Boy Drugged By Lesbian "Parents" To Be A Girl

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Damn you are dishonest aren't you.

See if there is a thread about something like that and I see it and choose to post in it, I denounce it.

Whilst you choose to make your snarky remarks instead because you're a piece of shit.

I don't say this lightly, but you truly are scum that the world will be better off without.

Ah...so you need a thread to have been already put about about that. Well, nice try. If you don't denounce the sexual abuse of 1 in 4 girls, and haven't done so, by Sil's rules, you support it, Mal.

I'm not Sil and don't care about his "rules" you stupid bitch.

You are in a thread about two faggots doing something disgusting to a child and you can't bring yourself to say it's wrong.

You're pathetic

You gonna melt down again, Mal? You're about due.

I'm still not Mal

But since this is a thread about children, I'm wondering about something.

You've said on this board that are you a mother.

How is this possible when you were "born" gay?

Nice try Mal....continue your meldown now.

Not a meltdown you silly cow. I just asked a question.

 

[bodecea]

Ah...so you need a thread to have been already put about about that. Well, nice try. If you don't denounce the sexual abuse of 1 in 4 girls, and haven't done so, by Sil's rules, you support it, Mal.

I'm not Sil and don't care about his "rules" you stupid bitch.

You are in a thread about two faggots doing something disgusting to a child and you can't bring yourself to say it's wrong.

You're pathetic

You gonna melt down again, Mal? You're about due.

I'm still not Mal

But since this is a thread about children, I'm wondering about something.

You've said on this board that are you a mother.

How is this possible when you were "born" gay?

Nice try Mal....continue your meldown now.

Not a meltdown you silly cow. I just asked a question.

Why so you did.....Mal asks a lot of questions. I remember you questions about necrophilia. You seemed to ask a lot about that at one time. Did you get the answers you wanted?

 

[Silhouette]

You two up to the old trick "let's make a flame war and get the thread shut down if we are afraid of the subject material being read"....again... *yawn*.

The topic is two lesbians and the LGBT community at large getting behind drugging a little boy to make him a girl because he rejects his male gender in the house he lives in.

Discuss. Take your flame war somewhere else..

 

[gallantwarrior]

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young....Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy...At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, psychiatrists diagnosed Thomas with gender identity disorder. By the age of eight, he began transitioning. ...The hormone-suppressant, implanted in his upper left arm, will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair. The California boy 11 who is undergoing hormone blocking treatment Daily Mail Online

Just after his first 6 formative years, this boy raised by two lesbians suddenly wants to femalize himself by genital mutilation. "Gender identity disorder" could also be called "my gender doesn't matter disorder"

The "father" lesbian on the right looks on sternly while the "mother" lesbian opines for the camera. The boy in the middle had a female hormone implant stuck in his arm on order from his lesbian "parents".. His body language perhaps the most telling of all. Notice his hands tightly clamped over his groin. At his age, he knows where this is all leading...(see pictures in my next post)..

No LGBTQ member has spoken out publicly or even privately to my knowledge to denounce this disgusting and abusive process.

It's helpful to understand how this could be happening on American soil to an American citizen/child if one understands what has happened to the final authoritative body that has given its stamp of approval to this: the APA or "American Psychological Association". Their quest for science and hard data has been tossed away in preference of "audited-group-think". It's called "CQR" and you can read more about how a cult works here: Federal Gay-Activist Judges Aren t to Blame They Rely on Science .. US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The issue named by the APA's accredited therapists is "gender identity disorder". I offer that because of CQR at the American Psychological Association, not enough research has been done, or it has been done and its results are "not acceptable" to the audit-group-think mandate that has replaced data and numbers there, the child may have been misdiagnosed.

It is conceivable that in a home where two women have rejected men (except one that dresses like, talks like and acts like a man...visit the link above for more pictures) so utterly as to marry each other, (well, not legally according to Judge Sutton), that any boy raised in that manifest-rejection environment might deduce with his simple, formative, childlike mind that "boy/male=rejected"..

Aside: For more on the 6th circuit court of federal appeal/Judge Sutton's support for states to reject gay marriage, see this link: 6th Circuit Federal Appeals Court Gives Thumb s Up to States Choice on Gay Marriage Page 12 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Now, I've not seen a survey done by the APA where so-called transgendered children were asked in a neutral/non-suggestive format where they came up with the idea that they didn't want to be their gender anymore. And I doubt any of us with the current "audit-group-think" (CQR) structure at the APA (de facto, cult) will see such a survey for as long as the Agenda runs that outfit and yanks its chain (audited...). So I'm suggesting to people's common sense, and more particularly, those who have known lesbians and have heard their near nonstop innuendo or outright beratement and rejection of males in their lives, that it is remotely possible that "Tammy" may have been a creation of their manifest rejection of males in general. The child is presenting with sypmtoms of the "parents" mental issues..

I heartily encourage anyone reading this to visit the link and others on this story, read the articles in depth, look at the photos and meditate within themselves as to ALL possibilities of what could be going on with this boy.....and not just the APA-audit-approved hasty "conclusion":

For Syriusly, who has trouble keeping the root issues in focus:

Well of course child abuse occurs in more than just gay homes. It's just that with the gay community, they get behind this and support it. In the hetero community the parents would have to leave town and hide out in the woods to avoid a crowd at their door with torches at night.

The issue here is institutionalized-child-abuse vs discouraged child abuse... It's a difference of CULTural values... the hetero community does not identify itself as "LGBT". The "T" is for "Transgender"....

I wonder whether anyone ever had the brains to explore the possibility that this poor child's suicidal tendencies might be related to his "parents" and the lifestyle the are offering him?

 

[gallantwarrior]

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young....":

A three year old article is a 'current event'?

First of all- this is a decision made by the child's parents with the consent and advice of his doctors.

Beyond that- this is a situation other families have dealt with- as I have pointed out- you just have your panties in a wad because this child's parents are gay.

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise - CBS News

Spack said by some estimates, 1 in 10,000 children have the condition.

Offering sex-changing treatment to kids younger than 18 raises ethical concerns, and their parents' motives need to be closely examined, said Dr. Margaret Moon, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' bioethics committee. She was not involved in any of the reports.

Some kids may get a psychiatric diagnosis when they are just hugely uncomfortable with narrowly defined gender roles; or some may be gay and are coerced into treatment by parents more comfortable with a sex change than having a homosexual child, said Moon, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.

Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

The report details 97 girls and boys treated between 1998 and 2010; the youngest was 4 years old. Kids that young and their families get psychological counseling and are monitored until the first signs of puberty emerge, usually around age 11 or 12. Then children are given puberty-blocking drugs, in monthly $1,000 injections or implants imbedded in the arm.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.

There are two issues going on here.

There is a real issue- what is the proper course of action for children with gender disorder?

And then there is your attempt to attack homosexuals by only bringing up this issue for one specific couple who are lesbians.

Once again- you use the welfare of children as tools to attack homosexuals.

Since the quote function was wonky- here it is again

A three year old article is a 'current event'?

First of all- this is a decision made by the child's parents with the consent and advice of his doctors.

Beyond that- this is a situation other families have dealt with- as I have pointed out- you just have your panties in a wad because this child's parents are gay.

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise - CBS News

Spack said by some estimates, 1 in 10,000 children have the condition.

Offering sex-changing treatment to kids younger than 18 raises ethical concerns, and their parents' motives need to be closely examined, said Dr. Margaret Moon, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' bioethics committee. She was not involved in any of the reports.

Some kids may get a psychiatric diagnosis when they are just hugely uncomfortable with narrowly defined gender roles; or some may be gay and are coerced into treatment by parents more comfortable with a sex change than having a homosexual child, said Moon, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.

Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

The report details 97 girls and boys treated between 1998 and 2010; the youngest was 4 years old. Kids that young and their families get psychological counseling and are monitored until the first signs of puberty emerge, usually around age 11 or 12. Then children are given puberty-blocking drugs, in monthly $1,000 injections or implants imbedded in the arm.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.

There are two issues going on here.

There is a real issue- what is the proper course of action for children with gender disorder?

And then there is your attempt to attack homosexuals by only bringing up this issue for one specific couple who are lesbians.

Once again- you use the welfare of children as tools to attack homosexuals.

How about using the child's welfare to stop the abusive and self-serving treatment his so-called "parents" insist on inflicting on him?
An aside, I would object just as vehemently if a hetero couple were abusing their child in this way. 'Tain't normal...

 

[gallantwarrior]

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young....":

A three year old article is a 'current event'?

First of all- this is a decision made by the child's parents with the consent and advice of his doctors.

Beyond that- this is a situation other families have dealt with- as I have pointed out- you just have your panties in a wad because this child's parents are gay.

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise - CBS News

Spack said by some estimates, 1 in 10,000 children have the condition.

Offering sex-changing treatment to kids younger than 18 raises ethical concerns, and their parents' motives need to be closely examined, said Dr. Margaret Moon, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' bioethics committee. She was not involved in any of the reports.

Some kids may get a psychiatric diagnosis when they are just hugely uncomfortable with narrowly defined gender roles; or some may be gay and are coerced into treatment by parents more comfortable with a sex change than having a homosexual child, said Moon, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.

Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

The report details 97 girls and boys treated between 1998 and 2010; the youngest was 4 years old. Kids that young and their families get psychological counseling and are monitored until the first signs of puberty emerge, usually around age 11 or 12. Then children are given puberty-blocking drugs, in monthly $1,000 injections or implants imbedded in the arm.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.

There are two issues going on here.

There is a real issue- what is the proper course of action for children with gender disorder?

And then there is your attempt to attack homosexuals by only bringing up this issue for one specific couple who are lesbians.

Once again- you use the welfare of children as tools to attack homosexuals.

Since the quote function was wonky- here it is again

A three year old article is a 'current event'?

First of all- this is a decision made by the child's parents with the consent and advice of his doctors.

Beyond that- this is a situation other families have dealt with- as I have pointed out- you just have your panties in a wad because this child's parents are gay.

Sex-change treatment for kids on the rise - CBS News

Spack said by some estimates, 1 in 10,000 children have the condition.

Offering sex-changing treatment to kids younger than 18 raises ethical concerns, and their parents' motives need to be closely examined, said Dr. Margaret Moon, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' bioethics committee. She was not involved in any of the reports.

Some kids may get a psychiatric diagnosis when they are just hugely uncomfortable with narrowly defined gender roles; or some may be gay and are coerced into treatment by parents more comfortable with a sex change than having a homosexual child, said Moon, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.

Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

The report details 97 girls and boys treated between 1998 and 2010; the youngest was 4 years old. Kids that young and their families get psychological counseling and are monitored until the first signs of puberty emerge, usually around age 11 or 12. Then children are given puberty-blocking drugs, in monthly $1,000 injections or implants imbedded in the arm.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.

There are two issues going on here.

There is a real issue- what is the proper course of action for children with gender disorder?

And then there is your attempt to attack homosexuals by only bringing up this issue for one specific couple who are lesbians.

Once again- you use the welfare of children as tools to attack homosexuals.

Odd isn't it- that Silhouette never mentions any of the other cases- whose parents just happen not to be gay?

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

This is a really interesting article on the issue. Not that Silhouette or any of the haters will read it- because it isn't just about attacking homosexuals

For his third Christmas, Tina bought Brandon a first-rate Army set—complete with a Kevlar hat, walkie-talkies, and a hand grenade. Both Tina and Brandon’s father had served in the Army, and she thought their son might identify with the toys. A photo from that day shows him wearing a towel around his head, a bandanna around his waist, and a glum expression. The Army set sits unopened at his feet. Tina recalls his joy, by contrast, on a day later that year. One afternoon, while Tina was on the phone, Brandon climbed out of the bathtub. When she found him, he was dancing in front of the mirror with his penis tucked between his legs. “Look, Mom, I’m a girl,” he told her. “Happy as can be,” she recalls.

“Brandon, God made you a boy for a special reason,” she told him before they said prayers one night when he was 5, the first part of a speech she’d prepared. But he cut her off: “God made a mistake,” he said.

Tina had no easy explanation for where Brandon’s behavior came from. Gender roles are not very fluid in their no-stoplight town, where Confederate flags line the main street. Boys ride dirt bikes through the woods starting at age 5; local county fairs feature muscle cars for boys and beauty pageants for girls of all ages. In the Army, Tina operated heavy machinery, but she is no tomboy. When she was younger, she wore long flowing dresses to match her long, wavy blond hair; now she wears it in a cute, Renée Zellweger–style bob. Her husband, Bill (Brandon’s stepfather), lays wood floors and builds houses for a living. At a recent meeting with Brandon’s school principal about how to handle the boy, Bill aptly summed up the town philosophy: “The way I was brought up, a boy’s a boy and a girl’s a girl.”
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A recent medical innovation holds out the promise that this might be the first generation of transsexuals who can live inconspicuously. About three years ago, physicians in the U.S. started treating transgender children with puberty blockers, drugs originally intended to halt precocious puberty. The blockers put teens in a state of suspended development. They prevent boys from growing facial and body hair and an Adam’s apple, or developing a deep voice or any of the other physical characteristics that a male-to-female transsexual would later spend tens of thousands of dollars to reverse. They allow girls to grow taller, and prevent them from getting breasts or a period.

Kids that age might be better off not watching "Silence of the Lambs", doya think?

 

[gallantwarrior]

One need only look at that photo to see he identifies more as a boy than a girl. They put pink jeans on him, but look at the knees on those jeans. . . . Do you see it? He has more mud stains on them than my own boy had at six, and my boy is VERY male. So obviously this kid is just trying to please his care givers. HE LOVES BEING A BOY.

GIVE ME A BREAK.

I'm so sorry these dykes couldn't get a girl to adopt. They need to seek some counseling for their man hating attitudes if they are to continue raising this boy. Look how sad he looks. Poor little guy.

Adopting a girl would have never provided the opportunity to prove their sick beliefs. You can't "transform" what already is. Poor kid, he's probably so damaged emotionally, psychologically, and physically...what chance does he have of being normal?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Yeah- well like I said...There is a real issue- what is the proper course of action for children with gender disorder?
And then there is your attempt to attack homosexuals by only bringing up this issue for one specific couple who are lesbians.
I already know the haters will focus on the lesbians, and ignore the cases where the children aren't raised by lesbians.

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

The REAL issue is one of culture. Heteros frown on this child abuse and make attempts to decry it publicly and denounce the parents who are engaged in it..I'm not considering the APA or AMA members who participate "part of the hetero community" BTW and neither should anyone else for reasons clearly stated in the OP (CQR...follow the links)

The proper course of action of "children with transgender disorder" (odd...and telling.. you would call part of your moniker "LGBT" "T" "a disorder" ) is for the APA to do a searching and fearless objective survey without leading questions to discover in private (child away from his or her parents) to discover what was really behind the child's rejection of their own gender. If a child is so riveted on denying reality, the proper course of action would be to put that child into therapy designed to re-guide their plastic mind back to reality...

Not to amputate its healthy organs and leave it suicidal, mutilated, sexually numb and incontinent..

(See bolded) That would be abusive and considered brainwashing, trying to "force" a child to accept a normal life when his parents have insisted otherwise.

 

[Syriusly]

There is no one calling for these families- or these doctors to be arrested for child abuse other than a few whackjobs like yourself.

Indeed- how could any law enforcement officer justify arresting someone for child abuse when the parents were following the recommendations of their medical doctors and there is no physical harm?

Only in the mind of Silhouette.

That isn't true at all. Google the names involved and you'll find plenty of people who think this is child abuse. In fact, in the article from the UK that the OP cited a very vocal detractor medical professional is quoted.

You think that if you just make shit up, it somehow changes reality. Denial and the defense of it can be such a time consuming business for you Syriusly....

Unlike yourself- I don't have a crusade that is focused exclusively on denying homosexuals equal rights.

As I pointed out- and will be glad to do so again- gender confusion is an issue that many families are dealing with- and the therapy that these parents are following is a therapy recommended by their doctors, and they are doing this along with many other families trying to grapple with this issue.

 

[Syriusly]

Yeah- well like I said...There is a real issue- what is the proper course of action for children with gender disorder?
And then there is your attempt to attack homosexuals by only bringing up this issue for one specific couple who are lesbians.
I already know the haters will focus on the lesbians, and ignore the cases where the children aren't raised by lesbians.

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

The REAL issue is one of culture. Heteros frown on this child abuse ..

Really?

I have quoted an article in the Atlantic Magazine- if this is child abuse- why haven't any of these heterosexual parents been arrested?

Face it- the only child you have raised this issue about is the child raised by homosexuals.

Even though it is easy to find articles about other families attempting to deal with the same issues- and easy to find articles about how children are being treated- you are posting the case from 3 years ago- only because the parents are gay.

I'll say differently

I don't give a shit who the parents are fucking, this is child abuse.

You are sick for defending it

Well I am okay with being called sick by a racist and bigot like yourself- so no problems there.

As I pointed out- and will point out again- what these parents are doing is no different than what some other parents in a similar situation- with the advice and consent of medical doctors- are doing.

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

Read the article- read about parents struggling to figure out how to help their children who are convinced that they are the wrong gender.

Silhouette wants this to be about how homosexuals treat their children.

What I am pointing out is this is an issue about parents and doctors trying to help children- and it is controversial- but it is not a 'gay' issue- it is a parent/child issue.

 

[Syriusly]

Well of course child abuse occurs in more than just gay homes. It's just that with the gay community, they get behind this and support it. In the hetero community the parents would have to leave town and hide out in the woods to avoid a crowd at their door with torches at night....The issue here is institutionalized-child-abuse vs discouraged child abuse... It's a difference of CULTural values... ..

No we don't. But it seems you have to lie again to make any kind of point.

Please post links to any gay or lesbian outfit or the APA or AMA denouncing this practice to the boy Thomas Lobel.

As you pointed out- the AMA is not denouncing how parents are dealing with their children suffering gender confusion.

Maybe its because the AMA is concerned with children- and you are not.

 

[Syriusly]

"This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," said Dr. Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University.s

So has Dr. McHugh filed a police report on this?

Medical doctors are required by law to report child abuse.

I havent' seen any news about him claiming to police that it is child abuse......

 

[Gracie]

Kid is too young. When he is 18 and an adult, he can choose whether he wants this procedure or not. Those two women need to back off. Or better yet, take the kid away from them until HE decides its what HE wants.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Kid is too young. When he is 18 and an adult, he can choose whether he wants this procedure or not. Those two women need to back off. Or better yet, take the kid away from them until HE decides its what HE wants.

I agree. This should wait until the kid is old enough to make his own medical decisions. Otherwise, forcing him to participate in self-mutilation is pretty abusive. I suspect that just living under the same roof with this pair of "parents" is pretty castrating, all on its own.

 

[Syriusly]

Kid is too young. When he is 18 and an adult, he can choose whether he wants this procedure or not. Those two women need to back off. Or better yet, take the kid away from them until HE decides its what HE wants.

I agree. This should wait until the kid is old enough to make his own medical decisions. Otherwise, forcing him to participate in self-mutilation is pretty abusive. I suspect that just living under the same roof with this pair of "parents" is pretty castrating, all on its own.

There is no self mutilation- at least there was none 3 years ago when the article Silhouette cites was written.

If you want to read a more in depth discussion of the issue- read this article

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

Agree or don't agree- the article is about parents struggling to find the best course for their children.

 

[Iceweasel]

Unlike yourself- I don't have a crusade that is focused exclusively on denying homosexuals equal rights.

As I pointed out- and will be glad to do so again- gender confusion is an issue that many families are dealing with- and the therapy that these parents are following is a therapy recommended by their doctors, and they are doing this along with many other families trying to grapple with this issue.

Equal rights means whatever you want it to mean apparently. I also call bullshit that most or even many doctors would recommend a superficial gender change. Some would, but there's no shortage of horror stories related to quacks. Speaking of which...

Can you imagine the expense if a child thought they were a duck? The surgeries for the little skinny legs, big webbed feet, all the feathers sown on, and the bill. Can you imagine the bill?!

Any sane doctor is going to tell a little boy that they are a little boy, not what they think they are. Then he would call child protective services and see if they can find out what kind of horrors go on behind locked doors.

 

[Iceweasel]

Agree or don't agree- the article is about parents struggling to find the best course for their children.

Get the boy away from the stupid assholes that can't even figure out what genders are. That's a big step in the right direction.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Kid is too young. When he is 18 and an adult, he can choose whether he wants this procedure or not. Those two women need to back off. Or better yet, take the kid away from them until HE decides its what HE wants.

I agree. This should wait until the kid is old enough to make his own medical decisions. Otherwise, forcing him to participate in self-mutilation is pretty abusive. I suspect that just living under the same roof with this pair of "parents" is pretty castrating, all on its own.

There is no self mutilation- at least there was none 3 years ago when the article Silhouette cites was written.

If you want to read a more in depth discussion of the issue- read this article

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

Agree or don't agree- the article is about parents struggling to find the best course for their children.

Like it, or not, forcing the child to take hormone inhibitors is self-mutilation. Not physically, but certainly chemically. Let him proceed naturally and allow him to make a decision when he reaches his majority.

 

[Syriusly]

Unlike yourself- I don't have a crusade that is focused exclusively on denying homosexuals equal rights.

As I pointed out- and will be glad to do so again- gender confusion is an issue that many families are dealing with- and the therapy that these parents are following is a therapy recommended by their doctors, and they are doing this along with many other families trying to grapple with this issue.

Equal rights means whatever you want it to mean apparently.s.

This has nothing to do with equal rights.

This has to do with parents trying to figure out the best way to help their children.

 

[Syriusly]

Kid is too young. When he is 18 and an adult, he can choose whether he wants this procedure or not. Those two women need to back off. Or better yet, take the kid away from them until HE decides its what HE wants.

I agree. This should wait until the kid is old enough to make his own medical decisions. Otherwise, forcing him to participate in self-mutilation is pretty abusive. I suspect that just living under the same roof with this pair of "parents" is pretty castrating, all on its own.

There is no self mutilation- at least there was none 3 years ago when the article Silhouette cites was written.

If you want to read a more in depth discussion of the issue- read this article

A Boy s Life - The Atlantic

Agree or don't agree- the article is about parents struggling to find the best course for their children.

Like it, or not, forcing the child to take hormone inhibitors is self-mutilation. Not physically, but certainly chemically. Let him proceed naturally and allow him to make a decision when he reaches his majority.

Did you read the article?