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I have no doubt that Flake and Corker have decided not to run for reelection because they're worried about being primaried. That's not the real issue here.
Ward will almost certainly lose the general. Flake, if he ran again, would almost certainly win.
It is the only issue here. Opposition to Trumps agenda is now the kiss of political death for incumbent Republicans...that is far mord important than whether Dems get a pick up or not in Arizona. You need to think more strategically and less tactically.
You're going to lose some skirmishes on the way to laying claim to the battlefield. I'm not conceding Arizona...in all honesty I don't follow state level politics in any state other than my own. Trump is solidifying his power over the political fortunes of these political insiders...and that is more important than individual races.
Right now, on all 3 cable news channels, Sen. Jeff Flake is announcing that he will not run again for office.
Apparently, he's not happy about serving in a screwed up Congress under a president with no leadership qualities. And, he's not just talking about Trump, he's talking about the whole government, from the backbiting and fighting in Congress between the members all the way up to Trump and the way he's doing things.
He really doesn't sound happy about the way Congress and the government has divided itself.
Arizona's Jeff Flake announces he will not seek re-election to U.S. Senate
The bombshell, which Flake, R-Ariz., intended to detail Tuesday afternoon on the Senate floor, will further roil Republican hopes of keeping the party's 52-seat Senate majority in the midterm elections of Trump's first term, when the president's party historically loses seats in Congress.
It also likely will upend the race for Flake's seat.
Flake, one of the Senate's more prominent critics of President Donald Trump, has been struggling in the polls.
He told The Arizona Republic ahead of his announcement that he has become convinced "there may not be a place for a Republican like me in the current Republican climate or the current Republican Party."
'Here's the bottom line ...'
Flake said he has not "soured on the Senate" and loves the institution, but that as a traditional, libertarian-leaning conservative Republican he is out of step with today's Trump-dominated GOP.
"This spell will pass, but not by next year," Flake said.
Among Republican primary voters, there's overwhelming support for Trump's positions and "behavior," Flake said, and one of their top concerns is whether a candidate is with the president or against him. While Flake said he is with Trump on some issues, on other issues he is not. And Trump definitely views him as a foe, having denounced Flake publicly and called him "toxic" on Twitter.
"Here's the bottom line: The path that I would have to travel to get the Republican nomination is a path I'm not willing to take, and that I can't in good conscience take," Flake told The Republic in a telephone interview. "It would require me to believe in positions I don't hold on such issues as trade and immigration and it would require me to condone behavior that I cannot condone."
No, he just knows he'll be slaughtered in any election against the person bannon runs against him. He wasn't a conservative anyway so the repubs won't be missing him.
Draining the Swamp!!
That's why Kelli Ward beat McCain so badly, right?
Trump won Arizona by 4%...Flake opposed Trump and he's dropping out.
Trump won Tennessee by 26%...Corker opposed Trump, and he's dropped out.
If McCain were up for re-election, he'd be dropping out too.
As an aside...Trump won Missouri by 19%...incumbent Republican Senator Roy Blount eeked out a win on the same ballot by a measly 2%.
You don't get it.
Trump won Arizona by 4% (within the margin of error).
During that same election cycle, McCain beat Ward (a huge Trumpster) by double digits in the primary, and beat the Democrat challenger in the general by double digits as well.
Since then, Trump has only lost support.
So, it just a huge coincidence that the Republicans who are so far out of the realm of possibility for re-election That they are dropping out of their races and going home just HAPPEN to be the same Republicans that oppose the Trump agenda?
Come on... I was born at night, but it weren't LAST night.
I have no doubt that Flake and Corker have decided not to run for reelection because they're worried about being primaried. That's not the real issue here.
Ward will almost certainly lose the general. Flake, if he ran again, would almost certainly win.
I am not so sure of that. However Flake's chances of winning are better than Ward's. I think Flake has been damaged by his votes to kick millions off of their insurance.
Not what Drumpf ran on, so we shall see.There might be a "bloodbath" in the House, but Republicans are pretty safe in the Senate next year. They've only got 9 or so seats up this time.
Why would there be a bloodbath in the House? Do you think that many Democrats are going to defeated?
Republican incumbents in the House are pretty safe. They have passed the legislation we wanted.
That is why they are at risk. Also whether Obamacare should be repealed or whether it should be fixed could be the issue.
Republican incumbents in the House will be reelected. It is almost always a certainty.
Those on Obamcare don't vote Republican anyway.
Really? Then why'd Drumpf run on making it better?
Anything than what we had is better, including gutting it completely.
Horray!!!
Now we just need to get rid of 534 other members of Congress.
Low Energy Jeff Flake becomes the 5th GOP senator whose career was ended by his vote for Marco Rubio's amnesty bill. Nine to go.
Incumbent senators almost never lose re-election. Five of 14 GOPers to vote for Rubio's 2013 amnesty: GONE! But they'll never learn.
It's beginning to look like the Bannon Effect is going to kick in, and that 2018 will be the year we find out if the people really want what he and Trump are selling. Whatever that is.
And so far what good has that done? He only proves that Trump wants nothing to do with Rinos, and he is getting out of the way.and slams trump
I'm not sure they will stay home if they perceive the result would be a shift in their senator supporting a liberal agenda they really dislike. Flake was hardly liberal. He was a main street conservative. Fortunately for the dems, they appear to be running someone who is not of the Bernie persuasion.I have no doubt that Flake and Corker have decided not to run for reelection because they're worried about being primaried. That's not the real issue here.
Ward will almost certainly lose the general. Flake, if he ran again, would almost certainly win.
It is the only issue here. Opposition to Trumps agenda is now the kiss of political death for incumbent Republicans...that is far mord important than whether Dems get a pick up or not in Arizona. You need to think more strategically and less tactically.
You're going to lose some skirmishes on the way to laying claim to the battlefield. I'm not conceding Arizona...in all honesty I don't follow state level politics in any state other than my own. Trump is solidifying his power over the political fortunes of these political insiders...and that is more important than individual races.
You've got that flipped around. You're thinking tactically, not strategically. Ideological purity within the Republican Party is meaningless if they lose control.
There is a large portion of the Republican voting base that feels the same was as Flake and Corker. Those people aren't going to vote for Ward in Arizona, they're going to stay home.
That's the biggest issue with the way you guys regard Trump. You mistake a perfect storm for a tidal change.
I'm not sure they will stay home if they perceive the result would be a shift in their senator supporting a liberal agenda they really dislike. Flake was hardly liberal. He was a main street conservative. Fortunately for the dems, they appear to be running someone who is not of the Bernie persuasion.I have no doubt that Flake and Corker have decided not to run for reelection because they're worried about being primaried. That's not the real issue here.
Ward will almost certainly lose the general. Flake, if he ran again, would almost certainly win.
It is the only issue here. Opposition to Trumps agenda is now the kiss of political death for incumbent Republicans...that is far mord important than whether Dems get a pick up or not in Arizona. You need to think more strategically and less tactically.
You're going to lose some skirmishes on the way to laying claim to the battlefield. I'm not conceding Arizona...in all honesty I don't follow state level politics in any state other than my own. Trump is solidifying his power over the political fortunes of these political insiders...and that is more important than individual races.
You've got that flipped around. You're thinking tactically, not strategically. Ideological purity within the Republican Party is meaningless if they lose control.
There is a large portion of the Republican voting base that feels the same was as Flake and Corker. Those people aren't going to vote for Ward in Arizona, they're going to stay home.
That's the biggest issue with the way you guys regard Trump. You mistake a perfect storm for a tidal change.
Rep. Kyrsten Sinema enters Senate race, hoping to unseat Jeff Flake
Two republican senators came out today blasting their own party’s president’s honesty. That’s unprecedented.He really roasted Trump to the Senate today. Pretty powerful speech, imo.
They're never Trumpers. They've been doing this for forever. Fuck them. Good riddance.
Democrats are going down in the next election. They don't have to resign.
Nope 2018 is going to be a bloodbath for Republicans.
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There might be a "bloodbath" in the House, but Republicans are pretty safe in the Senate next year. They've only got 9 or so seats up this time.
Why would there be a bloodbath in the House? Do you think that many Democrats are going to defeated?
Republican incumbents in the House are pretty safe. They have passed the legislation we wanted.
That is why they are at risk. Also whether Obamacare should be repealed or whether it should be fixed could be the issue.
Republican incumbents in the House will be reelected. It is almost always a certainty.
Those on Obamcare don't vote Republican anyway.
Right now, on all 3 cable news channels, Sen. Jeff Flake is announcing that he will not run again for office.
Apparently, he's not happy about serving in a screwed up Congress under a president with no leadership qualities. And, he's not just talking about Trump, he's talking about the whole government, from the backbiting and fighting in Congress between the members all the way up to Trump and the way he's doing things.
He really doesn't sound happy about the way Congress and the government has divided itself.
Arizona's Jeff Flake announces he will not seek re-election to U.S. Senate
The bombshell, which Flake, R-Ariz., intended to detail Tuesday afternoon on the Senate floor, will further roil Republican hopes of keeping the party's 52-seat Senate majority in the midterm elections of Trump's first term, when the president's party historically loses seats in Congress.
It also likely will upend the race for Flake's seat.
Flake, one of the Senate's more prominent critics of President Donald Trump, has been struggling in the polls.
He told The Arizona Republic ahead of his announcement that he has become convinced "there may not be a place for a Republican like me in the current Republican climate or the current Republican Party."
'Here's the bottom line ...'
Flake said he has not "soured on the Senate" and loves the institution, but that as a traditional, libertarian-leaning conservative Republican he is out of step with today's Trump-dominated GOP.
"This spell will pass, but not by next year," Flake said.
Among Republican primary voters, there's overwhelming support for Trump's positions and "behavior," Flake said, and one of their top concerns is whether a candidate is with the president or against him. While Flake said he is with Trump on some issues, on other issues he is not. And Trump definitely views him as a foe, having denounced Flake publicly and called him "toxic" on Twitter.
"Here's the bottom line: The path that I would have to travel to get the Republican nomination is a path I'm not willing to take, and that I can't in good conscience take," Flake told The Republic in a telephone interview. "It would require me to believe in positions I don't hold on such issues as trade and immigration and it would require me to condone behavior that I cannot condone."
No, he just knows he'll be slaughtered in any election against the person bannon runs against him. He wasn't a conservative anyway so the repubs won't be missing him.
