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They don't hate religion, they hate Christianity and the advanced civilization it produced. They live Islam. They live Atheism. They love anyIt's like dealing with trained parrots some times.
They have learned to repeat certain words when presented with certain stimuli. They have absolutely no comprehension of the words they present, however, nor any understanding of why they are even saying them other than the fact that their little peeps all approve.
No, they tolerate us to the degree they remain a minority.It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day
So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.You kinda scare me when you suggest that Mohammed was demanding submission "to him" and not Allah. .
Mohammadism and Islam are interchangeable terms. The warlord created this new quasi-religion placing himself as the sole authority in order to prop up his power by investing his actions with Godly sanctioning.
It is hardly a stretch to say he was demanding submission to him when that is exactly what he was doing.
You seem to be caught up on the word "religion", the assumption being that Islam operates just like Christianity or Judaism. It doesn't and it never did.
It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
I have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.You kinda scare me when you suggest that Mohammed was demanding submission "to him" and not Allah. .
Mohammadism and Islam are interchangeable terms. The warlord created this new quasi-religion placing himself as the sole authority in order to prop up his power by investing his actions with Godly sanctioning.
It is hardly a stretch to say he was demanding submission to him when that is exactly what he was doing.
You seem to be caught up on the word "religion", the assumption being that Islam operates just like Christianity or Judaism. It doesn't and it never did.
It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
The religion is tarred by the teachings of its founder (my piss be upon him)you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists
I will concede that Islam, and eastern cultures do no embrace and recognize the distinction between religion and secular government. However, you seem to be unable to acknowledge the fact that there are Muslims, particularly American Muslims, who do in fact value secular government over religious domination, and that there are Christians WHO DO NOT. You state that "Christianity does not preach operational dominance over the body politic in America".The only difference is that Cruz and Huckabee did not put on a suicide vest. Otherwise, they are EXACTLY EQUAL. Not worthy of refutation? Translation: You can't refute it.THIS is an example of the insanity of the Left.Much of what you attribute to "mainstream Islam" can also apply to "mainstream" Christianity. Then you have radical Christianity that is identical to what you accuse Islam of. Ever hear of Christian Dominionism? Have you listened to the rhetoric spewed by some of the (former) Republican presidential candidate -mainly Cruz and Huckabee- and now we have Mike Pence.
Ted Cruz equals a Devout Muslim!
Not even worthy of refutation. Just more proof you cannot reason with the leftists crazies.
Government school grad, huh?
There is no comparison, outside of comparing your education with asphalt.
Not a chance in the world you've any familiarity, much less read, Tocqueville.
This:
Although Christianity in its many varieties was the religion of the original colonies, Christianity does not preach operational dominance over the body politic in America.
Tocqueville compared this aspect to Islam:
“Mohammed professed to derive from Heaven, and has inserted in the Koran, not only religious doctrines, but political maxims, civil and criminal laws, and theories of science.
The Gospel, on the contrary, speaks only of the general relations of men to God and to each other, beyond which it inculcates and imposes no point of faith. This alone, besides a thousand other reasons, would suffice to prove that the former of these religions will never long predominate in a cultivated and democratic age, while the latter is destined to retain its sway at these as at all other periods.”
Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” vol.2, p. 23.
Sadly, there are enough fools like you to finally destroy this once great nation.
If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.You kinda scare me when you suggest that Mohammed was demanding submission "to him" and not Allah. .
Mohammadism and Islam are interchangeable terms. The warlord created this new quasi-religion placing himself as the sole authority in order to prop up his power by investing his actions with Godly sanctioning.
It is hardly a stretch to say he was demanding submission to him when that is exactly what he was doing.
You seem to be caught up on the word "religion", the assumption being that Islam operates just like Christianity or Judaism. It doesn't and it never did.
It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.You kinda scare me when you suggest that Mohammed was demanding submission "to him" and not Allah. .
Mohammadism and Islam are interchangeable terms. The warlord created this new quasi-religion placing himself as the sole authority in order to prop up his power by investing his actions with Godly sanctioning.
It is hardly a stretch to say he was demanding submission to him when that is exactly what he was doing.
You seem to be caught up on the word "religion", the assumption being that Islam operates just like Christianity or Judaism. It doesn't and it never did.
It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
"Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."
CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.Mohammadism and Islam are interchangeable terms. The warlord created this new quasi-religion placing himself as the sole authority in order to prop up his power by investing his actions with Godly sanctioning.
It is hardly a stretch to say he was demanding submission to him when that is exactly what he was doing.
You seem to be caught up on the word "religion", the assumption being that Islam operates just like Christianity or Judaism. It doesn't and it never did.
It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
With the crap you've been spewing it's not exactly a stretch for the possibility that if you look like a drooling retard you probably are.With what has been going on in the world, it's not exactly a stretch for the possibility that if the perp looked Hispanic to actually be Arab.
Look man I don't know what your problem is.
The reports are it's a Hispanic male, correct?
All's I'm saying that when you look around and see what is going on in the world today, and what's been happening here in the U.S., I'm simply wondering if this could actually have been someone with an Arab background and another Islamic attack.
What is so unreasonable about that?
I don't have a problem. You are the one who harbors so much bigotry and xenophobia. No wonder you support Trump
So he's not Hispanic after all.
Are you going to apologize to me now?
No. You happened to be right this time, but it doesn't change the fact that your suspicions were based on bigotry and xenophobia. In this instance, it just happened to pan out.
CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
No response to me, huh? Telling.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
I didn't attack your skin color, stop trying to make yourself a victim. I said you didn't look hispanic to me.
Your broadbrushing is evident in your prior post, as well as others you have made involving Muslims.
That is all I'm going to say about it.
It's why I keep pictures offline. The last time I posted a picture of me, somebody said I looked like a Puerto Rican, not a Native American. I find it never proves anything and only feeds the trolls.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.It does in America. We provided a context for it's practice without all the baggage. Not that "our brand" of Muslims are gonna win at defanging Islam in general. But from an American prospective, it CAN BE just like Christianity or Judaism if the ties to the outside are severed.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
It's why I keep pictures offline. The last time I posted a picture of me, somebody said I looked like a Puerto Rican, not a Native American. I find it never proves anything and only feeds the trolls.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
No response to me, huh? Telling.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
I didn't attack your skin color, stop trying to make yourself a victim. I said you didn't look hispanic to me.
Your broadbrushing is evident in your prior post, as well as others you have made involving Muslims.
That is all I'm going to say about it.
#580. You really couldn't go back a page?No response to me, huh? Telling.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
I didn't attack your skin color, stop trying to make yourself a victim. I said you didn't look hispanic to me.
Your broadbrushing is evident in your prior post, as well as others you have made involving Muslims.
That is all I'm going to say about it.
Where?
You saw a brown man and just assumed the worst based on your own prejudice, no facts whatsoever. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
One might as well offer evidence that that the Earth is billions of years old to a raving fundamentalist who insists it is just 6000.
You true believers make for quite the interesting study. You are ignorant, you are incapable of logic, the notion of probability completely escapes you and your positions are completely hypocritical.
The victims do not matter a whit to you. The threat to western civilization due to Islam does not matter to you. All that matters is YOU, and your selfish need to feel smug and superior by calling people names if they don't join you in defending all the mayhem caused by Islam.
You are a boy and you will remain a boy until you man up.
The customer was struck in the chest area and witnesses administered CPR. Since officers treated the incident as a hostage situation there was a delay to get medical treatment to the victim. The victim was transported to Spring Valley Hospital where he or she died.
Police said as people were evacuating the Starbucks it was unclear if the suspect exited or remained inside.
A suspect, described as a Hispanic man approximately 30 to 40 years-old, was later detained, police said.
Police: Deadly shooting at Las Vegas Starbucks result of declined card
Which is why I don't even bother trying to "prove" to anyone my heritage. I'm a Blackfoot Indian. If somebody wants to disbelieve that, vaya con Dios.It's why I keep pictures offline. The last time I posted a picture of me, somebody said I looked like a Puerto Rican, not a Native American. I find it never proves anything and only feeds the trolls.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
I think it's often extremely difficult to claim someone is of a certain ethnicity based on a few crappy photos (as in the police images). A lot of hispanics, middle easterners and native Americans don't look like the stereotypical image but that doesnt' mean they aren't.
You made me a victim.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.If you read a good biography of Mohammed, you can learn a great deal about what shaped the religion, the upheavals and conflicts of the time. What Mohammed saw, in the Arab culture, his own culture was an excess of extravagance, pride and honor motivated violence that was moving people away from God. Widows and orphans suffered impoverishment, the poor were ignored and wealth was concentrated and wasted in the hands of a few. That's an oversimplification, but it was what led him to try to change his culture and bring his people closer to God within the context of values of the times.
The Quran is full of verses about war and conflict, but those verses are often stripped of their context, much like some will do with the Bible. Unlike the OT however it is also full of rules as to when it's permissible to conduct war, how to treat those captured etc.
It is also full of verses on peace, justness and compassion. That often gets ignored, both by its detractors and its extremists.
What I don't understand is this attitude that insists Islam cannot ever work within a culture of western ideals, freedoms and rights. Followers of the Bible, a book full of bloody vengeful intolerant actions and commands have done so. They place an emphasis on the peaceful and compassionate aspects, and view the violence in a metsphorical fashion rather than literal. The Quran contains the same potential. So have many Muslims in western countries, including many in Europe. It isn't the rarity people think it is, it's often that you only ever here of Muslims behaving badly and Europe is under intense pressure with the migrant and refugee situation.
It isn't that Islam cannot coexist with western values, it does, every day.
The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
I didn't attack your skin color, stop trying to make yourself a victim. I said you didn't look hispanic to me.
Your broadbrushing is evident in your prior post, as well as others you have made involving Muslims.
That is all I'm going to say about it.
Is this guy a fake "Hispanic" Muslim too?
You made me a victim.CoyoteI have never done that, you are the one that has a very, very broad brush which you use liberally, especially on me for a large variety of issues and failings of others not just the instant issue.So you tar an entire religion with the actions of extremists.The most glaring antithesis to your flowery prose occurred the day these followers of Mohammed flew jets into various building killing innocents. That type of behavior has not ceased.
You think it is funny?
This thread is still open anytime you want to get close and personal. Bull Ring - Coyote's Claims against Alex. All it takes a degree of honesty and courage.
To attack my skin color and then question my tolerance and acceptance within the stricture of law and society for those who peaceably worship a God different than my own is beyond the pale.
I didn't attack your skin color, stop trying to make yourself a victim. I said you didn't look hispanic to me.
Your broadbrushing is evident in your prior post, as well as others you have made involving Muslims.
That is all I'm going to say about it.
Now stand up and be a real woman of your word or continue to run and hide.
