Brad Pitt has Never Been Accused of Sexual Harassment...Average Joe Does

[Auld Phart]

I've had hot guys hit on me, but, what makes them gross is their arrogance and attitude that you will want them so they can be assholes. I was never attracted to or interested in them.

So, it's not always about looks. You have to have a little sincerity and charm to go with it.

You have to have a little sincerity and charm to go with it.

Never been able to fake that

 

[martybegan]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment.

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Well, I think you're both right.

Talk about "gray areas". This is an issue that could pretty easily spin out of control, especially in this bizarre, intellectually dishonest, hyperbole-soaked time we're living in.

There is literally no way to define this specifically, and yet lives can be ruined by accusation, even if the accusation is a lie.

We need to be careful here, and there is zero (0) reason to believe we WILL be.
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Most of these are not cases of hitting on someone clumsily. Believe me I've done it plenty of times, from the pathetic drunk attempt at a neck kiss during a formal dance, to the brush your hands against hers at the bar. Trust me you know when you've crossed a line, and usually are told right away, then you back off, then no harm no foul except for some awkwardness. (oh god, the awkwardness)

Walking around naked in your hotel room when underlings come in and out is not clumsy hitting on. Having a freaking lock buzzer in your office is not clumsy hitting on. being frisky in an elevator over and over and over is not clumsy hitting on.

I do get that, but everyone has their own personal boundaries, and different levels of sensitivity to, uh, attention. What is "too far" for one isn't even on the radar screen of another.

Plus, given the way things are right now -- and I don't like saying this -- the potential for fraud (or even collusion among victims) is clearly there.
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"Too far" seems to be pretty well defined so far, but as I said in another thread, we may go the way of Salem and start a Witch Hunt that starts dragging in people just bad at courtship and flirting.

The simple thing to look at is power. In the current scenarios all the harassers/assaulters were the one with the power. In my examples above, the women were the one with the power, i.e. "keep going" or "um, what are you doing???? please stop"

I think that's very true - one of the reasons power corrupts is that it intimidates.
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It also inflates the ego of "3"'s (see we can rank men as well) who because of their clout think they are "9's" and deserve to be treated and reacted to as such.

Back in the old days if some codger wanted to get all randy with a woman, he either paid for it, or picked up a mistress of a lower class who was willing to trade sex for comfort.

In open society and situations he knew he would be ostracized if he started gunning for the upper class women around him, or even worse, challenged to a duel by an angry father or husband.

I wonder how much politeness in society we could bring back if "sabers at dawn, or pistols at noon" were valid options.

 

[Likkmee]

The bottom line here is when you pull your dick out in front of a woman and ask her to SUCK IT, be polite and say "please". OK ?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Or perhaps he gets a pass. Just throwing the point out there.

Well, has there been an indication that he does so? Is someone good-looking automatically a sexual harasser?

 

[Dragonlady]

Treat women respectfully and theatre is no problem. Treat them like franken, conyers, and moore then you have a problem. I am glad to see women speaking up. I am married to one who would have spoken up immediately against these repugnant males.

They would not say shit if the guy was “hot.”

When I was young, the hottest guy I knew grabbed my ass. I slapped his face. We weren't dating, but we did know each other. He apologized.

Uninvited touching is still uninvited touching. Even if the guy is hot.

 

[jillian]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment. When the average guy comes on, clumsily or not, it’s “Get away you pig!” But if a sexy guy were to move in same manner it would be , “Ohhhhhh Brad.” Total bullshit.

sexual harassment is only ok to trumptards

 

[jillian]

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Or perhaps he gets a pass. Just throwing the point out there.

Well, has there been an indication that he does so? Is someone good-looking automatically a sexual harasser?

all well and good to make up nonsense and give a false explanation for the nonsense one makes up.

I'm pretty sure that until someone accuses Brad Pitt of harassment, your fantasies are pointless. And unwanted touching is unwanted touching whether from a good looking man or not. No woman wants to be pawed or humiliated in her work place.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

 

[martybegan]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment. When the average guy comes on, clumsily or not, it’s “Get away you pig!” But if a sexy guy were to move in same manner it would be , “Ohhhhhh Brad.” Total bullshit.

sexual harassment is only ok to trumptards

30 years of democrats/progressives looking the other way seems to say otherwise.

 

[EverCurious]

I was talking about this in another thread. We need to have an adult conversation about what we're going to define/redefine as sexual harassment, assault, and rape because this hysterical knee jerk reaction defining is total bullshit and worse it is absolutely impossible to follow, much less adhere to. What offends one person simply isn't offensive to another so there's no "guideline" of behavior out there really, and worse some are saying that even getting a compliment like "you look nice today" is now sexual harassment. That's just crap IMO

Again, my personal preference and experience, when I wanted to get with my husband I didn't beta out, I grabbed his ass and stuck my tongue down his throat, that is simply the kind of personality I have. Yes, I've done this to women as well, and yea, I've been slapped once or twice by chicks - even because she didn't want it, and I got shut down by a guy for the same. However, every time I've been shot down it's a "oops" misread, it was never malicious. Hell I was positive the guy was totally into me because he flirted with me all the damn time, hard core sexual innuendo and everything (like joking around about me getting under the desk and crap.) Shit happens and we misread folks, but it doesn't always mean we're bad peeps :/ I know there are some that are bad peeps out there, but I'm not one of them, and I know other "forward" males who aren't either - tell us no and we're gonna be apologizing like crazy for the mistake because there was zero bad intentions. I mean I guess in the new day and age we're marginalized and ostracized, we'll have to have a special code or some shit - like that whole pants hanging down the ass is open kinda thing. Maybe we can start a hankie color code like the LGBT's have IDK. Something to say that we're okay with being hit on in that manner...

Although, these chicks who are offended by compliments... hell maybe we all need a symbol to say we're available to even be spoken to by the opposite sex. It'd be easier if these feminist haters wore something so everyone could stay the fuck away from them and not get sued... maybe a vagina hat

 

[Dragonlady]

Saying “You look nice today” to a co-worker is inappropriate, unless your job is dependant on your physical appearance, like spokesmodel or actress appearing on live TV.

If you’re a man, it’s easy. Don’t make comments to your female coworkers you wouldn’t make to a male coworker. Would you say to a male colleague “You look nice today”? Of course not. He’d look at your like you were nuts.

 

[bodecea]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment. When the average guy comes on, clumsily or not, it’s “Get away you pig!” But if a sexy guy were to move in same manner it would be , “Ohhhhhh Brad.” Total bullshit.

If men aren't free to grab women whenever they feel like it....are any of us truly free?

 

[bodecea]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment. When the average guy comes on, clumsily or not, it’s “Get away you pig!” But if a sexy guy were to move in same manner it would be , “Ohhhhhh Brad.” Total bullshit.

sexual harassment is only ok to trumptards

I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.

 

[evenflow1969]

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

He does not have to. Their pants drop and skirts lift before he would have a chance.Here is the thing women like sex! They are allowed to,just like the men. If they are willing then no harrassment. If they are not willing and one keeps up the offers then it is harrasment. I do not get the whole harrassment thing. My womenizing uncle taught me to just simply tell 10 women that if they wanted effection I would give it to them and then let it float. About two in 10 respond with a request for affection with in a week. It is that easy, why does one need to harrass?

 

[WinterBorn]

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

He does not have to. Their pants drop and skirts lift before he would have a chance.Here is the thing women like sex! They are allowed to,just like the men. If they are willing then no harrassment. If they are not willing and one keeps up the offers then it is harrasment. I do not get the whole harrassment thing. My womenizing uncle taught me to just simply tell 10 women that if they wanted effection I would give it to them and then let it float. About two in 10 respond with a request for affection with in a week. It is that easy, why does one need to harrass?

Flirting is not sexual harassment, unless the other person is under you in some capacity. But if your idea of flirting is to grab a woman's ass, as at least one person on this board thinks it is, then you misunderstand the definition of flirting and are prepared to sexually harass.

 

[Pop23]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment.

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Well, I think you're both right.

Talk about "gray areas". This is an issue that could pretty easily spin out of control, especially in this bizarre, intellectually dishonest, hyperbole-soaked time we're living in.

There is literally no way to define this specifically, and yet lives can be ruined by accusation, even if the accusation is a lie.

We need to be careful here, and there is zero (0) reason to believe we WILL be.
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Most of these are not cases of hitting on someone clumsily. Believe me I've done it plenty of times, from the pathetic drunk attempt at a neck kiss during a formal dance, to the brush your hands against hers at the bar. Trust me you know when you've crossed a line, and usually are told right away, then you back off, then no harm no foul except for some awkwardness. (oh god, the awkwardness)

Walking around naked in your hotel room when underlings come in and out is not clumsy hitting on. Having a freaking lock buzzer in your office is not clumsy hitting on. being frisky in an elevator over and over and over is not clumsy hitting on.

I do get that, but everyone has their own personal boundaries, and different levels of sensitivity to, uh, attention. What is "too far" for one isn't even on the radar screen of another.

Plus, given the way things are right now -- and I don't like saying this -- the potential for fraud (or even collusion among victims) is clearly there.
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The one size fits all bullshit is, bullshit after all. How many women do you know that dissed a "good Man", for the stereotypical "bad boy". I've know dozens. These were not the guys that asked for first kiss, but took what they wanted, and the female loved it!. Sends a signal to others, want to get some, be the bad boy. I stayed with my upbringing and remained the gentleman, but knew a lot of guys that said "screw this, I'm getting me some".

Yes, in the workplace one should always be professional, Men & Women, but being afraid to compliment someone, and that is where this is headed, will sure make a more stressful work environment.

 

[Pop23]

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

He does not have to. Their pants drop and skirts lift before he would have a chance.Here is the thing women like sex! They are allowed to,just like the men. If they are willing then no harrassment. If they are not willing and one keeps up the offers then it is harrasment. I do not get the whole harrassment thing. My womenizing uncle taught me to just simply tell 10 women that if they wanted effection I would give it to them and then let it float. About two in 10 respond with a request for affection with in a week. It is that easy, why does one need to harrass?

Flirting is not sexual harassment, unless the other person is under you in some capacity. But if your idea of flirting is to grab a woman's ass, as at least one person on this board thinks it is, then you misunderstand the definition of flirting and are prepared to sexually harass.

I once worked for a company that had a strict policy against employee dating. If you got caught dating a coworker, one would have to go, or both would be fired.

I quit the company for a better paying job but kept in contact with many there, including the boss. Two years after I quit I got a wedding invitation from my former boss, he was marrying his Secretary!

I laughed my ass off!

 

[evenflow1969]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment.

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Well, I think you're both right.

Talk about "gray areas". This is an issue that could pretty easily spin out of control, especially in this bizarre, intellectually dishonest, hyperbole-soaked time we're living in.

There is literally no way to define this specifically, and yet lives can be ruined by accusation, even if the accusation is a lie.

We need to be careful here, and there is zero (0) reason to believe we WILL be.
.

Most of these are not cases of hitting on someone clumsily. Believe me I've done it plenty of times, from the pathetic drunk attempt at a neck kiss during a formal dance, to the brush your hands against hers at the bar. Trust me you know when you've crossed a line, and usually are told right away, then you back off, then no harm no foul except for some awkwardness. (oh god, the awkwardness)

Walking around naked in your hotel room when underlings come in and out is not clumsy hitting on. Having a freaking lock buzzer in your office is not clumsy hitting on. being frisky in an elevator over and over and over is not clumsy hitting on.

I do get that, but everyone has their own personal boundaries, and different levels of sensitivity to, uh, attention. What is "too far" for one isn't even on the radar screen of another.

Plus, given the way things are right now -- and I don't like saying this -- the potential for fraud (or even collusion among victims) is clearly there.
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The one size fits all bullshit is, bullshit after all. How many women do you know that dissed a "good Man", for the stereotypical "bad boy". I've know dozens. These were not the guys that asked for first kiss, but took what they wanted, and the female loved it!. Sends a signal to others, want to get some, be the bad boy. I stayed with my upbringing and remained the gentleman, but knew a lot of guys that said "screw this, I'm getting me some".

Yes, in the workplace one should always be professional, Men & Women, but being afraid to compliment someone, and that is where this is headed, will sure make a more stressful work environment.

It is kinda sad how this is all going. It does look like the whole work thing is a very bad idea. The problem is, most the people I know as age starts to rize, the only people they know are people from work. here is going to be alot of lonely people out there if we do not do some thing soon. Most people are afraid to put themselves out there now add all of this complication to it.

 

[Mac1958]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment.

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Well, I think you're both right.

Talk about "gray areas". This is an issue that could pretty easily spin out of control, especially in this bizarre, intellectually dishonest, hyperbole-soaked time we're living in.

There is literally no way to define this specifically, and yet lives can be ruined by accusation, even if the accusation is a lie.

We need to be careful here, and there is zero (0) reason to believe we WILL be.
.

Most of these are not cases of hitting on someone clumsily. Believe me I've done it plenty of times, from the pathetic drunk attempt at a neck kiss during a formal dance, to the brush your hands against hers at the bar. Trust me you know when you've crossed a line, and usually are told right away, then you back off, then no harm no foul except for some awkwardness. (oh god, the awkwardness)

Walking around naked in your hotel room when underlings come in and out is not clumsy hitting on. Having a freaking lock buzzer in your office is not clumsy hitting on. being frisky in an elevator over and over and over is not clumsy hitting on.

I do get that, but everyone has their own personal boundaries, and different levels of sensitivity to, uh, attention. What is "too far" for one isn't even on the radar screen of another.

Plus, given the way things are right now -- and I don't like saying this -- the potential for fraud (or even collusion among victims) is clearly there.
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The one size fits all bullshit is, bullshit after all. How many women do you know that dissed a "good Man", for the stereotypical "bad boy". I've know dozens. These were not the guys that asked for first kiss, but took what they wanted, and the female loved it!. Sends a signal to others, want to get some, be the bad boy. I stayed with my upbringing and remained the gentleman, but knew a lot of guys that said "screw this, I'm getting me some".

Yes, in the workplace one should always be professional, Men & Women, but being afraid to compliment someone, and that is where this is headed, will sure make a more stressful work environment.

It is kinda sad how this is all going. It does look like the whole work thing is a very bad idea. The problem is, most the people I know as age starts to rize, the only people they know are people from work. here is going to be alot of lonely people out there if we do not do some thing soon. Most people are afraid to put themselves out there now add all of this complication to it.

If history is any indication, we're going to massively and comically knee-jerk towards over-compensating for this stuff, then we'll wake the hell up and calm down somewhat.

We can be a pretty silly species.
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[evenflow1969]

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

He does not have to. Their pants drop and skirts lift before he would have a chance.Here is the thing women like sex! They are allowed to,just like the men. If they are willing then no harrassment. If they are not willing and one keeps up the offers then it is harrasment. I do not get the whole harrassment thing. My womenizing uncle taught me to just simply tell 10 women that if they wanted effection I would give it to them and then let it float. About two in 10 respond with a request for affection with in a week. It is that easy, why does one need to harrass?

Flirting is not sexual harassment, unless the other person is under you in some capacity. But if your idea of flirting is to grab a woman's ass, as at least one person on this board thinks it is, then you misunderstand the definition of flirting and are prepared to sexually harass.

I once worked for a company that had a strict policy against employee dating. If you got caught dating a coworker, one would have to go, or both would be fired.

I quit the company for a better paying job but kept in contact with many there, including the boss. Two years after I quit I got a wedding invitation from my former boss, he was marrying his Secretary!

I laughed my ass off!

I always had a policy to avoid co-workers romanticaly. How ever, I once worked with a young lady that looked like Barbara Eden. I chatted with her a great deal as she was crazy attractive and extremely fun to talk to. One day she told me she was wearing no underware under her short skirt and my policy went out the window in a hurry!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bodecea]

This whole sexual harassment issue seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Women get to pick and choose what is or is not harassment.

Or maybe Brad Pitt doesn't sexually harass women.

Well, I think you're both right.

Talk about "gray areas". This is an issue that could pretty easily spin out of control, especially in this bizarre, intellectually dishonest, hyperbole-soaked time we're living in.

There is literally no way to define this specifically, and yet lives can be ruined by accusation, even if the accusation is a lie.

We need to be careful here, and there is zero (0) reason to believe we WILL be.
.

Most of these are not cases of hitting on someone clumsily. Believe me I've done it plenty of times, from the pathetic drunk attempt at a neck kiss during a formal dance, to the brush your hands against hers at the bar. Trust me you know when you've crossed a line, and usually are told right away, then you back off, then no harm no foul except for some awkwardness. (oh god, the awkwardness)

Walking around naked in your hotel room when underlings come in and out is not clumsy hitting on. Having a freaking lock buzzer in your office is not clumsy hitting on. being frisky in an elevator over and over and over is not clumsy hitting on.

I do get that, but everyone has their own personal boundaries, and different levels of sensitivity to, uh, attention. What is "too far" for one isn't even on the radar screen of another.

Plus, given the way things are right now -- and I don't like saying this -- the potential for fraud (or even collusion among victims) is clearly there.
.

The one size fits all bullshit is, bullshit after all. How many women do you know that dissed a "good Man", for the stereotypical "bad boy". I've know dozens. These were not the guys that asked for first kiss, but took what they wanted, and the female loved it!. Sends a signal to others, want to get some, be the bad boy. I stayed with my upbringing and remained the gentleman, but knew a lot of guys that said "screw this, I'm getting me some".

Yes, in the workplace one should always be professional, Men & Women, but being afraid to compliment someone, and that is where this is headed, will sure make a more stressful work environment.

How many men think "no" really means "yes"? How many men think that women are just playing "hard to get"? How many men try to force themselves on women and if she rejects him there's "something wrong with HER"?

We had this problem in the Navy after TailHook...and many still don't get it.

Treat women like you'd like your own mother, sister, wife, daughter to be treated....easiest way to stay out of trouble...unless you're a pig to them too.