Breaking News from Genesis 1:9

Science and Genesis are one in the same.
Lol..Now that’s a first..So explain how you reconcile the earth being 6000 years old according to Genesis with science?
Do you believe time is constant?
That my be your best argument. Does the Bible indicate anywhere where time is relative?
Not that I know of. It’s not likely that has anything to do with our salvation.
I admit there are things in the world that defy explanation. I discount nothing.
And to the question of the age of the earth, investigate geology. Look at every cut and the layers from all over the world.

Precise and distinct layers with a key feature always missing - no rivers or streams are seen in any layering. Odds are you’d see a stream cut somewhere.
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BTW - the top photo is layers formed over just a 2 month period. Mt St Helens. It could pass off as being millions of years old.
 
Before we get to the Bible, let's discuss the settled science. Is that from Bill Nye? Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? Who was it? How did he do it? What does a waterworld do to it? Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? It doesn't mention any waterworld. Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly?

ETA: Oops, I didn't answer your question. What happens when the science does not back up the Bible? Nothing. The Bible can't change. It remains the same. This was the case when scientists and people believed in an eternal universe for decades.
Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay
Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development
What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see
Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented.

>>Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay<<

How can it be settled if the creation scientist and I disagree? One would have to make assumptions on daughter to parent ratios. Furthermore, what I was getting at who was what the scientist and what did he measure? This was in 1956. He measured a meteorite. Why would he do that?

>>Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development<<

If you don't know, then it's better to say something like your answer. It was Clair Patterson and he used a meteorite. He also had to build a clean room to avoid contamination. Prior to this, the Earth was measured at 3 billion years old. Why wasn't that enough time for Darwin?

>>What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see<<

What do the Antibibalists or evolutionists have in regards to time? Geologic timescale. Wouldn't they need something such as this to explain their science? I think what you will find is the Christians had their science first and then the Antibibalists/evos made up stuff to contradict it.

geologic_time_scale.jpg


Darwin's:

Years
ago
Event


130,000 Anatomically modern humans evolve. Seventy thousand years later, their descendents create cave paintings — early expressions of consciousness.
4 million In Africa, an early hominid, affectionately named "Lucy" by scientists, lives. The ice ages begin, and many large mammals go extinct.
65 million A massive asteroid hits the Yucatan Peninsula, and ammonites and non-avian dinosaurs go extinct. Birds and mammals are among the survivors.
130 million As the continents drift toward their present positions, the earliest flowers evolve, and dinosaurs dominate the landscape. In the sea, bony fish diversify.
225 million Dinosaurs and mammals evolve. Pangea has begun to break apart.
248 million Over 90% of marine life and 70% of terrestrial life go extinct during the Earth's largest mass extinction. Ammonites are among the survivors.
250 million The supercontinent called Pangea forms. Conifer-like forests, reptiles, and synapsids (the ancestors of mammals) are common.
360 million Four-limbed vertebrates move onto the land as seed plants and large forests appear. The Earth's oceans support vast reef systems.
420 million Land plants evolve, drastically changing Earth's landscape and creating new habitats.
450 million Arthropods move onto the land. Their descendants evolve into scorpions, spiders, mites, and millipedes.
500 million Fish-like vertebrates evolve. Invertebrates, such as trilobites, crinoids, brachiopids, and cephalopods, are common in the oceans.
555 million Multi-cellular marine organisms are common. The diverse assortment of life includes bizarre-looking animals like Wiwaxia.
3.5 billion Unicellular life evolves. Photosynthetic bacteria begin to release oxygen into the atmosphere.
3.8 billion Replicating molecules (the precursors of DNA) form.
4.6 billion The Earth forms and is bombarded by meteorites and comets.

Thus, Darwin needed more than 3 billion years to explain evolution. A waterworld 3.2 B yrs ago screws it up.

I'll stop here and we can continue our discussion. Can you answer why the Earth is 3/4 covered by ocean water?

Important events in the history of life

More questions in regards to waterworld.

What happened to the supercontinent that was broken up to seven continents (plate tectonics)?

Darwin's problem of geological timeline explained in detail - http://www.blc.arizona.edu/courses/schaffer/449/Soft Inhertance/Burchfield - Darwin and Geol. Time.pdf

Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
I've read about Darwin's evolution. You can quibble about it.

How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented
The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented

Whoever’s quote that is:
First question is why you need to make such an outlandish lie. We’ve got copies going back to the time of Christ and every copy is identical to what you’ll buy in Barnes and Noble.
I was the one who wrote "The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented" and I stand by that statement. I also know that we have have nothing in writing from the time of Christ. In fact, of the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, NONE of them are exactly the same. Most differences are scribe errors but some are intentional changes to the text.
And a little Bible trivia for you: Many scholars believed the book of Daniel was written after the events that it lists. Daniel was too accurate.

Then they found fragments of the book dating to before those events occurred.
So what? So some guys wrote some stuff down. Is that supposed to impress us? Alchemists and voodoo priests also write stuff down.
 
"What happened to the supercontinent that was broken up to seven continents (plate tectonics)?" I don't follow you, you seem to have the correct answer.

"Darwin needed more than 3 billion years to explain evolution. A waterworld 3.2 B yrs ago screws it up." Darwin had only a vague notion of the age of the earth so you needn't be concern about him. Was the entire ocean frozen solid to the very bottom? Were there no thermal vents?

"Can you answer why the Earth is 3/4 covered by ocean water?"
That's how much water there is?

Waterworld would mean you couldn't see the supercontinent because it was underwater. A global flood meant it was underwater for a year until the water receded and Noah's family and the animals were able to repopulate again. The Bible explains it again.

It means Darwin was wrong whether waterworld or not. Like I keep saying atheists are usually wrong.

According to the few evos, the comets and meteors that hit Earth around 4.5 B years ago had ice on it which eventually melted and that's how the Earth now has 3/4 water. Nobody believes that BS lol.
 
I was the one who wrote "The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented" and I stand by that statement. I also know that we have have nothing in writing from the time of Christ. In fact, of the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, NONE of them are exactly the same. Most differences are scribe errors but some are intentional changes to the text.

Listen to Weatherman2020 and not David Strauss.
 
So what? So some guys wrote some stuff down. Is that supposed to impress us?

It's the Book of Daniel which describes the end of the world and what happens. It should make you take stock of your no Jesus position. TBH, it is allegory and metaphor. People in the past talked about it and discuss what was true and all that. It talks about the dead rising from the grave again and reuniting with the bodies. Today,we find zombie stories and movies are popular. My hero, Blaise Pascal might've just shrugged his shoulders and said...

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Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay
Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development
What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see
Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented.

>>Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay<<

How can it be settled if the creation scientist and I disagree? One would have to make assumptions on daughter to parent ratios. Furthermore, what I was getting at who was what the scientist and what did he measure? This was in 1956. He measured a meteorite. Why would he do that?

>>Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development<<

If you don't know, then it's better to say something like your answer. It was Clair Patterson and he used a meteorite. He also had to build a clean room to avoid contamination. Prior to this, the Earth was measured at 3 billion years old. Why wasn't that enough time for Darwin?

>>What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see<<

What do the Antibibalists or evolutionists have in regards to time? Geologic timescale. Wouldn't they need something such as this to explain their science? I think what you will find is the Christians had their science first and then the Antibibalists/evos made up stuff to contradict it.

geologic_time_scale.jpg


Darwin's:

Years
ago
Event


130,000 Anatomically modern humans evolve. Seventy thousand years later, their descendents create cave paintings — early expressions of consciousness.
4 million In Africa, an early hominid, affectionately named "Lucy" by scientists, lives. The ice ages begin, and many large mammals go extinct.
65 million A massive asteroid hits the Yucatan Peninsula, and ammonites and non-avian dinosaurs go extinct. Birds and mammals are among the survivors.
130 million As the continents drift toward their present positions, the earliest flowers evolve, and dinosaurs dominate the landscape. In the sea, bony fish diversify.
225 million Dinosaurs and mammals evolve. Pangea has begun to break apart.
248 million Over 90% of marine life and 70% of terrestrial life go extinct during the Earth's largest mass extinction. Ammonites are among the survivors.
250 million The supercontinent called Pangea forms. Conifer-like forests, reptiles, and synapsids (the ancestors of mammals) are common.
360 million Four-limbed vertebrates move onto the land as seed plants and large forests appear. The Earth's oceans support vast reef systems.
420 million Land plants evolve, drastically changing Earth's landscape and creating new habitats.
450 million Arthropods move onto the land. Their descendants evolve into scorpions, spiders, mites, and millipedes.
500 million Fish-like vertebrates evolve. Invertebrates, such as trilobites, crinoids, brachiopids, and cephalopods, are common in the oceans.
555 million Multi-cellular marine organisms are common. The diverse assortment of life includes bizarre-looking animals like Wiwaxia.
3.5 billion Unicellular life evolves. Photosynthetic bacteria begin to release oxygen into the atmosphere.
3.8 billion Replicating molecules (the precursors of DNA) form.
4.6 billion The Earth forms and is bombarded by meteorites and comets.

Thus, Darwin needed more than 3 billion years to explain evolution. A waterworld 3.2 B yrs ago screws it up.

I'll stop here and we can continue our discussion. Can you answer why the Earth is 3/4 covered by ocean water?

Important events in the history of life

More questions in regards to waterworld.

What happened to the supercontinent that was broken up to seven continents (plate tectonics)?

Darwin's problem of geological timeline explained in detail - http://www.blc.arizona.edu/courses/schaffer/449/Soft Inhertance/Burchfield - Darwin and Geol. Time.pdf

Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
I've read about Darwin's evolution. You can quibble about it.

How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented
The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented

Whoever’s quote that is:
First question is why you need to make such an outlandish lie. We’ve got copies going back to the time of Christ and every copy is identical to what you’ll buy in Barnes and Noble.
I was the one who wrote "The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented" and I stand by that statement. I also know that we have have nothing in writing from the time of Christ. In fact, of the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, NONE of them are exactly the same. Most differences are scribe errors but some are intentional changes to the text.
And a little Bible trivia for you: Many scholars believed the book of Daniel was written after the events that it lists. Daniel was too accurate.

Then they found fragments of the book dating to before those events occurred.
So what? So some guys wrote some stuff down. Is that supposed to impress us? Alchemists and voodoo priests also write stuff down.
Who accurately wrote down the rise and fall of civilizations of the future? Be specific.
 
Before we get to the Bible, let's discuss the settled science. Is that from Bill Nye? Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? Who was it? How did he do it? What does a waterworld do to it? Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? It doesn't mention any waterworld. Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly?

ETA: Oops, I didn't answer your question. What happens when the science does not back up the Bible? Nothing. The Bible can't change. It remains the same. This was the case when scientists and people believed in an eternal universe for decades.
Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay
Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development
What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see
Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented.

>>Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay<<

How can it be settled if the creation scientist and I disagree? One would have to make assumptions on daughter to parent ratios. Furthermore, what I was getting at who was what the scientist and what did he measure? This was in 1956. He measured a meteorite. Why would he do that?

>>Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development<<

If you don't know, then it's better to say something like your answer. It was Clair Patterson and he used a meteorite. He also had to build a clean room to avoid contamination. Prior to this, the Earth was measured at 3 billion years old. Why wasn't that enough time for Darwin?

>>What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see<<

What do the Antibibalists or evolutionists have in regards to time? Geologic timescale. Wouldn't they need something such as this to explain their science? I think what you will find is the Christians had their science first and then the Antibibalists/evos made up stuff to contradict it.

geologic_time_scale.jpg


Darwin's:

Years
ago
Event


130,000 Anatomically modern humans evolve. Seventy thousand years later, their descendents create cave paintings — early expressions of consciousness.
4 million In Africa, an early hominid, affectionately named "Lucy" by scientists, lives. The ice ages begin, and many large mammals go extinct.
65 million A massive asteroid hits the Yucatan Peninsula, and ammonites and non-avian dinosaurs go extinct. Birds and mammals are among the survivors.
130 million As the continents drift toward their present positions, the earliest flowers evolve, and dinosaurs dominate the landscape. In the sea, bony fish diversify.
225 million Dinosaurs and mammals evolve. Pangea has begun to break apart.
248 million Over 90% of marine life and 70% of terrestrial life go extinct during the Earth's largest mass extinction. Ammonites are among the survivors.
250 million The supercontinent called Pangea forms. Conifer-like forests, reptiles, and synapsids (the ancestors of mammals) are common.
360 million Four-limbed vertebrates move onto the land as seed plants and large forests appear. The Earth's oceans support vast reef systems.
420 million Land plants evolve, drastically changing Earth's landscape and creating new habitats.
450 million Arthropods move onto the land. Their descendants evolve into scorpions, spiders, mites, and millipedes.
500 million Fish-like vertebrates evolve. Invertebrates, such as trilobites, crinoids, brachiopids, and cephalopods, are common in the oceans.
555 million Multi-cellular marine organisms are common. The diverse assortment of life includes bizarre-looking animals like Wiwaxia.
3.5 billion Unicellular life evolves. Photosynthetic bacteria begin to release oxygen into the atmosphere.
3.8 billion Replicating molecules (the precursors of DNA) form.
4.6 billion The Earth forms and is bombarded by meteorites and comets.

Thus, Darwin needed more than 3 billion years to explain evolution. A waterworld 3.2 B yrs ago screws it up.

I'll stop here and we can continue our discussion. Can you answer why the Earth is 3/4 covered by ocean water?

Important events in the history of life

More questions in regards to waterworld.

What happened to the supercontinent that was broken up to seven continents (plate tectonics)?

Darwin's problem of geological timeline explained in detail - http://www.blc.arizona.edu/courses/schaffer/449/Soft Inhertance/Burchfield - Darwin and Geol. Time.pdf

Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
I've read about Darwin's evolution. You can quibble about it.

How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented
The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented

Whoever’s quote that is:
First question is why you need to make such an outlandish lie. We’ve got copies going back to the time of Christ and every copy is identical to what you’ll buy in Barnes and Noble.
I was the one who wrote "The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented" and I stand by that statement. I also know that we have have nothing in writing from the time of Christ. In fact, of the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, NONE of them are exactly the same. Most differences are scribe errors but some are intentional changes to the text.
I find it consistent that those who don’t believe are always ignorant of the facts.

I’ve seen them with my own eyes.

2,000-year-old Dead Sea Scroll deciphered, revealing 2nd Temple power struggles

Everything in every copy found after is the same.
I don't think I could have been more clear. It is the NT that has been changing since its inception and what I said about the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, is exactly true, NONE of them are exactly the same.

I find it amazing that people who consider the Bible, OT and/or NT, to be the word of God have often never read studied it. Talk about ignorance.
 
Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay
Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development
What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see
Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented.

>>Do you know how they determined Earth is 4.5 billion years old? - Settled science: radioisotope decay<<

How can it be settled if the creation scientist and I disagree? One would have to make assumptions on daughter to parent ratios. Furthermore, what I was getting at who was what the scientist and what did he measure? This was in 1956. He measured a meteorite. Why would he do that?

>>Who was it? How did he do it? - I doubt it was a single scientist but more of a continuous development<<

If you don't know, then it's better to say something like your answer. It was Clair Patterson and he used a meteorite. He also had to build a clean room to avoid contamination. Prior to this, the Earth was measured at 3 billion years old. Why wasn't that enough time for Darwin?

>>What does a waterworld do to it? - Nothing that I can see<<

What do the Antibibalists or evolutionists have in regards to time? Geologic timescale. Wouldn't they need something such as this to explain their science? I think what you will find is the Christians had their science first and then the Antibibalists/evos made up stuff to contradict it.

geologic_time_scale.jpg


Darwin's:

Years
ago
Event


130,000 Anatomically modern humans evolve. Seventy thousand years later, their descendents create cave paintings — early expressions of consciousness.
4 million In Africa, an early hominid, affectionately named "Lucy" by scientists, lives. The ice ages begin, and many large mammals go extinct.
65 million A massive asteroid hits the Yucatan Peninsula, and ammonites and non-avian dinosaurs go extinct. Birds and mammals are among the survivors.
130 million As the continents drift toward their present positions, the earliest flowers evolve, and dinosaurs dominate the landscape. In the sea, bony fish diversify.
225 million Dinosaurs and mammals evolve. Pangea has begun to break apart.
248 million Over 90% of marine life and 70% of terrestrial life go extinct during the Earth's largest mass extinction. Ammonites are among the survivors.
250 million The supercontinent called Pangea forms. Conifer-like forests, reptiles, and synapsids (the ancestors of mammals) are common.
360 million Four-limbed vertebrates move onto the land as seed plants and large forests appear. The Earth's oceans support vast reef systems.
420 million Land plants evolve, drastically changing Earth's landscape and creating new habitats.
450 million Arthropods move onto the land. Their descendants evolve into scorpions, spiders, mites, and millipedes.
500 million Fish-like vertebrates evolve. Invertebrates, such as trilobites, crinoids, brachiopids, and cephalopods, are common in the oceans.
555 million Multi-cellular marine organisms are common. The diverse assortment of life includes bizarre-looking animals like Wiwaxia.
3.5 billion Unicellular life evolves. Photosynthetic bacteria begin to release oxygen into the atmosphere.
3.8 billion Replicating molecules (the precursors of DNA) form.
4.6 billion The Earth forms and is bombarded by meteorites and comets.

Thus, Darwin needed more than 3 billion years to explain evolution. A waterworld 3.2 B yrs ago screws it up.

I'll stop here and we can continue our discussion. Can you answer why the Earth is 3/4 covered by ocean water?

Important events in the history of life

More questions in regards to waterworld.

What happened to the supercontinent that was broken up to seven continents (plate tectonics)?

Darwin's problem of geological timeline explained in detail - http://www.blc.arizona.edu/courses/schaffer/449/Soft Inhertance/Burchfield - Darwin and Geol. Time.pdf

Next, there was no life whatsoever 3.2 billion years ago. - You know that how?
I've read about Darwin's evolution. You can quibble about it.

How do you explain the buried and underwater civilizations and marine fossils in the Himalayas and Mt. Everest? - Settled science: sea level rise and plate tectonics
Moreover, how do you explain most of the fossil record are from marine animals. - Settled science: fossils form when something gets buried, generally land is eroding and those sediments are being deposited in the sea
What about the fountains of the deep Bill Nye accidentally found and had no idea what it meant? - No clue what that is. Link?
What about the evolution timeline based on older layers on the bottom and younger layers on top? - Settled science. What is your problem with this?
It doesn't mention any waterworld. - Why do you think it should?
Furthermore, we have the uniformitarianism theory that the present is the key to the past. This shows just what exactly? - Settled science: we should believe our eyes.

The Bible can't change. It remains the same. - Untrue. The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented
The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented

Whoever’s quote that is:
First question is why you need to make such an outlandish lie. We’ve got copies going back to the time of Christ and every copy is identical to what you’ll buy in Barnes and Noble.
I was the one who wrote "The Bible has been changing since it's inception, it only stopped when the printing press was invented" and I stand by that statement. I also know that we have have nothing in writing from the time of Christ. In fact, of the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, NONE of them are exactly the same. Most differences are scribe errors but some are intentional changes to the text.
I find it consistent that those who don’t believe are always ignorant of the facts.

I’ve seen them with my own eyes.

2,000-year-old Dead Sea Scroll deciphered, revealing 2nd Temple power struggles

Everything in every copy found after is the same.
I don't think I could have been more clear. It is the NT that has been changing since its inception and what I said about the thousands of fragments of the Gospels we have from before the printing press, is exactly true, NONE of them are exactly the same.

I find it amazing that people who consider the Bible, OT and/or NT, to be the word of God have often never read studied it. Talk about ignorance.
We have an NT from 300AD.
It’s identical to what you’ll buy in Barnes and Noble today.
 
It’s your claim voodoo folks are prophetic
No, I said they wrote things down. Pay attention.

But, you just got a millimeter closer to making a point! Now, all you have to do is show us all the fulfilled Bible prophecies, then state clearly your implied claim that the Bible is unique in stating things that later happened.

Then, we can examine your claim.

And...go!
 
It’s your claim voodoo folks are prophetic
No, I said they wrote things down. Pay attention.

But, you just got a millimeter closer to making a point! Now, all you have to do is show us all the fulfilled Bible prophecies, then state clearly your implied claim that the Bible is unique in stating things that later happened.

Then, we can examine your claim.

And...go!
Man, you’re extra stuck on stupid today. Your desperate lack of understanding of basic theology is hysterical.
 
It’s your claim voodoo folks are prophetic
No, I said they wrote things down. Pay attention.

But, you just got a millimeter closer to making a point! Now, all you have to do is show us all the fulfilled Bible prophecies, then state clearly your implied claim that the Bible is unique in stating things that later happened.

Then, we can examine your claim.

And...go!
Man, you’re extra stuck on stupid today. Your desperate lack of understanding of basic theology is hysterical.
Cool whining! But you don't really want to turn yet another one of your own threads into a thread about me, do you?

Let me continue to provide guidance and encouragement. You were about to make some sort of point about the Bible being unique or special, and it was going to have something to do with prophecies.

And, go!
 
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We have an NT from 300AD.
It’s identical to what you’ll buy in Barnes and Noble today.
I'd appreciate a link if you would. What I know:
Textual scholar Bart D. Ehrman writes: "It is true, of course, that the New Testament is abundantly attested in the manuscripts produced through the ages, but most of these manuscripts are many centuries removed from the originals, and none of them perfectly accurate. They all contain mistakes - altogether many thousands of mistakes. It is not an easy task to reconstruct the original words of the New Testament...."[32]
 
Floods happened and were seen as metaphysical thingies

You're still doing the narrow brained thinking. The new evidence is ocean water that covered the entire Earth based on the oxygen-18. The scientist said that it was analyzing the coffee grounds to see what kind of water flowed through it.
Many people today treat science like they treat the Bible, they pick and choose what to believe based on their preconceived ideas.

Not I. I go by the scientific evidence. It's interesting you reply to me and not Trader Harley nor the OP. It makes me wonder what are your preconceived ideas?

Can I help it if science backs up the Bible once again?
Aww triggered by reality

It would seem your reality and mine are different, but what has happened in the past can be verified with mine. Not yours tho.

What about the future reality? Mine is an allegorical end of the world by Jesus. Is yours an end of the world by large asteroid? What's strange to me is yours contradicts mine in that mine says we won't die by flooding again. Yours is a large asteroid causing a tsunami or tidal wave and causing much death and destruction. I assume people die by flooding. Who has time for worrying about such nonsense?
 
"What happened to the supercontinent that was broken up to seven continents (plate tectonics)?" I don't follow you, you seem to have the correct answer.

"Darwin needed more than 3 billion years to explain evolution. A waterworld 3.2 B yrs ago screws it up." Darwin had only a vague notion of the age of the earth so you needn't be concern about him. Was the entire ocean frozen solid to the very bottom? Were there no thermal vents?

"Can you answer why the Earth is 3/4 covered by ocean water?"
That's how much water there is?

Waterworld would mean you couldn't see the supercontinent because it was underwater. A global flood meant it was underwater for a year until the water receded and Noah's family and the animals were able to repopulate again. The Bible explains it again.

It means Darwin was wrong whether waterworld or not. Like I keep saying atheists are usually wrong.

According to the few evos, the comets and meteors that hit Earth around 4.5 B years ago had ice on it which eventually melted and that's how the Earth now has 3/4 water. Nobody believes that BS lol.
"A global flood meant it was underwater for a year until the water receded and Noah's family and the animals were able to repopulate again."
Where did you get the one year timetable? If the Earth was completely underwater I'd think that would take a long time to happen and a long time to disappear. Where did the water go? The Flood was a miraculous event, right? It didn't adhere to natural law so discussing it scientifically is silly.
 
Where did you get the one year timetable? If the Earth was completely underwater I'd think that would take a long time to happen and a long time to disappear. Where did the water go? The Flood was a miraculous event, right? It didn't adhere to natural law so discussing it scientifically is silly.

From Weatherman2020. How do I know I can use what he said?

The waters receded to what we have today. Amos 9:6 and Job 38:8-11. Psalm 104.

>>It didn't adhere to natural law so discussing it scientifically is silly.<<

What makes you state this?

Noah's flood was a supernatural event, but caused naturally; I wouldn't call it a miracle exactly. Forensic science and now scientific evidence backs the Bible up.
 
It’s your claim voodoo folks are prophetic
No, I said they wrote things down. Pay attention.

But, you just got a millimeter closer to making a point! Now, all you have to do is show us all the fulfilled Bible prophecies, then state clearly your implied claim that the Bible is unique in stating things that later happened.

Then, we can examine your claim.

And...go!
Man, you’re extra stuck on stupid today. Your desperate lack of understanding of basic theology is hysterical.
Cool whining! But you don't really want to turn yet another one of your own threads into a thread about me, do you?

Let me continue to provide guidance and encouragement. You were about to make some sort of point about the Bible being unique or special, and it was going to have something to do with prophecies.

And, go!
Cool whining? From someone who rebuts the Book of Daniel by saying people write things down?

See a shrink.
 
Where did you get the one year timetable? If the Earth was completely underwater I'd think that would take a long time to happen and a long time to disappear. Where did the water go? The Flood was a miraculous event, right? It didn't adhere to natural law so discussing it scientifically is silly.

From Weatherman2020. How do I know I can use what he said?

The waters receded to what we have today. Amos 9:6 and Job 38:8-11. Psalm 104.

>>It didn't adhere to natural law so discussing it scientifically is silly.<<

What makes you state this?

Noah's flood was a supernatural event, but caused naturally; I wouldn't call it a miracle exactly. Forensic science and now scientific evidence backs the Bible up.
They’re desperate and they know it.
 

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