Bragg’s Pursuit of Trump Violates the Sixth Amendment

[struth]

The grand jury has already decided otherwise... the judge and - perhaps - any subsequent trial jury - will decide whether the grand jury was right.

where? i’ve read the indictment…they outlined a lot of stuff in there…but where’s the crime?

 

[struth]

No, it does not have to be listed in the indictment, nor should it be. Why would Bragg box himself in? It will be demonstrated during discovery and litigated during the trial. It is contained within the Statement of Facts.

haha of course the crime has to be listed

what do you think the point of an indictment is??

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Then why did the grand jury decide to press forward? Why did the judge allow it to get underway? Why didn't he grant a motion to dismiss?

The motion to dismiss is certainly coming. The judge, if he's really crooked, will dismiss the indictment with leave to amend and allege a specific crime.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No, it does not have to be listed in the indictment, nor should it be. Why would Bragg box himself in? It will be demonstrated during discovery and litigated during the trial. It is contained within the Statement of Facts.

The entire purpose of an indictment is to give notice to the defendant what the charges are. Our entire system is based on a system that does not allow secret charges.

 

[Winston]

What crime?

It has been stated at least a dozen times in this very thread. The crime Cohen pled guilty to and served time for. Tax fraud as well.

 

[Winston]

haha of course the crime has to be listed

what do you think the point of an indictment is??

The crime is listed you stupid prick, falsifying business records in the first degree. Hell, it is listed 34 FLIPPIN TIMES.

 

[Winston]

The entire purpose of an indictment is to give notice to the defendant what the charges are. Our entire system is based on a system that does not allow secret charges.

And the indictment did list the crimes, what it did not do is note the crime that underlies rising the misdemeanor to a felony. Those are noted in the Statement of Facts. I mean can you people not read the damn indictment and Statement of Facts?

 

[struth]

The crime is listed you stupid prick, falsifying business records in the first degree. Hell, it is listed 34 FLIPPIN TIMES.

haha an indictment is suppose to give notice of how that was violated

anyone can say someone violated a code section…_an indictment is suppose to give the defendant notice of how it was violated…bragg alleges things that aren’t crimes…hence why he failed to state a crime and rhe indictment likely dismissed

 

[EvilCat Breath]

And the indictment did list the crimes, what it did not do is note the crime that underlies rising the misdemeanor to a felony. Those are noted in the Statement of Facts. I mean can you people not read the damn indictment and Statement of Facts?

If you see an underlying crime what is it since you are the only one who can.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The crime is listed you stupid prick, falsifying business records in the first degree. Hell, it is listed 34 FLIPPIN TIMES.

That's a misdemeanor and the statute ran years ago. What's the other crime?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Facts for Dummies:

 

[Lesh]

Trump faked taxi medallions? They could have just said so.

You lost AGAIN?

 

[Flopper]

Bragg has charged Trump with falsifying business records (a misdemeanor past the statute of limitations) and the “intent to commit a future more serious crime” (the unarmed felony).

Trump has a right to know what this unnamed future crime he intends to commit is. Otherwise, the Democrats could arrest me, and every Trump voter, on the grounds that we intend to commit a felony in the future.

The case against Trump is unconstitutional and should be tossed. Bragg should be disbarred for using the power of his office, along with his personal hate for a citizen, to violate that citizen’s Sixth Amendment Rights. And Biden should be insisting on that, instead of that evil smile when asked about it.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constit....law.cornell.edu/constitution/sixth_amendment

You're interpretation of the charging sentence below is incorrect. The phrase another crime is referring to the falsification of records on February 14, 2017. By writing "with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof" is what makes the falsification of records a felony. In the charge he does not mention election fraud because he is not charging the defendant with that. However it is the crime that caused the defendant to commit this crime.

The defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017,
with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof, made and caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise, to wit, an invoice from Michael Cohen dated February 14, 2017, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, and kept and maintained by the Trump Organization.

 

[Lesh]

Misdemeanor

Class b felony. Go away troll

 

[Lesh]

where? i’ve read the indictment…they outlined a lot of stuff in there…but where’s the crime?

The crimes (plural) consist of falsification of financial records in furtherance of a separate felony.

That crime is not required to be listed in NY state in the indictment but we all know it’s the payments to Stormy Daniels that got Cohen jail time

 

[Lesh]

nope it’s a misdemeanor

Assault and battery is a class b felony.

Fuck off troll

 

[Lesh]

haha of course the crime has to be listed

what do you think the point of an indictment is??

If you are referring to the crime Trump was aiding… no it does NOT have to be listed in NY state

 

[jc456]

Class b felony. Go away troll

Misdemeanor

 

[Lesh]

Misdemeanor

Say it as often as you want. You’re wrong

And a troll

 

[excalibur]

like what else?

Stormy's.