BREAKING: Supreme Court rules Trump is entitled to some immunity in Jan. 6 case

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And how would you propose to do this?

Simple, nominate 4 judges and have Kamala confirm all 5 with the tiebreaker. Write nice checks to any GOPers on the fence.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No it has not. That's literally why the SCOTUS just had to rule on it.

Maybe someone else will try to answer.

The idea of presidential immunity gained significant media attention in recent years, as former officials from the Trump administration were subpoenaed in investigations by Congress. But, this legal doctrine dates back to the 1860s.

The idea is not new.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Gently disagree. It's a constitutional issue that SCOTUS addressed. The constitution gives the elected representatives of the people the ONLY power to prosecute a President in his official duties. The House indicts; the Senate convicts and removes from office.

This ruling protects Bill Clinton from prosecution for Black Hawk down, protects George W. Bush from prosecution for invading Afghanistan and Iraq, protects Obama from prosecution for sending pallets of cash to Iran, protects Biden from prosecution for allowing an invasion into our country, etc. etc. etc.

It requires the lower courts to adjudicate whether a Presidential act is official or private. If they get it wrong it can still eventually be for the high court to decide but it should at face value stop most of this nonsense going on.

President Trump was quite happy with the ruling by the way.

Gently disagree. It's a constitutional issue that SCOTUS addressed. The constitution gives the elected representatives of the people the ONLY power to prosecute a President in his official duties. The House indicts; the Senate convicts and removes from office.

This ruling protects Bill Clinton from prosecution for Black Hawk down, protects George W. Bush from prosecution for invading Afghanistan and Iraq, protects Obama from prosecution for sending pallets of cash to Iran, protects Biden from prosecution for allowing an invasion into our country, etc. etc. etc.

It requires the lower courts to adjudicate whether a Presidential act is official or private. If they get it wrong it can still eventually be for the high court to decide but it should at face value stop most of this nonsense going on.

President Trump was quite happy with the ruling by the way.

The tenth amendment is at play here

Tenth Amendment​

Tenth Amendment Explained


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

[two_iron]

SCOTUS gives three tiers:

- Core constitutional acts (absolute immunity)

- Official acts (presumptive immunity)

- Unofficial acts (no immunity)

The lower courts can muddle through that mess over the course of months and in the meantime Trump becomes POTUS again.

You're schooling the equivalent of diseased livestock.

But good on you for playing along and pretending they matter.

 

[Mac1958]

I wonder why this was not a big deal until the Unified Reich showed up.

Oh well. If he wins, it'll be interesting to see how much more he gets away with.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Trump will be tried and convicted.

And then the cries of "he is just getting even" will rain down...I can understand folks for wanting to stop trump at any cost but only as long as they don't understand or realize what "any cost" really means, and for the ones who do understand what it means, shame on you!

that said, and with apologies to my friends here on the right, I don't think trump is winning this election.

 

[candycorn]

That's life. The framers of the US Constitution argued about meanings during the drafting, and after the ratification.

One would hope the democrats learn from this and close ranks behind Biden.

I won’t hold my breath on that.

 

[candycorn]

I wonder why this was not a big deal until the Unified Reich showed up.

Oh well. If he wins, it'll be interesting to see how much more he gets away with.

Sky’s the limit

 

[22lcidw]

Neither are the ghost of our founding fathers.

Getting Trump was purely political. And the fact that the Supreme Court had to get involved tells us how corrupted politics is and especially the Progressive Socialists. It's now pure spin, lies and cover stories. The Progs were on a roll in near everything as they kept ratching up the pressure on our nation. All of the stealth destruction they have done that cause pain and suffering for so many with the riots alone is demonic. When they came into the sunlight with Joe and the charges against Trump, we found out that the people doing so or involved are not that good.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The idea that a president has any sort of immunity exists nowhere. The justices just created it out of nothing.

Massive hypocrisy all around.

You brought up abortion now you're moving away. Your surrender is not accepted.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Neither are the ghost of our founding fathers.

You didn't think shit through did you? It's not nice or a good thing to weaponized the justice system. It's going to bite you in the ass next year.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The county has had a no good, really fucking aweful, bad week

Singular? which county?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If he is defeated. the trials will continue with plenty of non-official and non-core constitutional exceptions to convict him in the other three trials.

If he wins, the GA case of false electors, voter suppression, will continue when he leaves office.

 

[Smokin' OP]

9-141.000. Foreign Murder of United States Nationals (18 U.S.C. § 1119)

www.justice.gov

WTF?

Al-Awlaki wasn't murdered, he was in a war zone and not part of any relief efforts in Yemen.


It is a criminal offense under this section for a U.S. national to murder another U.S. national outside the United States, if the murder occurred within the jurisdiction of a foreign country.

A foreign national is: An individual who is: (1) not a citizen of the United States and (2) not lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(20)); or. A foreign principal, as defined in 22 U.S.C.


Politico
https://www.politico.com › under-the-radar › 2012/11
Nov 28, 2012 — About six months before alleged Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula leader Anwar Al-Awlaki was killed in a drone strike in Yemen last year, ...

None of this has anything to do with Russia. Stay on topic.

Are they not, part of the world?

 

[WorldWatcher]

The constitution grants the president powers the rest of us do not enjoy.... official duty is all the court said today... this ends Smith's case

Fake electors, pressuring states, riots on the capital, failure to surrender classified documents after leaving office - are not official duties.

or in the least it pushes it way past the election when we will have new leadership at the DOJ...
Its over....

Thank you for being honest about what this was all about. Pushing it past the election so the people can't make an informed decision.

Good show.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Biden lovers should know all about that....

You'd have to ask them.

This cycle I voted for Haley.

WW

 

[Blisterfinger]

Neither are the ghost of our founding fathers.

It's a great day for democracy! Thank God for Trump and his Supreme Court selections, not always perfect but we are a democracy because of trump. Biden and the demo fascists going down in flames

 

[Foxfyre]

The tenth amendment is at play here

Tenth Amendment​

Tenth Amendment Explained


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The Constitution gives authority to Congress (Article I, Section 2) to discipline a President in the President's official duties or failure to do his official duty and nobody else. You can't get around that with the 10th Amendment.

 

[pknopp]

WTF?

Al-Awlaki wasn't murdered, he was in a war zone and not part of any relief efforts in Yemen.


It is a criminal offense under this section for a U.S. national to murder another U.S. national outside the United States, if the murder occurred within the jurisdiction of a foreign country.

A foreign national is: An individual who is: (1) not a citizen of the United States and (2) not lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(20)); or. A foreign principal, as defined in 22 U.S.C.

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Politico
https://www.politico.com › under-the-radar › 2012/11
Nov 28, 2012 — About six months before alleged Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula leader Anwar Al-Awlaki was killed in a drone strike in Yemen last year, ...


Are they not, part of the world?

Trump supporters support his illegal actions and you do the same for Obama. Another example of the two sides not really being any different.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The Constitution gives authority to Congress to discipline a President and nobody else. You can't get around that with the 10th Amendment.

No it doesn't. As a matter of it specifically says that someone removed from office is open for indictment and trial. Which of course is a criminal prosecution in court.

WW