served the needs of the movement, so they completed the acronym... LGBT and it became one big happy "community" to lobby for our social sympathies.

As the movement grew and obtained more social protections and influenced laws against discrimination, we see they continue to add letters to the acronym. This snowball effect is a direct result of trying to keep the social justice monster alive. In creating a paradigm where "gender" is no longer simply "male" or "female" you create a never-ending supply of victims to exploit. Last report, there are now over 63 gender identities, all of which are protected by The Movement.

This leads to my final questions: What is the logical conclusion here? Where does this thing end? At what point does this movement simply become so diluted with various gender identities that it becomes impossible to reconcile itself? What happens when a transsexual's "rights" are infringed by a bisexual's "rights" or visa versa? And what about the Lesbians, the preeminent leaders of this movement... what if one of them decides to stop being lesbian and settle down with a nice man and raise a family? Are they Forever Lesbians? Is it like being crowned Miss America, you have that title until you die? What about the transsexual who is actually heterosexual in every way, they just dig dressing up like women to get into the ladies rooms? Are we to just ignore them and pretend they pose no threat to the movement's legitimacy? And finally, what does this movement do when approached by the Pedophile? Are kiddie-diddlers deserving of a letter in the acronym?


How about just americans?
 
hmm "turning straight" is entirely subjective. I fell for my husband who doesn't believe in open marriages, but if my husband and I divorce or he keels over, no doubt I'll be chasing skirts. I still consider myself bi, even if I don't happen to be... "actively" bi at this time. My attraction to women has never faltered, and in fact, my husband has smacked me on the leg/arm for watching pretty women walk by (he's not LGBT friendly as he's a Christian man... he doesn't even know what he's missing ;) He also joke's that he's "taking one for the team" by keeping my 'debauchery' under control hahaha)
 
And, will do so like a Boss! ;)

First let me say, I am a libertarian constitutionalist. I believe in letting people pretty much do as they please as long as what they are doing isn't detrimental to others. I don't generally favor courts or government getting involved any more than they must in order to protect fundamental rights of individuals.

I've watched this LGBTQAAIGWXYZ+&et.all;etc. Movement evolve from it's humble beginnings. It really took off in the late 70s and early 80s with a raising of social consciousness about the bullying of pansies. 'Pansy' was the name commonly applied to boys who displayed homosexual behavioral stereotypes. Other more graphic pejoratives were "queer" and "homo". In any event, a lot of people could sympathize with these underdogs being bullied by society and it was relatively easy to build public support to protect these poor souls from the relentless attacks. It became more widely accepted in the 80s to be a male homosexual. The term "gay" became in vogue. Then came the AIDS epidemic. A social polarization happened as a result and in order to turn around the damage done to all the headway, the adoption of lesbian women and bisexuals stepped up to claim victimhood and appeal to public sympathies.

This begs my first question, how did "L" leapfrog over "G" in the acronym? I believe it was because of the negative stigma from AIDS. The Lesbian could be the new "front-man" of the movement, pardon the pun, and this could avoid direct connection with the negative stigma. But why not the Bisexual? Surely, these people are the most all-encompassing of sexuality as a whole, you'd think they would be the obvious leading face for the movement. I think the reason for this not being the case, and indeed, the reason they are relegated to a place behind the Gay, is because Bisexuality sort of has an illegitimacy about it. Like it's not really serious with regard to homosexuality, it's often just confused young people experimenting. Such a huge movement couldn't be trusted to the Bisexual who may or may not be homosexual tomorrow. It was far too risky, so they took the backseat to Lesbians and then Gays. We had the LGB movement.

At this point, we're well into the 90s and most places have implemented hate crime laws and protections against the gay community in general, which now included lesbians and bisexuals. So the movement was beginning to fade because there was a lack of "victims" on the news... enter the lowly transsexual. They had always been loosely associated with homosexuals but also had that same air of illegitimacy as the bisexual. But they were targeted victims of bullying and that served the needs of the movement, so they completed the acronym... LGBT and it became one big happy "community" to lobby for our social sympathies.

As the movement grew and obtained more social protections and influenced laws against discrimination, we see they continue to add letters to the acronym. This snowball effect is a direct result of trying to keep the social justice monster alive. In creating a paradigm where "gender" is no longer simply "male" or "female" you create a never-ending supply of victims to exploit. Last report, there are now over 63 gender identities, all of which are protected by The Movement.

This leads to my final questions: What is the logical conclusion here? Where does this thing end? At what point does this movement simply become so diluted with various gender identities that it becomes impossible to reconcile itself? What happens when a transsexual's "rights" are infringed by a bisexual's "rights" or visa versa? And what about the Lesbians, the preeminent leaders of this movement... what if one of them decides to stop being lesbian and settle down with a nice man and raise a family? Are they Forever Lesbians? Is it like being crowned Miss America, you have that title until you die? What about the transsexual who is actually heterosexual in every way, they just dig dressing up like women to get into the ladies rooms? Are we to just ignore them and pretend they pose no threat to the movement's legitimacy? And finally, what does this movement do when approached by the Pedophile? Are kiddie-diddlers deserving of a letter in the acronym?


How about just americans?
Oh identity politics has gone way beyond that.
 
And, will do so like a Boss! ;)

First let me say, I am a libertarian constitutionalist. I believe in letting people pretty much do as they please as long as what they are doing isn't detrimental to others. I don't generally favor courts or government getting involved any more than they must in order to protect fundamental rights of individuals.

I've watched this LGBTQAAIGWXYZ+&et.all;etc. Movement evolve from it's humble beginnings. It really took off in the late 70s and early 80s with a raising of social consciousness about the bullying of pansies. 'Pansy' was the name commonly applied to boys who displayed homosexual behavioral stereotypes. Other more graphic pejoratives were "queer" and "homo". In any event, a lot of people could sympathize with these underdogs being bullied by society and it was relatively easy to build public support to protect these poor souls from the relentless attacks. It became more widely accepted in the 80s to be a male homosexual. The term "gay" became in vogue. Then came the AIDS epidemic. A social polarization happened as a result and in order to turn around the damage done to all the headway, the adoption of lesbian women and bisexuals stepped up to claim victimhood and appeal to public sympathies.

This begs my first question, how did "L" leapfrog over "G" in the acronym? I believe it was because of the negative stigma from AIDS. The Lesbian could be the new "front-man" of the movement, pardon the pun, and this could avoid direct connection with the negative stigma. But why not the Bisexual? Surely, these people are the most all-encompassing of sexuality as a whole, you'd think they would be the obvious leading face for the movement. I think the reason for this not being the case, and indeed, the reason they are relegated to a place behind the Gay, is because Bisexuality sort of has an illegitimacy about it. Like it's not really serious with regard to homosexuality, it's often just confused young people experimenting. Such a huge movement couldn't be trusted to the Bisexual who may or may not be homosexual tomorrow. It was far too risky, so they took the backseat to Lesbians and then Gays. We had the LGB movement.

At this point, we're well into the 90s and most places have implemented hate crime laws and protections against the gay community in general, which now included lesbians and bisexuals. So the movement was beginning to fade because there was a lack of "victims" on the news... enter the lowly transsexual. They had always been loosely associated with homosexuals but also had that same air of illegitimacy as the bisexual. But they were targeted victims of bullying and that served the needs of the movement, so they completed the acronym... LGBT and it became one big happy "community" to lobby for our social sympathies.

As the movement grew and obtained more social protections and influenced laws against discrimination, we see they continue to add letters to the acronym. This snowball effect is a direct result of trying to keep the social justice monster alive. In creating a paradigm where "gender" is no longer simply "male" or "female" you create a never-ending supply of victims to exploit. Last report, there are now over 63 gender identities, all of which are protected by The Movement.

This leads to my final questions: What is the logical conclusion here? Where does this thing end? At what point does this movement simply become so diluted with various gender identities that it becomes impossible to reconcile itself? What happens when a transsexual's "rights" are infringed by a bisexual's "rights" or visa versa? And what about the Lesbians, the preeminent leaders of this movement... what if one of them decides to stop being lesbian and settle down with a nice man and raise a family? Are they Forever Lesbians? Is it like being crowned Miss America, you have that title until you die? What about the transsexual who is actually heterosexual in every way, they just dig dressing up like women to get into the ladies rooms? Are we to just ignore them and pretend they pose no threat to the movement's legitimacy? And finally, what does this movement do when approached by the Pedophile? Are kiddie-diddlers deserving of a letter in the acronym?
Libertarian? BS
 
~fistbump~ Boss we share at least that much of philosophy!

I apparently fall heavily into the libertarian "class" myself (86% in agreement with their policies.) ~shrug~ I've never been one to pay much attention to political classifications. I have been, and figure I'll always be, an independent because really I don't need a damn political party to define who I am. I don't /want/ it to define me, if that makes sense.
 
"Q" generally refers "questioning" (as in unsure) today.

It used to be "queer" as an umbrella for all the other orientations; I would technically be a Q because I'm bi with a masculine leaning identity. I'm not 'exactly' Bi, I'm not Transgender, I'm not a Lesbian, so I'd traditionally have fallen under the "queer" tag. Frankly I gave the fuck up and don't even use Q much less the rest of the damn alphabet. I say I'm LGBT and if someone wants to know more than that they can ask.
 
And, will do so like a Boss! ;)

First let me say, I am a libertarian constitutionalist. I believe in letting people pretty much do as they please as long as what they are doing isn't detrimental to others. I don't generally favor courts or government getting involved any more than they must in order to protect fundamental rights of individuals.

I've watched this LGBTQAAIGWXYZ+&et.all;etc. Movement evolve from it's humble beginnings. It really took off in the late 70s and early 80s with a raising of social consciousness about the bullying of pansies. 'Pansy' was the name commonly applied to boys who displayed homosexual behavioral stereotypes. Other more graphic pejoratives were "queer" and "homo". In any event, a lot of people could sympathize with these underdogs being bullied by society and it was relatively easy to build public support to protect these poor souls from the relentless attacks. It became more widely accepted in the 80s to be a male homosexual. The term "gay" became in vogue. Then came the AIDS epidemic. A social polarization happened as a result and in order to turn around the damage done to all the headway, the adoption of lesbian women and bisexuals stepped up to claim victimhood and appeal to public sympathies.

This begs my first question, how did "L" leapfrog over "G" in the acronym? I believe it was because of the negative stigma from AIDS. The Lesbian could be the new "front-man" of the movement, pardon the pun, and this could avoid direct connection with the negative stigma. But why not the Bisexual? Surely, these people are the most all-encompassing of sexuality as a whole, you'd think they would be the obvious leading face for the movement. I think the reason for this not being the case, and indeed, the reason they are relegated to a place behind the Gay, is because Bisexuality sort of has an illegitimacy about it. Like it's not really serious with regard to homosexuality, it's often just confused young people experimenting. Such a huge movement couldn't be trusted to the Bisexual who may or may not be homosexual tomorrow. It was far too risky, so they took the backseat to Lesbians and then Gays. We had the LGB movement.

At this point, we're well into the 90s and most places have implemented hate crime laws and protections against the gay community in general, which now included lesbians and bisexuals. So the movement was beginning to fade because there was a lack of "victims" on the news... enter the lowly transsexual. They had always been loosely associated with homosexuals but also had that same air of illegitimacy as the bisexual. But they were targeted victims of bullying and that served the needs of the movement, so they completed the acronym... LGBT and it became one big happy "community" to lobby for our social sympathies.

As the movement grew and obtained more social protections and influenced laws against discrimination, we see they continue to add letters to the acronym. This snowball effect is a direct result of trying to keep the social justice monster alive. In creating a paradigm where "gender" is no longer simply "male" or "female" you create a never-ending supply of victims to exploit. Last report, there are now over 63 gender identities, all of which are protected by The Movement.

This leads to my final questions: What is the logical conclusion here? Where does this thing end? At what point does this movement simply become so diluted with various gender identities that it becomes impossible to reconcile itself? What happens when a transsexual's "rights" are infringed by a bisexual's "rights" or visa versa? And what about the Lesbians, the preeminent leaders of this movement... what if one of them decides to stop being lesbian and settle down with a nice man and raise a family? Are they Forever Lesbians? Is it like being crowned Miss America, you have that title until you die? What about the transsexual who is actually heterosexual in every way, they just dig dressing up like women to get into the ladies rooms? Are we to just ignore them and pretend they pose no threat to the movement's legitimacy? And finally, what does this movement do when approached by the Pedophile? Are kiddie-diddlers deserving of a letter in the acronym?
:rofl:
 

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