Breaking: Charleston SC, white male shoots 8 people at Souths oldest black church

[sealybobo]

why is some murders different than any other? they are all done out of hate

I thought we were all Equal under the Law

this is dangerous to say some people are more special than others.

I'm starting to see your sides point. Did you see in Detroit this weekend a black guy shot 11 people killing 1. Not only are black people not up in arms and there is no talk of charging the guy with a hate crime...Not only that, none of the 400 people are even willing to talk to police. I thought black lives matter? I guess only if they are taken by a white man do black people even care when blacks are murdered. If its at the hands of another black, well that's alright.

And why should that black guy get any less time in jail than this guy in SC? Other than he only killed 1 person and the person he killed was probably in a rival gang. In other words, he didn't kill an innocent person. But what about the 10 people who got shot? They were innocent. And what about the 400 witnesses? They are not innocent IMO. They are accomplices to murder. If I were a cop I would never worry about the people in that neighborhood. Someone got shot and it's past dark? We will send someone out in the morning to clean up the mess.

Oh, and to flip back to my liberal position. You white racists are not only responsible for the white shooter, you are the reason why black society is the way it is. It wasn't like one day you made slavery illegal and the next you were hiring blacks, letting them live in your neighborhoods and go to your schools. It isn't like the day after slavery things were all better for black people. Black society today is the result of us treating them like 2nd class citizens. Hell, 3rd class citizens. And instead of putting jobs in the hood we put them in Mexico, China and India.

We could solve this problem in a generation if you whites would stop being such racists.

we whites conservatives have nothing to do with the current state of black society.

other than the blame for Free TRade sending jobs to china, i will give you that one.

we can't even discuss any of the issues of black america without getting dogpiled.

the one thing I would disagree with you on is that white conservatives have nothing to do with the current state of Black society? are you unaware of the subject like white privilege? GOP policies are anti middle class and poor and a lot of those poor people are black ie GOP policies are racist if they hurt the majority of a certain race. But I think GOP policies hurt poor and middle class people too. To them we're all niggas. and there are plenty of rich gay and black Republicans. the only thing that matters in the GOP is money they just use wedge issues to divide us.

unless you are suggesting that the GOP is the best party for everyone? for the poor, middle class and Rich? Really? So this should be a one party country?

That is some seriously deluded nonsense right there.

What GOP policy in any way injured or otherwise infringes upon the rights of black people, SPECIFICALLY?

the right to a fair wage

 

[2aguy]

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

That was a democrat flag put up by democrat governor Fritz Hollings.......you can lie and lie all day long...but the truth is coming out about the real racists...the democrats......

I guess this is where I need a link from you to prove it was a democratic symbol and not a racist one.

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

That was a democrat flag put up by democrat governor Fritz Hollings.......you can lie and lie all day long...but the truth is coming out about the real racists...the democrats......

I guess this is where I need a link from you to prove it was a democratic symbol and not a racist one.

Well...it was a battle flag of South Carolina.....the governors of South Carolina before and during the Civil War were all democrats.......all of them...when the military units of that state fought to keep slavery...

I Don't think any republicans fought under that flag....

List of Governors of South Carolina - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[2aguy]

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

No....only Strom Thurmond, and he renounced his old ways when Nixon confronted him about it.....j. william fulbright...bill clinton's good friend, ( bill clinton the violent sexual predator) was still a democrat ....dittos orvaul faubus who clinton had at his inauguration....and all the rest of the old school democrat racists....like robert byrd, the kleagle in the kkk......

Only Strom Thurmond? You idiot. The entire south went to the Reps. Are you really that stupid about history?

Really....have you read about that election...Nixon won e new south the democrats the old racist south........

 

[2aguy]

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

No....only Strom Thurmond, and he renounced his old ways when Nixon confronted him about it.....j. william fulbright...bill clinton's good friend, ( bill clinton the violent sexual predator) was still a democrat ....dittos orvaul faubus who clinton had at his inauguration....and all the rest of the old school democrat racists....like robert byrd, the kleagle in the kkk......

Only Strom Thurmond? You idiot. The entire south went to the Reps. Are you really that stupid about history?

The Southern Strategy Myth and the Lost Majority RedState

 

[Asclepias]

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

No....only Strom Thurmond, and he renounced his old ways when Nixon confronted him about it.....j. william fulbright...bill clinton's good friend, ( bill clinton the violent sexual predator) was still a democrat ....dittos orvaul faubus who clinton had at his inauguration....and all the rest of the old school democrat racists....like robert byrd, the kleagle in the kkk......

Only Strom Thurmond? You idiot. The entire south went to the Reps. Are you really that stupid about history?

The Southern Strategy Myth and the Lost Majority RedState

redstate.com? Seriously? You and I both know thats not a credible link but good try.

I didnt read your link because I already know how the southern voting population went from supporting the Dems to the Reps. To top it of two of your GOP chairmen admitted to the dreaded "Southern Strategy".

 

[ChrisL]

I saw the people of Charleston on the news earlier tonight, and it was quite nice the way they seem to have come together as a community.

 

[2aguy]

and more on the myth of the southern strategy...

Quoting from an actual work on the myth of the southern strategy...

The myth of a GOP Southern strategy Chicago

These Republican gains came not from the most rural and “Deep South” regions, but rather from the newer cities and suburbs. If the new southern Republican voters were white racists, one would have expected that Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia would have been the first to turn. Instead, as Gerard Alexander notes in “The Myth of the Racist Republicans,” the turn toward the GOP began in Virginia, North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee and Florida. Eisenhower did best in the peripheral states. Alexander concludes: “(T)he GOP’s southern electorate was not rural, nativist, less educated, afraid of change, or concentrated in the . . . Deep South. It was disproportionately suburban, middle class, educated, young, non-native southern, and concentrated in the growth points that were the least ‘Southern’ parts of the south.”

 

[2aguy]

I saw the people of Charleston on the news earlier tonight, and it was quite nice the way they seem to have come together as a community.

don't worry...the Borg queen Obama will have sent the signal to the Borg drones....they will converge on Charleston to agitate and initiate violence.....

 

[2aguy]

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

No....only Strom Thurmond, and he renounced his old ways when Nixon confronted him about it.....j. william fulbright...bill clinton's good friend, ( bill clinton the violent sexual predator) was still a democrat ....dittos orvaul faubus who clinton had at his inauguration....and all the rest of the old school democrat racists....like robert byrd, the kleagle in the kkk......

Only Strom Thurmond? You idiot. The entire south went to the Reps. Are you really that stupid about history?

The Southern Strategy Myth and the Lost Majority RedState

redstate.com? Seriously? You and I both know thats not a credible link but good try.

I didnt read your link because I already know how the southern voting population went from supporting the Dems to the Reps. To top it of two of your GOP chairmen admitted to the dreaded "Southern Strategy".

You don't know anything...if you did you wouldn't' be a lefty......

 

[Asclepias]

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

No....only Strom Thurmond, and he renounced his old ways when Nixon confronted him about it.....j. william fulbright...bill clinton's good friend, ( bill clinton the violent sexual predator) was still a democrat ....dittos orvaul faubus who clinton had at his inauguration....and all the rest of the old school democrat racists....like robert byrd, the kleagle in the kkk......

Only Strom Thurmond? You idiot. The entire south went to the Reps. Are you really that stupid about history?

The Southern Strategy Myth and the Lost Majority RedState

redstate.com? Seriously? You and I both know thats not a credible link but good try.

I didnt read your link because I already know how the southern voting population went from supporting the Dems to the Reps. To top it of two of your GOP chairmen admitted to the dreaded "Southern Strategy".

You don't know anything...if you did you wouldn't' be a lefty......

I know youre full of shit. I am a lefty.

 

[ChrisL]

I saw the people of Charleston on the news earlier tonight, and it was quite nice the way they seem to have come together as a community.

don't worry...the Borg queen Obama will have sent the signal to the Borg drones....they will converge on Charleston to agitate and initiate violence.....

I hope you're wrong because it's nice to see that for a change.

 

[2aguy]

I saw the people of Charleston on the news earlier tonight, and it was quite nice the way they seem to have come together as a community.

don't worry...the Borg queen Obama will have sent the signal to the Borg drones....they will converge on Charleston to agitate and initiate violence.....

I hope you're wrong because it's nice to see that for a change.

but the democrats can't have whites and blacks living together in peace....it defeats them in elections...

 

[Asclepias]

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

No....only Strom Thurmond, and he renounced his old ways when Nixon confronted him about it.....j. william fulbright...bill clinton's good friend, ( bill clinton the violent sexual predator) was still a democrat ....dittos orvaul faubus who clinton had at his inauguration....and all the rest of the old school democrat racists....like robert byrd, the kleagle in the kkk......

Only Strom Thurmond? You idiot. The entire south went to the Reps. Are you really that stupid about history?

Really....have you read about that election...Nixon won e new south the democrats the old racist south........

Not only did I read about the election where Wallace with a purely racist platform won most of those southern states but I followed all the elections afterwards where all the racists shifted to the republican party after blantant racism became uncool and political suicide. Sorry dude.

 

[ChrisL]

I saw the people of Charleston on the news earlier tonight, and it was quite nice the way they seem to have come together as a community.

don't worry...the Borg queen Obama will have sent the signal to the Borg drones....they will converge on Charleston to agitate and initiate violence.....

I hope you're wrong because it's nice to see that for a change.

but the democrats can't have whites and blacks living together in peace....it defeats them in elections...

Well, anyway, I just wanted to make note of that.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Those victims families show all you liberals what true Christianity is.
I'm not a believer but God bless all of them

Yes, that's when your ilk likes blacks to be, simple, meek, mild and forgiving. Whenever we've had enough of the abuse and stand our ground, we suddenly are a danger to society, e.g. Malcolm X.

*SMH*

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

Awe somebody's a little salty.

Bite me

 

[JoeB131]

Again moron......please explain how background checks would have stopped the church shooting....please....tell us.......since either the dad bought the gun for the kid....thereby cancelling out any background check, the current federal check or any new "universal background check".....or the kid bought the gun with his own money because his pending felony wasn't in the system yet...

So it wasn't a universal background check. It was an inadequate background check that didn't cover family members or current charges.

Please...explain the mechanics of how background checks...which were done....would have stopped the church shooting....

Here's the mechanics I'd use. You sell the gun used in a mass shooting, you go to jail. Period.

Do not pass Go, do not collect 200 dollars.

 

[sealybobo]

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

That was a democrat flag put up by democrat governor Fritz Hollings.......you can lie and lie all day long...but the truth is coming out about the real racists...the democrats......

I guess this is where I need a link from you to prove it was a democratic symbol and not a racist one.

Ernest Hollings was last a Governor in 1963...52 years ago

And he is the one who put the racist, democrat slave owner flag up.......right?

That was the racist conservative flag. Maybe you didnt get the admission by the GOP all the racists ran to their party.

That was a democrat flag put up by democrat governor Fritz Hollings.......you can lie and lie all day long...but the truth is coming out about the real racists...the democrats......

I guess this is where I need a link from you to prove it was a democratic symbol and not a racist one.

Well...it was a battle flag of South Carolina.....the governors of South Carolina before and during the Civil War were all democrats.......all of them...when the military units of that state fought to keep slavery...

I Don't think any republicans fought under that flag....

List of Governors of South Carolina - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

you need to realize Republicans or Democrats back then and vice a versa

 

[Correll]

why is some murders different than any other? they are all done out of hate

I thought we were all Equal under the Law

this is dangerous to say some people are more special than others.

I'm starting to see your sides point. Did you see in Detroit this weekend a black guy shot 11 people killing 1. Not only are black people not up in arms and there is no talk of charging the guy with a hate crime...Not only that, none of the 400 people are even willing to talk to police. I thought black lives matter? I guess only if they are taken by a white man do black people even care when blacks are murdered. If its at the hands of another black, well that's alright.

And why should that black guy get any less time in jail than this guy in SC? Other than he only killed 1 person and the person he killed was probably in a rival gang. In other words, he didn't kill an innocent person. But what about the 10 people who got shot? They were innocent. And what about the 400 witnesses? They are not innocent IMO. They are accomplices to murder. If I were a cop I would never worry about the people in that neighborhood. Someone got shot and it's past dark? We will send someone out in the morning to clean up the mess.

Oh, and to flip back to my liberal position. You white racists are not only responsible for the white shooter, you are the reason why black society is the way it is. It wasn't like one day you made slavery illegal and the next you were hiring blacks, letting them live in your neighborhoods and go to your schools. It isn't like the day after slavery things were all better for black people. Black society today is the result of us treating them like 2nd class citizens. Hell, 3rd class citizens. And instead of putting jobs in the hood we put them in Mexico, China and India.

We could solve this problem in a generation if you whites would stop being such racists.

we whites conservatives have nothing to do with the current state of black society.

other than the blame for Free TRade sending jobs to china, i will give you that one.

we can't even discuss any of the issues of black america without getting dogpiled.

You get "dogpiled"?

Maybe thats on you. I never get dogpiled when I discuss the issues of black America.

maybe it's not.

i accept primary blame for the impact of Free Trade for the gop and conservatives.

other than that, lib social policies are what is driving the dysfunction in the black community.


any discussion of this reality gets us "dogpiled" as i said.


you are part of the mob, not the target of the mob.

Ahhhh. You are one of those people who think ******* are lazy and shiftless because liberals give them free stuff in return for votes. Gotcha. You get dog piled for being a retard.

and you just demonstrated the type of dishonest Race Card demagoguery i was referring to.

you post is nothing but lies, and it is completely typical of the response if we cons even attempt to slightly reference the real issues of the black community.

and thus, we have no responsibility for the issues of the black community today.

other than the results of Free Trade, as I said.

and you can fuck off you lying asshole.

 

[Correll]

South Carolina governor finally calls for Confederate flag to come down

dumb ass. you can't appease a mob.

 

[Correll]

1. the one white i recommended had seniority and was extremely knowledgeable about the job. the other had a degree related to the field. instead they hired someone who i told them was not suited to the job because they wanted more blacks in management. that was wrong and the fact that other wrongs exist in the world does not change that.

2. logical fallacy of appeal to ridicule.

Because your point is ridiculous.

You said that person wasn't qualified, and I'll be you spent the whole time he was there sandbagging him.

she actually, and no i did not.

she just did not have the maturity needed to handle being middle management. and that position was a pressure cooker.

as was demonstrated by the fact that she got fired within a couple of months.

upper management disregarded qualified white people to look for black candidates.

and why do you think that claim is ridiculous?

there are laws in place that put companies and organizations are risk of being sued if their is even an possible appearance of discrimination, and with the number of lib judges who believe in disparate impact, the onus of proof is on the company.