BREAKING: CNN admit Paul Manafort was wiretapped

[easyt65]

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

'INFERRED'? Comey declared she had violated numerous laws.

'INNOCENT'?
-- The law is clear - Hillary Clinton was legally obligated to turn over EVERY official document and e-mail - the FBI has now released over 15,000 Hillary documents that were required by law to turn those in. She did not. That's 15,000+ crimes / criminal charges that could have / should have been filed. She broke the law.

-- The law is clear - it is ILLEGAL to give anyone who does not have a security clearance or a sufficient security clearance access to classified information - no exceptions. Hillary allowed her MAID access to classified information so she could print out documents for her...she let an IT company who did not have a TS Clearance store and work on her TS/SCI material-containing server in their UN-secured office BATHROOM...she allowed her lawyers, who did not have TS/SCI clearances, download and carry around her TS/SCI clearance level classified information. She Broke The law.

- The Law regarding the officially approved methods of destroying classified information are CLEAR. Hillary and her team violated those laws / regulations by personally destroying (or attempting to) her classified information and devices. She broke the law.

- Comey declared she would not recommend her for indictment because she had no idea what the hell she was doing.
-- The government has forms signed by Hillary acknowledging the security training and refresher training she received and that she fully understood all of it.
-- The government has e-mails sent out by then Sect of State Clinton telling her people NOT to do what she did, warning them of how they could be found guilty of the crimes she committed.
** Comey was either incompetent in giving this declaration or intentionally false.


These laws do not say these things are illegal ONLY if you get caught doing them and / or ONLY if someone actually presses charges. NO - laws state if you do 'THIS' you are breaking the law.

Snowflakes' continued BS claim that Comey declared Hillary to be 'innocent' - which he did not - and / or Hillary is 'innocent' because Obama / Lynch / Comey protected her from indictment / prosecution is complete Intellectual Dishonesty, denial of reality, and just plain BS!

 

[bodecea]

The president does not just call up Justice and tell them to break the law on his behalf, nor is any conceivable AG going to cooperate with such a clearly illegal order.

Which is while Obama, Lynch, and all the rest of them belong in prison for life.

We keep hearing that will happen any day now...any day now...any day now...

Water is wet
Snow is cold
Democrats are protected from indictment / criminal charges for their crimes...

But...but...but...isn't it true that indictments are easy to get? That a grand jury will indict a "ham sandwich"? Why can't trumpanzees even get to the indictment point with Hillary? Need more investigations?

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

But...but...but....it's do easy to indict someone....you can indict a ham sandwich!

 

[MindWars]

The Obama regime wiretapped opposition candidate Donald Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort during and after the 2016 election, according to a report from CNN.
Watergate 2.0: Obama Regime Wiretapped Trump Campaign Chair During And After Election


Coverup Of Trump Wiretapping Blows Up In CNN / NYT Face! Trump 100% Correct
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Oh imagine that the liar and chief who did nothing but lie his entire Presidency pos bastard. The looks of this a.h. makes half the American people sick to their stomach g.d. traitor.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Which is while Obama, Lynch, and all the rest of them belong in prison for life.

We keep hearing that will happen any day now...any day now...any day now...

Water is wet
Snow is cold
Democrats are protected from indictment / criminal charges for their crimes...

But...but...but...isn't it true that indictments are easy to get? That a grand jury will indict a "ham sandwich"? Why can't trumpanzees even get to the indictment point with Hillary? Need more investigations?

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

and what, 10 months later still nothing on RUSSIA????

maybe the top dogs just make a bunch of shit up to keep us busy saying 1 side is right over the other.

10 months isn't a long time, the R's spent years attacking Bill and Hillary Clinton, in fact they and their fellow travelers continue to this day and not one conviction and not one indictment to show for the Millions of tax dollars spent on investigations.

ABSCAM took over two years, and ended up convicting half a dozen Members of the House of Reps and one senator along with other local and state officials. Be patient, if you really care to know if Russia colluded with US Citizens to impact our election, real patriots want to know who, and see them punished. Don't you?

 

[danielpalos]

It's shocking that a guy working as an lobbyist for a for govt, and who illegally failed to register as a lobbyist, was wiretapped by a FISA court. I am simply outraged. Outraged. I mean it's not like he was a keynay muslim who stole the presidency.

Yes, foreign agents must register.

Do they have Arms as well; a registry is a good thing, right, right wingers.

 

[easyt65]

You DO know that Manafort being wiretapped is not the same as trump being wiretapped, right?

It's the 'Definition of 'Is'' defense, darlin'.

Manafort was Trump's Campaign manager, responsible for his entire election campaign - every aspect of it. There is no way that the head of the FBI and President did NOT know that by wire-tapping Manafort they would also be collecting / listening in on Trump. Do snowflakes REALLY believe they did not believe Trump would be talking to his campaign manager during the election?

When Comey was asked if the FBI was wire-tapping Trump's Campaign Manager it seriously never occurred to him to mention, "Oh by the way, we ARE wire-tapping Trump's / the GOP's Presidential Candidate's Campaign manager during an election and ARE incidentally listening in on Trump's conversations with his Campaign Manager"?! OF COURSE HE DID, but he sure as hell wasn't going to OFFER that information up.

By wire-tapping Manafort Obama, the DNC President, was going to hear EVERYTHING about Trump's campaign - strategy, plans, tactics, messaging, etc... How convenient for a President who was afraid his entire 'Legacy' was going to be wiped away if Trump won.

There was such a lack of evidence of any wrong-doing that it is reported the wire-tapping of Manafort was cancelled.....NOTHING FOUND. Despite no criminal information found wire-tapping Manafort still had a very significant usefulness - spying on the Trump campaign. That's about the ONLY reason to re-start it after no evidence regarding the criminal aspect was found. The article even mentions part of the reason for spying was the BS 'Russia-Trump Collusion' scam that had its reported origination in the fake news report filled with Russia-generated propaganda Obama and Comey tried to acquire from foreign agents to use against Trump in the campaign.

Obama and Comey already PROVE they were seeking dirt to use against Trump in the campaign at the time they were wire-tapping Trump's campaign manager. This has all the makings of 'Nixon On Steroids'!

Wire-tapping Trump's Campaign Manager...Attempting to acquire a fake news report filled with Russia-generated propaganda from foreign agents...'Incidental collection' of information deemed to have NO foreign Intel value and is thus classified as 'Protected Personal CLASSIFIED Information' illegally passed around to numerous Intel Agencies / Illegally leaked, Illegal Unmasking of US citizens, Felony espionage by leaking protected Classified information for political benefit during an election.....

Barry and his administration were up to their asses in illegal activity in an attempt to stop / take down Trump.

 

[Wry Catcher]

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

'INFERRED'? Comey declared she had violated numerous laws.

'INNOCENT'?
-- The law is clear - Hillary Clinton was legally obligated to turn over EVERY official document and e-mail - the FBI has now released over 15,000 Hillary documents that were required by law to turn those in. She did not. That's 15,000+ crimes / criminal charges that could have / should have been filed. She broke the law.

-- The law is clear - it is ILLEGAL to give anyone who does not have a security clearance or a sufficient security clearance access to classified information - no exceptions. Hillary allowed her MAID access to classified information so she could print out documents for her...she let an IT company who did not have a TS Clearance store and work on her TS/SCI material-containing server in their UN-secured office BATHROOM...she allowed her lawyers, who did not have TS/SCI clearances, download and carry around her TS/SCI clearance level classified information. She Broke The law.

- The Law regarding the officially approved methods of destroying classified information are CLEAR. Hillary and her team violated those laws / regulations by personally destroying (or attempting to) her classified information and devices. She broke the law.

- Comey declared she would not recommend her for indictment because she had no idea what the hell she was doing.
-- The government has forms signed by Hillary acknowledging the security training and refresher training she received and that she fully understood all of it.
-- The government has e-mails sent out by then Sect of State Clinton telling her people NOT to do what she did, warning them of how they could be found guilty of the crimes she committed.
** Comey was either incompetent in giving this declaration or intentionally false.


These laws do not say these things are illegal ONLY if you get caught doing them and / or ONLY if someone actually presses charges. NO - laws state if you do 'THIS' you are breaking the law.

Snowflakes' continued BS claim that Comey declared Hillary to be 'innocent' - which he did not - and / or Hillary is 'innocent' because Obama / Lynch / Comey protected her from indictment / prosecution is complete Intellectual Dishonesty, denial of reality, and just plain BS!

You cannot read and comprehend, your biases interfere your ability to think. Your first sentence is a lie; Comey did not find Mens Rea but criticized her actions. Just for you, since your ignorance combined with you biases makes your posts incredulous, I'll try to educate you:

"Most crimes require what attorneys refer to as "mens rea," which is simply Latin for a "guilty mind." In other words, what a defendant was thinking and what the defendant intended when the crime was committed. Mens rea allows the criminal justice system to differentiate between someone who did not mean to commit a crime and someone who intentionally set out to commit a crime."

Mens Rea - A Defendant's Mental State - FindLaw

 

[danielpalos]

Update!

Trump Vindicated along with Judge Napolitano.

CNN and Fox News Humiliated.

Dude, they got investigated for "unPATRIOTic, behavior".

 

[danielpalos]

take Crooked Obama to jail. lock him up!

US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman - CNNPolitics

Remembering when that was crazy talk?



Trump's wiretapping accusation comes to a head at Comey hearing - CNNPolitics



(CNN)The bizarre saga of President Donald Trump's claims that he was wiretapped by President Barack Obama last year reaches a dramatic climax Monday with FBI Director James Comey's testimony to the House Intelligence Committee.

It's a moment of political theater that could end in humiliation for Trump, with Comey expected to say that there was no wiretapping, debunking allegations that Trump has repeatedly refused to withdraw.

LIbs just say shit.. THey don't mean nothing by it. Other than "HATE YOU".



That's why they don't care now that Trump was proven right. Because they didn't care then.


They pretended to care, because that gave them a format for their "HATE YOU", but that is all it meant.



And that needs to be kept in mind EVERY TIME THEY OPEN THEIR VILE MOUTHS.



They will say ANYTHING, and it doesn't mean shit. Not to them, thus it should not to anyone else.

So...this is really all about "libs" and not Manafort?

Crixus made a comment about how the wiretapping was considered "crazy talk".


My post was in response to that.


WHich you knew, but by playing dumb you got to make a negative spun post, without actually addressing anything I said.


Were you one of the libs that considered the accusation of wire tapping to be "crazy talk" and if so, would you like to apologize to Trump and all Trump supporters for shit you said then, now that you know you were wrong?

You DO know that Manafort being wiretapped is not the same as trump being wiretapped, right?

Perceived collusion and conspiracy with foreign governments is of national interest to any Government.

 

[whitehall]

The only way to legally monitor a private citizen's private conversation is by court order but listen to CNN's rhetoric. CNN takes a page from Stalin and claims that Manafort was monitored under "secret orders". What the hell does "secret orders" entail? If the Obama regime illegally wiretapped a private citizen somebody needs to go to jail before the statute of limitations expires.

 

[danielpalos]

'VINDICATED'

"U.S. investigators wiretapped President Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to a report by CNN that vindicates the president’s earlier claims, which were mocked as a conspiracy theory.

Trump’s claim, and Breitbart News’s report, were mocked as a conspiracy theory, and other news outlets reported that there was no basis to the claims.

CNN itself at the time called the idea that Trump was wiretapped “incendiary.”

But a report Monday evening said U.S. investigators obtained a surveillance warrant on Manafort from a secret court and had monitored him before and after the election, including a “period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.”

"The new warrant was “part of the FBI’s efforts to investigate ties between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives,” according to the report."

Yes, the NON-existent 'Trump-Russian Collusion'...which gave the President an 'excellent' reason to wire-tap the GOP presidential Candidate's Campaign Manager and listen in on his and Trump's tactics, plans, and conversations before and during the election.



"The Justice Department and the FBI denied that Trump was being wiretapped.
Comey later in March disputed Trump’s claims — in testimony that lawmakers could now find misleading."

Comey uses the Clinton 'Definition of IS' tactic here - TRUMP was not being wire-tapped...just his Campaign manager during a Presidential Campaign...and, of course, by tapping Manafort they were going to be listening in on Trump at times as well.

(* Bill Clinton was found guilty of Contempt of Court for giving mis-leading testimony. Comey does the same thing here.)


Trump Vindicated: Shock Report Says Obama Government Wiretapped Trump Campaign

They were wiretapped for unPATRIOTic Activities.

 

[Peach]

US government taped BEFORE and after, not during; he was a foreign agent. We do that to foreign agents.

 

[danielpalos]

The only way to legally monitor a private citizen's private conversation is by court order but listen to CNN's rhetoric. CNN takes a page from Stalin and claims that Manafort was monitored under "secret orders". What the hell does "secret orders" entail? If the Obama regime illegally wiretapped a private citizen somebody needs to go to jail before the statute of limitations expires.

Should we blame the right wing, for not being PATRIOTic, enough in their Acts?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Yes, they simultaneously approved and disapproved of the surveillance.

As an FYI, presidents don't order surveillance.

so you still won't address it.

it was approved due to a fake dossier they used to get the permission.

now - keep calling me crazy and refusing to simply do 2 things:

1) what is the role of FISA
2) why is their saying "illegal" not relevant?

nothing else i give a shit about because you won't answer core questions to this issue, just dance.

Your entire premise is flawed.

again - i'm not sure what part of "i'm not playing your sideshow bob bullshit distractions" your mind can't comprehend but if you can't understand a simple question, this complex shit is well beyond you.

this is not MY premise for you to gloat over.
this is not MY call to say it's illegal.
you are not arguing with *me* at this point but FISA.

FISA says this was illegal.

1) what is the role of FISA
2) what is their statement not relevant
3) my "premise" has zero issue on the above 2. either answer those 2 (finally) or just admit you don't know.

the rest of us know you don't know, but it would be refreshing for you to do 1 of 2 things at this point.

1) answer a direct question
2) admit you don't know.

you can war and peace my wall again but unless it answers the 2 questions you're taking the life from your keyboard w/o a good reason.

You can stomp your feet all you'd like. It doesn't mean your point is either clear or owed a serious response.
I know what the role of FISA is but it's not clear you do with the arguments you make. Hence the flawed premise.
You rely on Tyler Durden to get your information and then extrapolate to make claims that aren't even made in your link.
Manafort's name is not mentioned even once, it does not cover the time frame in which Manafort first came under surveillance and in fact, doesn't mention anyone associated with Trump at all. So really there is nothing you presented that was shown to be relevant to the discussion at all.

so again you dance like someone shoved a quarter up your ass and tweaked a nipple.

the *only* thing i'm relying on is what FISA is, their role, and their view on it. all this sideshow shit is just you refusing to address the core.

who the fuck is tyler durden?
i don't care about manfort, i'm way up the line showing it doesn't matter what obama-drones say when FISA has said "illegal".

take it up with FISA.

who the fuck is tyler durden?

Really?
It's the link YOU provided claiming FISA "illegality", dumbass.
FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

i don't care about manfort,

That's the subject of the thread.


I've addressed your link and showed your claim to be baseless.

 

[easyt65]

10 months isn't a long time, the R's spent years attacking Bill and Hillary Clinton, in fact they and their fellow travelers continue to this day and not one conviction and not one indictment to show for the Millions of tax dollars spent on investigations.

Intellectual dishonesty. Being protected from indictment and prosecution by the President who owns the DOJ, FBI, CIA, DHS, etc is not the same as 'not finding anything'.

When the democrats took over a near super-majority control of the House and Senate they raced to investigate Bush - thousands of hours, hundreds of Congressional meetings, and millions of dollars spent on the investigation. As with the accusations of Trump they produced no evidence to support their political witch hunt. To face the mounting negative publicity and criticism for their crusade the democrats did not stop until they had their 'justification' for it all - They prosecuted Scooter Libby on charges of Perjury on something completely un-related to Bush.

Consider how Obama's US AG, Eric Holder, became THE FIRST US AG / FIRST PRESIDENTIAL CABINET MEMBER TO EVER BE CENSURED...FOR PERJURY, no less...the same exact crime for which the Democrats PROSECUTED Libby. Obama and his administration spared Holder of the same fate.
- Consider Clapper was caught committing Perjury under oath before Congress but instead of being charged and prosecuted for HIS Perjury he was allowed to re-testify and change his testimony to avoid the same fate the Democrats gave Libby.

- Consider Koskinen was caught dead-to-rights lying under oath. Gowdy re-played a video of his earlier testimony - to his face as he sat before Congress, just having lied (given conflicting testimony). Impeachment, rather than charges of Perjury began for Koskinen, but in the end he was also spared the same fate for the same crime as Democrats gave Libby.

- Brennan was also caught giving 'conflicting' testimony. Lynch has been caught in 'conflicting' testimony, as the GOP consider calling for her to testify. Comey was caught LYING about exactly when he decided to NOT recommend indictment for Hillary...and has so far been spared the same punishment as Libby for the EXACT SAME CRIME.

That is why I STILL predict that after numerous investigations, thousands of hours of investigation, millions of tax dollars wasted, and absolutely ZERO evidence to support their false accusations Mueller will not, can not afford to, walk away from all of this without a conviction...and just like in the crusade against Bush, it will result in the prosecution of some affiliated/associated Trump team member for nothing having to do with 'Russian Collusion', that it will be another ;Libby Perjury' scapegoat prosecution.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Update!

Trump Vindicated along with Judge Napolitano.

CNN and Fox News Humiliated.

Dude, they got investigated for "unPATRIOTic, behavior".

Cite the specific evidence!

 

[iceberg]

We keep hearing that will happen any day now...any day now...any day now...

Water is wet
Snow is cold
Democrats are protected from indictment / criminal charges for their crimes...

But...but...but...isn't it true that indictments are easy to get? That a grand jury will indict a "ham sandwich"? Why can't trumpanzees even get to the indictment point with Hillary? Need more investigations?

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

and what, 10 months later still nothing on RUSSIA????

maybe the top dogs just make a bunch of shit up to keep us busy saying 1 side is right over the other.

10 months isn't a long time, the R's spent years attacking Bill and Hillary Clinton, in fact they and their fellow travelers continue to this day and not one conviction and not one indictment to show for the Millions of tax dollars spent on investigations.

ABSCAM took over two years, and ended up convicting half a dozen Members of the House of Reps and one senator along with other local and state officials. Be patient, if you really care to know if Russia colluded with US Citizens to impact our election, real patriots want to know who, and see them punished. Don't you?

it is in this context.

RUSSIA was never NEVER a concern til the dems lost.

the best smoking gun you have so far is $100k spent on facebook.

now - facebook profits:
Facebook's Ad Business Rolls as Profits Top $10 Billion in 2016

$10 billion in profits.

On Wednesday, the social network released its quarterly earnings, and showed its ad revenue hit $8.6 billion during the last three months of 2016. That represented a 53% jump from the same time a year prior. For the whole year, it generated $26.9 billion in ad sales, an increase of 57% from 2015.

Mark Zuckerberg's company also is making more money, topping $10 billion in profits for the full year in 2016 for the first time, increasing 177% from 2015.

Facebook also said it now makes 84% of its money from mobile ads, up from 80% in the fourth quarter of 2015.

Daily active users rose 18% year over year to 1.23 billion people.

-0-0-0-0-0-

for reference:
10,000,000,000 - 10 billion.
100,000 - amount in question. on it's own it sounds impressive.
however this represents .00001 of their overall revenue.

400 or so accounts. out of 1.23 billion people.
getting the decimal value here requires something more than windows calculator.

you're saying that RUSSIA was able to influence an election of the greatest country in the world with $100k and 400 fake accounts.

now query on how many fake users are on facebook, you're into the millions. 8-11%, 83 million - all googlable if you choose to get curious vs. take what you're told.

so, 400 fake accounts did what 83 million can't?

and you wonder why people can't take this seriously.

.00001 of overall revenue. 400 fake accounts out of 83 million.

what motivation does facebook have to out 400 fake accounts and leave the other 82,999,9600 alone?

take out politics and how you *feel* about this and just ask yourself those simple questions.

 

[iceberg]

so you still won't address it.

it was approved due to a fake dossier they used to get the permission.

now - keep calling me crazy and refusing to simply do 2 things:

1) what is the role of FISA
2) why is their saying "illegal" not relevant?

nothing else i give a shit about because you won't answer core questions to this issue, just dance.

Your entire premise is flawed.

again - i'm not sure what part of "i'm not playing your sideshow bob bullshit distractions" your mind can't comprehend but if you can't understand a simple question, this complex shit is well beyond you.

this is not MY premise for you to gloat over.
this is not MY call to say it's illegal.
you are not arguing with *me* at this point but FISA.

FISA says this was illegal.

1) what is the role of FISA
2) what is their statement not relevant
3) my "premise" has zero issue on the above 2. either answer those 2 (finally) or just admit you don't know.

the rest of us know you don't know, but it would be refreshing for you to do 1 of 2 things at this point.

1) answer a direct question
2) admit you don't know.

you can war and peace my wall again but unless it answers the 2 questions you're taking the life from your keyboard w/o a good reason.

You can stomp your feet all you'd like. It doesn't mean your point is either clear or owed a serious response.
I know what the role of FISA is but it's not clear you do with the arguments you make. Hence the flawed premise.
You rely on Tyler Durden to get your information and then extrapolate to make claims that aren't even made in your link.
Manafort's name is not mentioned even once, it does not cover the time frame in which Manafort first came under surveillance and in fact, doesn't mention anyone associated with Trump at all. So really there is nothing you presented that was shown to be relevant to the discussion at all.

so again you dance like someone shoved a quarter up your ass and tweaked a nipple.

the *only* thing i'm relying on is what FISA is, their role, and their view on it. all this sideshow shit is just you refusing to address the core.

who the fuck is tyler durden?
i don't care about manfort, i'm way up the line showing it doesn't matter what obama-drones say when FISA has said "illegal".

take it up with FISA.

who the fuck is tyler durden?

Really?
It's the link YOU provided claiming FISA "illegality", dumbass.
FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

i don't care about manfort,

That's the subject of the thread.

I've addressed your link and showed your claim to be baseless.

i don't care about monfort cause you're arguing over what band aid to use while i'm trying to find ways to stop the problem from causing the bleeding. our focus is very different.

zerohedge used direct quotes from FISA. go bitch at them for being wrong cause i'm tired of your circular shit that proves NOTHING baseless but your own hate.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Breaking Update!


Who sought the wiretap through the FISA Court?

D'erp!

Um...the agency that conducts foreign surveillance, maybe.

 

[danielpalos]

Update!

Trump Vindicated along with Judge Napolitano.

CNN and Fox News Humiliated.

Dude, they got investigated for "unPATRIOTic, behavior".

Cite the specific evidence!

I am not on the investigation. A warrant was obtained, for a reason.