BREAKING: CNN admit Paul Manafort was wiretapped

[basquebromance]

I'm saving this forever.

 

[Synthaholic]

From the article: "including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump." CNN downplaying Trump was wiretapped.

Your reading comprehension sucks.

Manafort was wiretapped. The people he spoke to were not wiretapped. They were caught on tape while talking to someone who was being wiretapped.

Manafort did not have a Trump Tower office.

 

[toobfreak]

The Obama regime wiretapped opposition candidate Donald Trump’s campaign manager Paul Manafort during and after the 2016 election, according to a report from CNN.
Watergate 2.0: Obama Regime Wiretapped Trump Campaign Chair During And After Election
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Oh imagine that the liar and chief who did nothing but lie his entire Presidency pos bastard. The looks of this a.h. makes half the American people sick to their stomach g.d. traitor.

What's good for Nixon is good for Obama.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Your entire premise is flawed.

again - i'm not sure what part of "i'm not playing your sideshow bob bullshit distractions" your mind can't comprehend but if you can't understand a simple question, this complex shit is well beyond you.

this is not MY premise for you to gloat over.
this is not MY call to say it's illegal.
you are not arguing with *me* at this point but FISA.

FISA says this was illegal.

1) what is the role of FISA
2) what is their statement not relevant
3) my "premise" has zero issue on the above 2. either answer those 2 (finally) or just admit you don't know.

the rest of us know you don't know, but it would be refreshing for you to do 1 of 2 things at this point.

1) answer a direct question
2) admit you don't know.

you can war and peace my wall again but unless it answers the 2 questions you're taking the life from your keyboard w/o a good reason.

You can stomp your feet all you'd like. It doesn't mean your point is either clear or owed a serious response.
I know what the role of FISA is but it's not clear you do with the arguments you make. Hence the flawed premise.
You rely on Tyler Durden to get your information and then extrapolate to make claims that aren't even made in your link.
Manafort's name is not mentioned even once, it does not cover the time frame in which Manafort first came under surveillance and in fact, doesn't mention anyone associated with Trump at all. So really there is nothing you presented that was shown to be relevant to the discussion at all.

so again you dance like someone shoved a quarter up your ass and tweaked a nipple.

the *only* thing i'm relying on is what FISA is, their role, and their view on it. all this sideshow shit is just you refusing to address the core.

who the fuck is tyler durden?
i don't care about manfort, i'm way up the line showing it doesn't matter what obama-drones say when FISA has said "illegal".

take it up with FISA.

who the fuck is tyler durden?

Really?
It's the link YOU provided claiming FISA "illegality", dumbass.
FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens | Zero Hedge

i don't care about manfort,

That's the subject of the thread.

I've addressed your link and showed your claim to be baseless.

i don't care about monfort cause you're arguing over what band aid to use while i'm trying to find ways to stop the problem from causing the bleeding. our focus is very different.

zerohedge used direct quotes from FISA. go bitch at them for being wrong cause i'm tired of your circular shit that proves NOTHING baseless but your own hate.

Do you even know what your point is?

I've told you that your link does not specify in any way that any of the FISA surveillance of Trump people is a part of those findings. So then your point is what in this thread?

 

[Synthaholic]

The FBI cannot get a wiretap unless they are able to show cause to a Federal Judge. Which means they already had plenty of evidence against Manafort, dating to before 2014.

 

[basquebromance]

The entire media has been exposed as a pack of hyperpartisan liars and conspiracy theorists led by CNN and greed

 

[bendog]

Breaking Update!


Who sought the wiretap through the FISA Court?

Obama and the Panthers .. in person. And they threatened the judges with being boiled in a pot of water if the subpoena was turned down

 

[iceberg]

Do you even know what your point is?

yea, you're an idiot and i'm done.

bye.

 

[danielpalos]

I'm saving this forever.

Good thing there are no federalists in Congress.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Water is wet
Snow is cold
Democrats are protected from indictment / criminal charges for their crimes...

But...but...but...isn't it true that indictments are easy to get? That a grand jury will indict a "ham sandwich"? Why can't trumpanzees even get to the indictment point with Hillary? Need more investigations?

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

and what, 10 months later still nothing on RUSSIA????

maybe the top dogs just make a bunch of shit up to keep us busy saying 1 side is right over the other.

10 months isn't a long time, the R's spent years attacking Bill and Hillary Clinton, in fact they and their fellow travelers continue to this day and not one conviction and not one indictment to show for the Millions of tax dollars spent on investigations.

ABSCAM took over two years, and ended up convicting half a dozen Members of the House of Reps and one senator along with other local and state officials. Be patient, if you really care to know if Russia colluded with US Citizens to impact our election, real patriots want to know who, and see them punished. Don't you?

it is in this context.

RUSSIA was never NEVER a concern til the dems lost.

the best smoking gun you have so far is $100k spent on facebook.

now - facebook profits:
Facebook's Ad Business Rolls as Profits Top $10 Billion in 2016

$10 billion in profits.

On Wednesday, the social network released its quarterly earnings, and showed its ad revenue hit $8.6 billion during the last three months of 2016. That represented a 53% jump from the same time a year prior. For the whole year, it generated $26.9 billion in ad sales, an increase of 57% from 2015.

Mark Zuckerberg's company also is making more money, topping $10 billion in profits for the full year in 2016 for the first time, increasing 177% from 2015.

Facebook also said it now makes 84% of its money from mobile ads, up from 80% in the fourth quarter of 2015.

Daily active users rose 18% year over year to 1.23 billion people.

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for reference:
10,000,000,000 - 10 billion.
100,000 - amount in question. on it's own it sounds impressive.
however this represents .00001 of their overall revenue.

400 or so accounts. out of 1.23 billion people.
getting the decimal value here requires something more than windows calculator.

you're saying that RUSSIA was able to influence an election of the greatest country in the world with $100k and 400 fake accounts.

now query on how many fake users are on facebook, you're into the millions. 8-11%, 83 million - all googlable if you choose to get curious vs. take what you're told.

so, 400 fake accounts did what 83 million can't?

and you wonder why people can't take this seriously.

.00001 of overall revenue. 400 fake accounts out of 83 million.

what motivation does facebook have to out 400 fake accounts and leave the other 82,999,9600 alone?

take out politics and how you *feel* about this and just ask yourself those simple questions.

Nice effort to deflect, sadly for you it won't convince anyone but those already biased to believe your first Lie, to wit:

"RUSSIA was never NEVER a concern til the dems lost."

Four months before the election, "Since July 2016, the FBI has been investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts."

Timeline of Russia Investigation - FactCheck.org

Response?

 

[Synthaholic]

But they left the Podesta Group alone. Only targeted Manafort.

Podesta lobby group did not disclose extent of work for Ukrainian campaign advised by Paul Manafort
By Thomas Frank, CNN Investigates

Podesta lobby group did not disclose extent of work for Ukrainian campaign advised by Paul Manafort - CNNPolitics

Because Podesta did nothing wrong, nothing illegal. And in that case, Manafort probably also did nothing wrong, nothing illegal.

It's all very simple if you turn on your brain.

 

[danielpalos]

The entire media has been exposed as a pack of hyperpartisan liars and conspiracy theorists led by CNN and greed

Only in a vacuum of special pleading and right wing fantasy.

 

[iceberg]

But...but...but...isn't it true that indictments are easy to get? That a grand jury will indict a "ham sandwich"? Why can't trumpanzees even get to the indictment point with Hillary? Need more investigations?

IF HRC had committed a crime, and all of the investigations by the Republican's in Congress could not find an iota of her culpability, we must conclude Republicans are inept, or that HRC did not commit any crime and is innocent.

HRC is innocent, that must be inferred, but it does not prove that the Republican are not also inept.

and what, 10 months later still nothing on RUSSIA????

maybe the top dogs just make a bunch of shit up to keep us busy saying 1 side is right over the other.

10 months isn't a long time, the R's spent years attacking Bill and Hillary Clinton, in fact they and their fellow travelers continue to this day and not one conviction and not one indictment to show for the Millions of tax dollars spent on investigations.

ABSCAM took over two years, and ended up convicting half a dozen Members of the House of Reps and one senator along with other local and state officials. Be patient, if you really care to know if Russia colluded with US Citizens to impact our election, real patriots want to know who, and see them punished. Don't you?

it is in this context.

RUSSIA was never NEVER a concern til the dems lost.

the best smoking gun you have so far is $100k spent on facebook.

now - facebook profits:
Facebook's Ad Business Rolls as Profits Top $10 Billion in 2016

$10 billion in profits.

On Wednesday, the social network released its quarterly earnings, and showed its ad revenue hit $8.6 billion during the last three months of 2016. That represented a 53% jump from the same time a year prior. For the whole year, it generated $26.9 billion in ad sales, an increase of 57% from 2015.

Mark Zuckerberg's company also is making more money, topping $10 billion in profits for the full year in 2016 for the first time, increasing 177% from 2015.

Facebook also said it now makes 84% of its money from mobile ads, up from 80% in the fourth quarter of 2015.

Daily active users rose 18% year over year to 1.23 billion people.

-0-0-0-0-0-

for reference:
10,000,000,000 - 10 billion.
100,000 - amount in question. on it's own it sounds impressive.
however this represents .00001 of their overall revenue.

400 or so accounts. out of 1.23 billion people.
getting the decimal value here requires something more than windows calculator.

you're saying that RUSSIA was able to influence an election of the greatest country in the world with $100k and 400 fake accounts.

now query on how many fake users are on facebook, you're into the millions. 8-11%, 83 million - all googlable if you choose to get curious vs. take what you're told.

so, 400 fake accounts did what 83 million can't?

and you wonder why people can't take this seriously.

.00001 of overall revenue. 400 fake accounts out of 83 million.

what motivation does facebook have to out 400 fake accounts and leave the other 82,999,9600 alone?

take out politics and how you *feel* about this and just ask yourself those simple questions.

Nice effort to deflect, sadly for you it won't convince anyone but those already biased to believe your first Lie, to wit:

"RUSSIA was never NEVER a concern til the dems lost."

Four months before the election, "Since July 2016, the FBI has been investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts."

Timeline of Russia Investigation - FactCheck.org

Response?

great.

now tell me how $100k changed the course of our country without it sounding like an idiotic grade C sci-fi novel and killer tomatoes coming at us.

 

[bodecea]

The entire media has been exposed as a pack of hyperpartisan liars and conspiracy theorists led by CNN and greed

Only in a vacuum of special pleading and right wing fantasy.

We're all out to get them, you know. If the MSM or the Deep State doesn't.....Hillary has them "suicide".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you even know what your point is?

yea, you're an idiot and i'm done.

bye.

You can't make a clear point but I'm the idiot? You should leave.

 

[iceberg]

Do you even know what your point is?

yea, you're an idiot and i'm done.

bye.

You can't make a clear point but I'm the idiot? You should leave.

i'm already gone, son.

 

[easyt65]

Should we blame the right wing, for not being PATRIOTic, enough in their Acts?

Please explain that to me, what the snowflake justification for that would be....

Based on absolutely ZERO evidence of any wrong-doing or crime the false accusations of 'Russian Collusion' was declared by liberals / snowflakes.

In 10 months of multiple investigations it has been revealed:
- Obama wire-tapped the Campaign manager of the GOP Presidential Candidate before and during an election

- Obama /'s administration illegally shared / leaked the protected personal classified information of the GOP candidate and his election team during an election, illegally unmasked the GOP Candidate and his team during al election, and committed what the NSA and FBI both referred to as Felony Espionage for political benefit during the Presidential election

- In violation of US law that states foreign collusion in the collection of 'damaging information' / 'dirt' to use in a US election against a candidate, the former President and his head of the FBI sought to acquire a false report filled with Russian Propaganda from foreign agents to use against the GOP's Presidential Candidate

- In violation of that same law Democrats colluded with Ukraine / Ukrainians to collect 'dirt' on and use against the GOP's Presidential candidate during a Presidential election

During the election it was discovered that the DNC's Candidate's Election Campaign Team was funding organizations that provided violent protestors who physically attacked - beat and bloodied - GOP Presidential Candidate supporters at GOP Presidential Campaign rallies -- that the DNC candidate's team hired thugs to beat up American citizens who opposed her election but who she claimed to want to 'represent' as their President.

During the election campaign liberals carried out the actions of now-existing self-proclaimed Anti-American fascist Anarchist ANTIFA:
- Rioting
- Looting
- Arson
- Terrorism
- Destruction of Property
- 'Silencing Freedom of Speech with the use of violence
- Attempted to change the outcome of the already-decided election by threatening the lives of Electoral College voters and the lives of their family members
- Called for treasonous military coups
- Called for assassinations
- ATTEMPTED TO CARRY OUT those assassinations

...and of course snowflakes, radical Leftist extremists / Antifa don't count any of this as 'UN-PATRIOTIC' Behavior....

During the election the DNC candidate was under multiple FBI investigations for multiple crimes, to include Espionage, many of which she DID commit - there is no denying that had a GOP candidate been in the same situation they would have been FORCED form the race...while the DNC candidate was protected from having to od so.

During the election it was revealed the DNC candidate took a large amount of money from a prominent Russian involved in the purchase of a large amount of US uranium, a suggested payment for her assisted 'influence' in helping the deal go through.

During the election the DNC Candidate's husband was working for the KGB, her campaign manager was receiving thousands of shares of unreported Russian stock while 1/3rd of the board members of his personal company consisted of prominent Russians with connections directly to the Kremlin and President Putin, and the candidate's campaign manager's brother was working for the Russian Spy agency that supposedly hacked the DNC's damaging e-mails.

So what exactly did Trump, his team, and his supporters ACTUALLY (substantiated by fact / evidence) that surpassed all of this enough to be called 'NOT PATRIOTIC ENOUGH'?

 

[basquebromance]

 

[easyt65]

"RUSSIA was never NEVER a concern til the dems lost."

Four months before the election, "Since July 2016, the FBI has been investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts."

Timeline of Russia Investigation - FactCheck.org

Response?

Obama declared that Russian attempts to interfere in our election was NOTHING NEW, that nations tried to do it all the time.
- Hell, OBAMA personally interfered in the elections / governance of Israel, Libya, Egypt, Syria...and, of course, the US.

Evidence came out that Obama knew about the supposed 'interference' long before he admitted it...and it was 'such a threat' that he never did anything about it, never brought it up during his discussions with the Russians about his intent to invade Syria and ensure he could get Putin's blessing to do so, get assurance they could co-exist in Syria together.

Comey testified that Trump team info was 'incidentally collected', that none of the information had any foreign Intel value, that the Trump team was doing NOTHING with the Russians regarding 'Collusion' based on the information collected. There was ZERO EVIDENCE of the crime of Collusion, but Barry used the excuse to wire-tap the campaign manager of the GOP Presidential Candidate during an election he 'could not afford to let trump win'.

There has NEVER been any evidence of a crime of 'Collusion'...involving the GOP / Trump's team. (Collusion involving Obama / Democrats and Ukrainians and other foreign agents are another story - plenty of evidence there!)

 

[MindWars]

US government taped BEFORE and after, not during; he was a foreign agent. We do that to foreign agents.

Funny when Trump isn't a foreigner isn't it. Oh wait but it's ok to Tap Trump, and it's ok to steal information upon a fellow American.
the point goes over the heads of SHEEp constantly.