BREAKING: CNN admit Paul Manafort was wiretapped

[iceberg]

take Crooked Obama to jail. lock him up!

US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman - CNNPolitics

Remember those days when you called liberals a bunch of terrorist sympathizers because they did not like the shaky legal grounds that made the FISA courts the final say on the legality of any given surveillance? This is entirely legal because FISA said so. Don't like it? We told you so years ago when all you could do is kiss Bush ass.

Is this what you are talking about? Notice that the F stands for foreign.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("FISA" Pub.L. 95–511, 92 Stat. 1783, 50 U.S.C. ch.

I will explain with a hypothetical example: Suppose our NSA is conducting electronic surveillance on N Korea. They are wiretapping Korea and this American guy keeps popping up on intercepts talking to Korean bigwigs. Might want to find out who else he is talking to so they wiretap him in accordance with the law in case they ever have to prosecute. Seems pretty reasonable until you change N Korea to Russia and our hypothetical traitor to Mannafort. Why is that?

again - you point to the law who's already said what they did was illegal.

why do liberals keep doing that? well other than you got nothing else so hope to keep confusion alive and well i suppose.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

 

[Crixus]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

When was "Obama listening to Trump"?

 

[Crixus]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

When was "Obama listening to Trump"?

If you can read that's your problem. Maybe if you payed more attention to the news and not the enemy's you would have a clue. Read the OPs article, then read the one I posted, do a search and find it. Sick of people trying to convert libtards and rabid political dogs.

 

[easyt65]

It's a moment of political theater that could end in humiliation for Trump, with Comey expected to say that there was no wiretapping, debunking allegations that Trump has repeatedly refused to withdraw.

'Humiliation for Trump'?

Trump claimed he was being wire-tapped...and now we find out that Barry was Wire-tapping his campaign manager before, during, and after the election. Based on the evidence and history Trump is far more believable than anyone on the Left regarding claims.

EVERY accusation against Trump has been proven to be FAKE NEWS, scams, and conspiracy theory.

NONE of the claims have been backed by even a shred of evidence.

The Liberal media has had to offer retraction after retraction, had to fire employees for reporting fake news, has openly declared their bias, and has been exposed for using white supremacist web cites as 'legitimate news' with which to try to attack Trump.

The only crimes they have exposed to date are their own: illegal leaking / sharing classified, illegal unmasking, Felony Espionage...

Wire-tapping?
- We know Barry was wire-tapping Manafort before, during, and after the election

- We know Barry gave special entry into the US to Putin's #1 lawyer, over-riding his own Dept of immigration who had banned her from coming to the US. He knew about the meeting, knew where, knew when, had his DOJ wire-tap the location, and planted his own Russian Interpreter (loyal ex FBI Agt) in the room. How 'convenient' and well-timed.

- Barry was illegally spying on citizens, reporters, the media, the US Senate, and even the USSC.

- Clapper lied under oath about the spying...but once evidence was found he begged for and received a 2nd opportunity to testify under oath so he could correct his previous PERJURY to avoid prison time.

- Brennan was forced to admit his agency did the same thing....

- Barry illegally used the IRS as a weapon against Americans.....

Obama acted more like a 3rd World 'Banana Republic dictator' than he did the US President in illegally wielding power to oppress / victimize American citizens.


Barry, his administration, and snowflakes continue embarrass themselves.

 

[Crixus]

It's a moment of political theater that could end in humiliation for Trump, with Comey expected to say that there was no wiretapping, debunking allegations that Trump has repeatedly refused to withdraw.

'Humiliation for Trump'?

Trump claimed he was being wire-tapped...and now we find out that Barry was Wire-tapping his campaign manager before, during, and after the election. Based on the evidence and history Trump is far more believable than anyone on the Left regarding claims.

EVERY accusation against Trump has been proven to be FAKE NEWS, scams, and conspiracy theory.

NONE of the claims have been backed by even a shred of evidence.

The Liberal media has had to offer retraction after retraction, had to fire employees for reporting fake news, has openly declared their bias, and has been exposed for using white supremacist web cites as 'legitimate news' with which to try to attack Trump.

The only crimes they have exposed to date are their own: illegal leaking / sharing classified, illegal unmasking, Felony Espionage...

Wire-tapping?
- We know Barry was wire-tapping Manafort before, during, and after the election

- We know Barry gave special entry into the US to Putin's #1 lawyer, over-riding his own Dept of immigration who had banned her from coming to the US. He knew about the meeting, knew where, knew when, had his DOJ wire-tap the location, and planted his own Russian Interpreter (loyal ex FBI Agt) in the room. How 'convenient' and well-timed.

- Barry was illegally spying on citizens, reporters, the media, the US Senate, and even the USSC.

- Clapper lied under oath about the spying...but once evidence was found he begged for and received a 2nd opportunity to testify under oath so he could correct his previous PERJURY to avoid prison time.

- Brennan was forced to admit his agency did the same thing....

- Barry illegally used the IRS as a weapon against Americans.....

Obama acted more like a 3rd World 'Banana Republic dictator' than he did the US President in illegally wielding power to oppress / victimize American citizens.


Barry, his administration, and snowflakes continue embarrass themselves.

Yeah you got it. Notice how back then when he said that he was called paranoid and shit? Hell even I thought he was being a bit panicky but here it is coming out that Obamas people could very likely have been listening to trump over wire tap.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

When was "Obama listening to Trump"?

If you can read that's your problem. Maybe if you payed more attention to the news and not the enemy's you would have a clue. Read the OPs article, then read the one I posted, do a search and find it. Sick of people trying to convert libtards and rabid political dogs.

You can't explain your position?
Where/when has,"Obama listening to Trump" ever been established?

 

[iceberg]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

the fact that FISA says what they did was illegal you seem to bypass and never directly address.

you tell me what the role of FISA is and why their saying this was illegal is not relevant and we'll go from there. the rest of your distraction shit i'm not playing.

 

[iceberg]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

When was "Obama listening to Trump"?

this is right up there with "define "is""? or "define sex" - you're looking for latitude we both know you'd never allow a conservative, much less trump.

 

[easyt65]

Key Issues Being Ignored So Far In This Breaking News:

1. The Obama administration, so paranoid and determined to save Barry's Fascist / Dictatorial Un-Constitutional / Lawless 'Legacy', broke numerous laws in an all-out Obama administration 'war' to ensure Trump did not win the election:
- Data on Trump and his team collected through 'incidental collections' - deemed to have ZERO Intel Value and thus categorized as 'Protected Personal Classified Information' - was illegally shared with multiple Obama administration Intel agencies. since there was no Intel value in the information and thus the information was protected, there was no reason for the information to be shared...except for political gain...according to Comey testimony.

- This information was then illegally leaked.

- Susan Rice then illegally unmasked US citizens - Trump team members

- The Obama administration committed Felony Espionage against the US by taking this classified protected personal info and using it for political gain in an election

- Obama and Comey sought to acquire a fake news report filled with Russia-generated propaganda from foreign agents to use against Trump during an election...which happens to be a crime.

- Now we know Obama was spying on a US Presidential candidate's Campaign manager before, during, and after the election

- Democrats were also colluding with Ukrainians to attempt to acquire 'dirt' on Trump to use during an election...again, illegal.

** Barry and Democrats / snowflakes have accused Russians of attempting to interfere in the US Presidential election; however, Obama, his administration, and Democrats did more to effect the outcome of the election than the Russians dared to dream of doing.

2. The entire reason for Mueller and his political hit squad's existence is to investigate 'Russian Collusion'. While Barry's wire-tapping of Manafort may come as a shock to some, the bigger story being glossed over by snowflakes is CNN's report that the wire-tapping has resulted in ZERO evidence of 'Russian Collusion'. Hell, the wire taps were stopped at one point because of a complete lack of evidence of ANYTHING:

"The wiretaps concerned a possible connection to Russian involvement in the election. After the wiretaps ended last year due to a lack of evidence, they were eventually restarted. CNN did not have the exact dates that Manafort was surveilled, but said it was when he was meeting with President Donald Trump.

As of now, the evidence of any sort of Russian "encouragement" with the Trump campaign is "not conclusive."

'Not Conclusive' - In other words snowflakes / Obama / Democrats have found NOTHING, zero, zilch, nada....NO EVIDENCE to support continuing this with hunt.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

the fact that FISA says what they did was illegal you seem to bypass and never directly address.

you tell me what the role of FISA is and why their saying this was illegal is not relevant and we'll go from there. the rest of your distraction shit i'm not playing.

Yes, they simultaneously approved and disapproved of the surveillance.

As an FYI, presidents don't order surveillance.

 

[Correll]

take Crooked Obama to jail. lock him up!

US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman - CNNPolitics

Remembering when that was crazy talk?



Trump's wiretapping accusation comes to a head at Comey hearing - CNNPolitics



(CNN)The bizarre saga of President Donald Trump's claims that he was wiretapped by President Barack Obama last year reaches a dramatic climax Monday with FBI Director James Comey's testimony to the House Intelligence Committee.

It's a moment of political theater that could end in humiliation for Trump, with Comey expected to say that there was no wiretapping, debunking allegations that Trump has repeatedly refused to withdraw.

LIbs just say shit.. THey don't mean nothing by it. Other than "HATE YOU".



That's why they don't care now that Trump was proven right. Because they didn't care then.


They pretended to care, because that gave them a format for their "HATE YOU", but that is all it meant.



And that needs to be kept in mind EVERY TIME THEY OPEN THEIR VILE MOUTHS.



They will say ANYTHING, and it doesn't mean shit. Not to them, thus it should not to anyone else.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

When was "Obama listening to Trump"?

this is right up there with "define "is""? or "define sex" - you're looking for latitude we both know you'd never allow a conservative, much less trump.

No, it's a simple question. It was your assertion. You can't explain it?

 

[bodecea]

So CNN was lying all along. Trump was not lying when he stated that his campaign was wiretapped, and Trump was right when he called CNN "Fake news".

Stop lying. Trump said that Obama illegally wiretapped his tower, not FBI with warrant in hand which is the reality.

It was Obama's FBI. Are you saying Obama couldn't control his own government?

When everything is said and done and all the shit filters down to Obama, I'm going to enjoy seeing him frog-marched off to prison for the rest of his miserable life.

Any day now...any day now...any day now...any day now...

 

[Doc1]

take Crooked Obama to jail. lock him up!

US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman - CNNPolitics

Remember those days when you called liberals a bunch of terrorist sympathizers because they did not like the shaky legal grounds that made the FISA courts the final say on the legality of any given surveillance? This is entirely legal because FISA said so. Don't like it? We told you so years ago when all you could do is kiss Bush ass.

First, FISA is a Carter creation. Second, it is not independent, it must be initiated by the administration. Dumbass.

By the Justice Department and the FBI, not the administration.

They wok for the Administration. They don't even have to get a warrant, they surveil for year without one.

 

[iceberg]

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March

Two words. Probable cause.

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

the fact that FISA says what they did was illegal you seem to bypass and never directly address.

you tell me what the role of FISA is and why their saying this was illegal is not relevant and we'll go from there. the rest of your distraction shit i'm not playing.

Yes, they simultaneously approved and disapproved of the surveillance.

As an FYI, presidents don't order surveillance.

so you still won't address it.

it was approved due to a fake dossier they used to get the permission.

now - keep calling me crazy and refusing to simply do 2 things:

1) what is the role of FISA
2) why is their saying "illegal" not relevant?

nothing else i give a shit about because you won't answer core questions to this issue, just dance.

 

[iceberg]

bullshit.

so far russia has turned up not a damn thing and the last hope is $100k on facebook.

i've spend about $1k on facebook advertising over the years, it's worthless. as for "fake stories" - it's the rage and all are doing it. to get mad at the other side is stupid and won't bring it to an end. facebook should screen shit more carefully because i also get tired of all the liberal crap they throw down.

FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

tell FISA it's legal. their job to know. so unless you can whip out better credentials than the people who are in charge of this shit, shit is *all* you got.

this "probable cause" thing you point to is also the fake dossier they put together to get it. which is also illegal and will get them in deeper shit. so unless you got something else, you're lookin the fool dancing for your boy.

how long ago did judge napalitano say this all happened? oh yea, you laughed then and now you're defensive. feel like you're going the wrong way?

Probable cause is required for both FISA and domestic surveilance. The fact that surveillance happened and has been used in the investigation is proof of it's legality. No prosecutor would build a case on questionable evidence. You'd do well to believe that not only was the surveillance justified and legal but it yeilded substance used to further the investigation.

You sure about that? Say, who ran the investigation back when the wire tapping happened? See if Russo was such an issue then the fact that Obama was listening to trump and produced nothings so far is mighty odd. You saying the Bammer guys were on to trump back then before Muller?

When was "Obama listening to Trump"?

this is right up there with "define "is""? or "define sex" - you're looking for latitude we both know you'd never allow a conservative, much less trump.

No, it's a simple question. It was your assertion. You can't explain it?

simple questions are:

1) what is FISA
2) why is their claim if "illegal" not relevant to you?

so if obama is totally innocent in this, great. he didn't know. then he's just a dumbass for not keeping his own people under control and not being aware of the activities they do in his admin/name.

now, care to simply answer the questions of FISA and why they are not relevant in this?

 

[easyt65]

You can't explain your position?
Where/when has,"Obama listening to Trump" ever been established?

Obama and his administration's actions make the case.

Obama has a past history of continually violating the Constitution and Rule of law as well as he and his Cabinet members lying their assess off:

- Illegally spied on Americans, reporters, the media, the US Senate, and the USSC
- Illegally used the IRS as a weapon against citizens
- His 1st US AG became the 1st US AG / Presidential Cabinet member to be CENSURED for his perjury
- Clapper perjured himself about illegal spying on US citizens but was given a 2nd chance to tell the truth before Congress to avoid Perjury Charges
- IRS chief Koskinen was caught Perjuring himself before Congress but was also protected by Barry
- Brennan was caught perjuring himself - protected by Barry
- Comey perjured himself and may be brought before Congress to testify again
- Comey testified about lynch's (Obama's 2nd criminal US AGY Obstruction
- Obama has lied just about everything: the ACA, Not knowing about Hillary's server until learning about it in the news, 'the video', the IRS targeting, etc...

Why would Barry worry about FISA and legit warrants when he had already been illegally spying on Americans, the media, the US Senate, the USSC, etc? To check the boxes, maybe, but would certainly not let a little thing like the law or the Constitution stand in the way of what he wanted...as he repeatedly proved.

So many illegal activities have been exposed and so many lies and cover-ups that Obama and his administration has no more credibility, as more and more of his crimes keep getting exposed.

 

[easyt65]

2) why is their claim if "illegal" not relevant to you?

The question of legality does not apply to Democrats / Obama .. according to Obama, Democrats, and snowflakes.